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Laverna – A Markdown note-taking app focused on privacy
- pacomerh 9y agoI'm very happy with Bear notes. Will give this a shot though.
- scribu 9y agoWould be interesting to do a comparison with Standard Notes, which seems to offer the same features.
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- zachlatta 9y agoI've given up on using any sort of branded app for notetaking. At best it's open source and the maintainers will lose interest in a few years. When you write things down, you're investing in your future. It's silly to use software that isn't making that same investment. After trying Evernote, wikis, org-mode, and essentially everything else I could find, I gave up and tried building my own system for notes. Plain timestamped markdown files linked together. Edited with vim and a few bash scripts, rendered with a custom deployment of Gollum. All in a git repo. It's... wonderful. Surprisingly easy. Fast. If there's a feature I wish it had, I can write a quick bash script to implement it. If Gollum stops being maintained, I can use whatever the next best markdown renderer is. Markdown isn't going away anytime soon. It's liberating to be in control. I find myself more eager to write things down. I'm surprised more people don't do the same. Edit: here's what my system looks like https://imgur.com/a/nGplj https://imgur.com/a/nGplj
- rolandog 9y agoI've been window shopping for something similar to Tomboy notes. This seems like a nice compromise. Thanks for sharing.
- endlessvoid94 9y agoHow do you create/edit notes on mobile?
- zachlatta 9y agoApologies for the poor Imgur formatting, but like this: https://imgur.com/a/nGplj https://imgur.com/a/nGplj I use a Mosh client for iOS called Blink to connect to a tmux session on my personal server. I do the same thing to edit on desktop, just from a larger screen.
- bitexploder 9y agoOrg mode in a git repo. Easy enough. Don't need a fussy rendering step. Generate a PDF or HTML from org. Regardless of how you do it -- plain text will endure and using git makes it really simple. Markdown can never "go away" and neither can org files. They are inherently readable with cat and the naked eye. If I can't legibly read it with cat / less it will eventually leave me disappointed in some way.
- zachlatta 9y agoorg-mode's format sucks, is only partially supported outside of Emacs, and is on its way out. org-mode is only any good if you're using the full power of it (tasks, agenda, etc), which is buying into a system that's soon going away.
- dasyatidprime 9y agoHow do you mean “on its way out”? Do you just mean that people searching for new organizational software nowadays are decreasingly likely to choose it?
- znpy 9y agoVery cool! Just wanted to say that the nodes app in nextcloud is very handy too! Actually, if Nextcloud could embed this Laverna somehow... that would be awesome.
- tardygrad 9y agoI'm going to give this a go. Self hosted Dokuwiki has been my note taking tool of choice, usable on multiple devices, easy to backup, easy to export notes but markdown sounds good. Is it possible to share notes or make notes public?
- yeasayer 9y agoOne of the biggest use cases of Evernote for me – OCR notes with search. All my important checks, slips and papers are going there. It's seems that Laverna doesn't have this feature. So it's not an alternative for me.
- lars_francke 9y agoThis is what I'm missing from all alternatives. I do the same as you: Scan everything I receive. I rarely use it to take notes. OneNote is the only one that I think that has this as well.
- 5_minutes 9y agoSame here, its just awesome to scan all your stuff and being able to retrieve it
- paulsutter 9y agoWhat I really really want is a tool that keeps notes in github, therefore an open/standard/robust way to do offline, merge changes, resolve conflicts. I've lost so much data from Evernote's atrocious conflict resolution that it's my central concern. I don't see any mention of that here. Use case: edit notes on a plane on laptop, edit notes on phone after landing, sometime later use laptop again and zap.
- ocdtrekkie 9y agoPresumably if you just designed your note app to work with any generic Git, you could interchangably use GitHub or something selfhosted.
- mgiannopoulos 9y agoThis came up on Product Hunt today as well >> Turtl lets you take notes, bookmark websites, and store documents for sensitive projects. From sharing passwords with your coworkers to tracking research on an article you're writing, Turtl keeps it all safe from everyone but you and those you share with. < https://turtlapp.com/download/ https://turtlapp.com/download/
- Brajeshwar 9y ago“laverna.app” can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer. https://www.dropbox.com/s/gzmd36qe58h0wnw/Screenshot%202017-08-20%2010.50.41.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/gzmd36qe58h0wnw/Screenshot%202017-...
- mikerathbun 9y agoRight-click and select Open.
- ernsheong 9y agoIt doesn't do web clippings though. Incidentally, I am building https://pagedash.com https://pagedash.com to clip web pages more accurately, exactly as you saw it (via a browser extension)! Hope this helps someone.
- reitanqild 9y agoIs it similar to scrapbook on Firefox? (Scrapbook was one of the winners of the extension competions when Firefox introduces extensions IIRC. Still worked last I tried.)
- ernsheong 9y agoThanks for pointing this out. I'll need to check out what Scrapbook is all about :) Edit: Okay, looks similar. Except that PageDash lives on the cloud. And hopefully with that comes multi-device support in the future. And also hopefully a much better UI.
- someone13 9y agoYour sign up JS is broken - I just tried to enter my email and got a "TypeError: undefined has no properties". Looks like a cool project, though - I've wanted something like that for a while :-) (oh, and I'm using FF 55 on Linux)
- ernsheong 9y agoMy bad. I'll take a look at this soon! Update: Fixed the FF bug. Many thanks for taking the time to report! :)
- mikerathbun 9y agoI am constantly looking for a good notes app. I have been a paying Evernote user for years and I really like it. The only problem is the formatting. I take a lot of pride in formatting my notes and like it to look a certain way depending on the content. Markdown is definitely the way I want to go which Evernote has promised in the past but still hasn't delivered. That said note of the buttons on Laverna seem to work on my Mac. Can't sign into DropBox and can't create a notebook. Oh well.
- xeo84 9y agoHave you tried Bear Notes? I switched from Evernote last year and made my life easier.
- mikerathbun 9y agoLooks really nice, but I need my notes app to run on Windows for work. That’s one reason I use Evernote. It is so close for me, but falls short with note creation.
- timrichard 9y agoI'm also a heavy Evernote user, but have been exasperated by their Rich Text implementation for input. I currently use Marxico on both the Mac and PC. Yearly subscription, but it's modest. I journal everything as I develop, and it automatically syncs the output to Evernote. I start out by adding metadata like @(notebook)[tag1,tag2] so that my notes find their way into the right part of my Evernote structure. The editor is based on Ace I think, so Vim keys work well. I can paste in screenshots I take, and even embed animated gifs of things happening at runtime or in my IDE. Markdown support is great, which is good because I tend to structure thoughts in nested lists a lot. This has replaced the need for mindmaps for me, and is a lot quicker to outline thoughts, plans and tasks. Inline source code blocks look great. I struggled for a while to put up with Evernote Rich Text, and tried Spacemacs for a month or two with Org mode. Hated configuring it, mostly, although I do miss the ability to fold selected parts of my list hierarchies. Org mode did that pretty well. Marxico is the most comfortable solution I've found so far - at least for a Vim user. The tradeoffs are the usual closed source data liberation issue ones, but I'm looking into ways of getting things out of Evernote in bulk for backup.
- chairmanwow 9y agoUsing the online editor on Android with Firefox is essentially unusable. It feels almost like Laverna is trying to do autocorrect at the same time as my keyboard. Characters appear and disappear as I type which makes for a really confusing UX.
- bunkydoo 9y agoI'm still using paper over here, nothing seems to do it for me on the computer. Paper is great, and paper is king.
- virmundi 9y agoI'm working on that too. Paper is king. Unfortunately my paper king has multiple fiefdoms strewn throughout my house and office. Sadly his territory span not just space, but time. There are unsearchable notes in books that cover years. I need to move the kingdom into the digital age.
- philipps 9y agoI also love paper (and notebooks and pens) but am in the same situation. The new iPad Pro + Pencil look like a real alternative. I like the idea of having all my notes stored digitally especially if I can get OCR to work reasonably well.
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- TheGRS 9y agoMuch like the wicked witch of the west though, the paper king is easily destroyed by water.
- yborg 9y agoOr fire. Or wind. Good earth resistance, +1 if clay coat.
- imtringued 9y agoOr by my own sweaty hands.
- rileytg 9y agowhile the demo worked well, under the hood looks like a somewhat aging codebase
- tandav 9y agoI use plain .md files in a github "Notes" repo. I even don't render it, just using Material Theme for sublime text. Screenshot: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5549677/29492466-08a42706-8585-11e7-8dae-b95555280b0e.png https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5549677/29492466-0...
- tomerbd 9y agoI found google keep to be the best for small notes without too much categorization, and google spreadsheet to be the best for larger scoped note taking due to the tabs.
- GordonS 9y agoI hit the maximum character limit in Keep notes from time to time. Quite annoying :/
- tomerbd 9y agoyes also no history in google keep so i keep it for quick notes, it's really for quick notes and not more than that, like i'm in a meeting so i do very quick summaries there. but permanent notes instead of any onenote, tomnote whatever I just use google spreadsheet, I find it very useful, because I like have a single spreadsheet for one big topic (like one spreadsheet for the company I work at) and then I separate for subsheets for subtopics, I find this method to be perfect! subsheets could be: 1. useful urls 2. useful commands 3. administration 4. high level overview etc.
- yborg 9y agoApart from having sync capability (via Dropbox) this in almost no way shape or form replicates the current capabilities of Evernote. A more accurate title would be "Laverna: An open source note-taking application." This of course will not generate many clicks, since there are dozens of things like this, many of them better-looking and more mature.
- binaryanomaly 9y agoExactly what I thought. Nowhere near evernote and capabilities other note taking apps offer. The title is misleading.
- echion 9y agoWhat's on your shortlist of "more mature [with same or more functionality]" ones?
- yborg 9y agoSimplenote would be the canonical example. BoostNote, which I think was an earlier HN item. QOwnNotes, if you like ownCloud. Turtl, if you like eliding the silent 'e' Honorable Mention Notational Velocity (Mac-only) I moved to Quiver from Evernote, also Mac-only. The solo dev moved to Berlin a little over a year ago, and I would describe the app as minimally supported at this point. I've been at this a long time, and have run the gamut from Evernote to tagged text files managed in Emacs with some custom macros, long before org-mode was even a gleam in the eye of Carsten Dominik. So I've seen them all, and as noted by many other folks, the rules boil down to one - must have a portable base storage format (preferably Plain Old Text) and/or solid import and export to some such portable storage format. If it's commercial software, pricing will get stupid and/or bug-ridden features that add bloat and that I don't want are added to justify said pricing; the product/company is sold to someone who will do the above; the product/company dies. If it's open source, more or less the same, with the additional stage of becoming closed/proprietary/commercial, which then reduces to the first case. I kind of assume at this point that I will be moving to a different platform every 4 years or so.
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- itaysk 9y agoThere are so many note taking apps and yet I still can't find one I like. My requirements are simple: - Markdown - cross platform with sync - tags I have settled on SimpleNote for now, but I'm not completely happy. It's mac app is low quality and doesn't have markdown, It's open source but they ignore most of the issues. Bear Notes looks cool but wasn't cross platform. I am still looking. If this thing had phone apps (I'm on iPhone) I'd give it a go.
- tomcam 9y agoGlad you like SimpleNote. How much time or money have you donated to it to get your desired feature set up to snuff?
- tertius 9y agoSimplenote takes donations? I thought Automattic bought it.
- itaysk 9y agoI will happily give money to software I like. SimpleNote is currently a compromise which I'm not completely happy with so I don't feel the need to donate. If it answered all my needs, or at least didn't ignore it's users, I'd buy it.
- leemailll 9y agoTry Nvalt on Mac + 1writer on iOS
- PascalW 9y agoI'm using Quiver [1] for this since some time and really love it. It's like the Evernote client but supports Markdown. Unfortunately the client is proprietary, but the note format is open. 3rd party clients also exist, like an Android app. [1] http://happenapps.com/ http://happenapps.com/
- itaysk 9y agoIt does look nice, but Apple world only... I'm currently with mac and iPhone, but as a principle I insist that my note taking app will be as cross platform as possible. This is not for practical reason, but for trust reasons. I don't think that every app should be completely cross platform, but notes, at least for me, are essential for the long time, and I don't know on which ecosystem I'll be a few years from now. So picking a platform that at least tries to be cross platform today is the best thing I can do to ensure it'll work for the long run.
- devinmcgloin 9y agoI've been using Notion (https://www.notion.so https://www.notion.so) for a while and have nothing but good things to say. - It's incredibly flexible. You can model Trello Task Boards in the same interface as writing or making reference notes. - They've got a great desktop client and everything syncs offline. - Latex Support - Programmable Templates - Plus there seems to be pretty neat people behind it I switched to it 8 months ago or so and haven't really looked back.
- loomer 9y ago>Laverna for android is coming soon I'd probably start using it right now if it was already available for Android.
- nishs 9y agoThe macOS and web application don't look like the screenshot on the landing page. Is there a theme that needs to be configured separately?
- 5_minutes 9y agoI love Evernote for its ocr capabilities, so I can go paperless. But it seems this is not implemented here.
- 4010dell 9y agoI like it. Better than evernote. evernote was like trying to win a marathon running backwards.
- anta40 9y agoI still use Evernote on my Android phone (Galaxy Note 4), mainly because of handwriting support. For simplistic notes, well Google Keep is enough. Still looking for alternatives :)
- edanm 9y agoI'd really love a good Evernote alternative, but the one feature that tends not to exist is full page bookmarking / web clipping. I want to be able to clip a full page easily into the program, which will also save a copy of whatever article I happen to be reading. I really wouldn't mind (and would even love) to roll my own notes system with vim/etc. But without full page clipping, it would be a problem. Another good thing about Evernote is the easy ability to mix in images, documents, and text. The reasons I want to leave Evernote, btw, is: 1. I worry about their future and would rather a more open solution. 2. Their software, at least on Mac, really, really sucks. It's slow, and has tons of incredibly ridiculos bugs that have been open for a long time. E.g. when typing in a tag, if there's a dash, it will cause a problem with the autocompletion. For someone who uses the tags a lot and has a whole system based on them, having dashes cause a problem is a big deal, and the fact that it hasn't been fixed in ~ a year makes me really question their priorities.
- tolien 9y agoThe biggest reason for point 1 is point 2, IMO. Their software pretty universally sucks - if it was just Mac it would be possible (although not reasonable) to argue that MacOS was an afterthought but IME it's terrible on Windows and iOS too and they just don't seem to care. I've had weird syncing bugs where the content of one note appears in place of another's, or the note's content has had all the formatting ripped out so everything is on one line, which mostly fix themselves if you clear the app's cache. They keep saying they've fixed it in release notes but the issue keeps happening, and if you raise a support ticket (I've got Evernote Premium with supposedly prioritised support) you'll get useless responses that suggest they haven't properly read your ticket, days after you opened the ticket in the first place. It's terrible, and I'd really like to stop giving them money, but I've struggled to find an alternative (tried OneNote and stopped for a reason I can't recall right now, plus the now-dead Vesper and Simplenote) despite a long line of comments below suggesting that emacs org-mode or papyrus and carrier pigeon is a viable alternative.
- pizzapill 9y ago100 % agree with everything you said. There isn't even a app on Linux and Evernotes web interface is the worst I've ever used. I _overwrite_ important notes with bs on a regular basis because the Ajax took two minutes to load and writes to something offscreen. But the Webclipper works most of the time. Laverna does not even have a Browser Plugin.
- ziotom78 9y agoI used to use org-mode to take down notes when I attended seminars or meetings (I'm an astrophysicist). However, a feature I missed was the ability to quickly take photos to insert into my notes, in order to capture slides or calculations/diagrams done on the blackboard. Thus, last year I subscribed to Evernote (which provides both features), and I must say that I am extremely satisfied. Moreover, Evernote's integration with Firefox and Android allows me to quickly save web pages for later reading (this might be possible with org-mode, but not as handy as with Evernote, which just require one tap.) I think that Laverna is interesting for users like me: it provides a web app with a nice interface, it implements the first feature I need (easy photo taking), and if really an Android app is on the way, integration with Android services might allow to save web pages is Laverna using one tap like Evernote.
- trampi 9y agoJust FYI, more than one year has passed since the last release. The commit frequency has declined significantly. I use it, but I am not sure if I would recommend it in its current state. It does it's job and I like it, but the future is uncertain.
- talklittle 9y agoA bit misleading. The maintainers have been working on large experimental features like a self-hosted "signaling server" which helps sync notes without storing any note data on it, and without relying on third-party hosting like Dropbox [1]. Also if you look at the dev branch [2], they have been making sweeping changes to the codebase; most recently it appears they have been removing "old" JavaScript libraries like Bower, presumably to move everything to an NPM setup. [1]: https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/778 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/778 [2]: https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/commits/dev https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/commits/dev
- pookeh 9y agoI have been using Trello. To save a screenshot, I Ctrl+Cmd+Shift+4 the screen, and paste directly into a card. It's fast.
- jusujusu 9y agoTitle is making me post this: http://elephant.mine.nu http://elephant.mine.nu Cons: no mobile app, no OCR for docs, no web clipper
- ehudla 9y agoThe two must haves for me are integration with org mode (as was mentioned in thread) and with Zotero.
- barking 9y agoWhat are the main concerns people have about using evernote, data protection, the company going out of business, the code being closed and proprietary? I can understand all those but sometimes it also feels like everyone (me included) expects every software to be free now. I have a free evernote account and don't use it very much but I find it handy for some things such as cooking recipes and walking maps. I think it would also be great for Dave Allen's GTD technique if I could ever be disciplined enough. If evernote removed the free tier I think I would pay up, the pricing for the personal plans is very reasonable. I'd probably make more use of it too. Humans don't tend to value free stuff. For someone like me I think they'd have had a better chance of turning me into a paying customer if their model was an initial free period followed by having to pay up. But I will never pay up if I can get away with paying nothing.
- bharani_m 9y agoI run a minimal alternative to Evernote called EmailThis [1]. You can add the bookmarklet or browser extension. It will let you save complete articles and webpages to your email inbox. If it cannot extract useful text, EmailThis will save the page as a PDF and send it as an attachment. No need to install apps or login to other 3rd party services. [1] https://www.emailthis.me https://www.emailthis.me
- vmateixeira 9y agoYou lost me with your privacy policy
- bharani_m 9y agoCan you tell me why it is bad? I am actually very concerned with the privacy of the app's users. The only communications I send to your email address are the initial onboarding emails and the saved bookmarks. No drip messages, no promotional emails etc. I guess I need to convey that better in the privacy policy. I'd appreciate any links/resources that can help me draft a better privacy policy.
- CodeWriter23 9y agoObviously I can't speak for @vmateixeira, but this seems pretty bad to me. > We may share generic aggregated demographic information not linked to any personal identification information regarding visitors and users with our business partners, trusted affiliates and advertisers for the purposes outlined above. Especially considering the numerous examples of "anonymous" datasets being de-anonymized.
- ricardobeat 9y agoThat would preclude using things like Google Analytics on the website, it's not bad per se.
- tedunangst 9y agoI think the key word is aggregated.
- lewisl9029 9y agoIt's really cool to see another app using remoteStorage for sync! I built Toc Messenger a few years ago on top of remoteStorage for sync as well, and it was a pleasure to work with (https://github.com/lewisl9029/toc https://github.com/lewisl9029/toc, the actual app is no longer functioning since I took down the seed server quite a while ago). Unfortunately, it seems like the technology hasn't gained much traction since I last worked with it. The only 2 hosts listed on their wiki that offer hosted remoteStorage are the same that I saw two years ago: https://wiki.remotestorage.io/Servers https://wiki.remotestorage.io/Servers The other alternative sync method offered is Dropbox, and if it's also using the remoteStorage library as the interface as I'm assuming, it would have to depend on their Datastore API, which has been deprecated for more than a year now AFAIK (https://blogs.dropbox.com/developers/2015/04/deprecating-the-sync-and-datastore-apis/ https://blogs.dropbox.com/developers/2015/04/deprecating-the...). Is that aspect of the app still functional? If anyone knows any other user-provided data storage APIs like Dropbox Datastore or remoteStorage that's more actively developed and supported, I'd love to hear about them. The concept of apps built on user-provided and user-controlled data-sources, envisioned by projects like remoteStorage and Solid (https://solid.mit.edu/ https://solid.mit.edu/), has always been immensely appealing to me. If users truly controlled their data, and only granted apps access to the data they need to function (instead of depending on each individual app to host user data in their own locked-off silos), then switching to a different app would be a simple matter of granting another app access to the same pieces of data. Lock-in would no longer be a thing! Imagine that! We could have a healthy and highly competitive app ecosystem where users choose apps by their own merit instead of by the size of their moat built on nothing but network effects. Newcomers could unseat incumbents by simply providing a better product that users want to switch to. Like a true free-market meritocracy! Sadly, this is a distant dream because both newcomers and incumbents today realize the massive competitive advantage lock-in and network effects afford them. Incumbents will never give up their moat and allow the possibility of interop without a fight, and newcomers all end up racing to build up their own walled-off data silos because they have ambitions to become an incumbent enjoying a moat of their own one day. Even products that are built on top of open protocols and allow non-trivial interop tend to eventually go down the path of embrace, extend, extinguish, once they reach any significant scale. I'm starting to think strong legislation around data-portability and ownership may be the only way a future like this could stand to exist, but the incumbents of today and their lobbying budgets will never let that happen.
- macawfish 9y agoFor notes, I use a text editor and Resilio Sync/Syncthing. It's great!
- gletard 9y agoCan you please describe this setup ?
- macawfish 9y agoYes, I have a folder called "pocket-cloud". Using syncthing, this folder is synced between my phone, laptop and a server at my house. Whenever I add or modify a file on any of those devices, it automatically syncs to the others. Because there are three devices, it's very uncommon to miss updates. If my laptop or phone are asleep, the server picks up the changes and passes them on. Did I mention? The devices don't even need to be connected to the internet! They only need to be on the same LAN! I have other synced folders, including PDFs, music and phone pictures/videos. My girlfriend and I have a Resilio Sync folder that we use to share stuff with each other. It works flawlessly and we don't even need the internet! Resilio Sync and Syncthing are amazing tools. If you have any capacity to fix bugs, I recommend using Syncthing (open source), so that you can potentially fix bugs :) It's becoming much more stable, but could always use the support!
- macawfish 9y agoAnother thing: I'm using Syncthing to back up my 50+ GB bitwig projects folder. It does automatic versioning in case something funny happens. This has actually saved my neck before.
- macawfish 9y agoOn a slightly unrelated note (the following is totally unnecessary for Sync/Syncthing): I forgot to mention that I'm also using tinc for a mostly p2p, mostly decentralized virtual private LAN... it's amazing! Like I said, it's not necessary to do this for Sync/Syncthing, but it really helps smooth the gap. I tinc installed on quite a few devices, which makes remote work really seamless and presumably quite secure as well. I'm extremely satisfied with tinc. It's another tool with a similar "beauty in its simplicity".
- nodomain 9y agoLast release 1 year ago... seems dead, right?
- devalnor 9y agoI'm happy with Inkdrop https://www.inkdrop.info/ https://www.inkdrop.info/
- trextrex 9y agoLast I checked Laverna, they had really serious issues with losing data after every update or so. I stopped using it after encountering one of these. Looks like a lot of these issues are still open: https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/547 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/547 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/683 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/683 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/678 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/678 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/675 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/675 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/770 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/770 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/747 https://github.com/Laverna/laverna/issues/747 Edit: Formatting
- dade_ 9y agoI recently tried it again, Laverna is very buggy and I just received an email from dropbox noting that the api they used is being deprecated. The app isn't really native, just a chromium window running a local web app. So if it needs to be mobile, I am using onenote, but have to use the web app in Linux, and search is useless on the web app. So for desktop only, I use Zim. Cross platform, lots of plugins, stores everything in a file system with markdown. I haven't been able to get SVG to render in the notes though, which would be awesome, then I could just edit my diagrams and pictures with Inkscape. I can read the notes on mobile devices as they are just in markdown, but a mobile app really is needed.
- dotancohen 9y agoI used to be a heavy Zim user, but the inability to store arbitrary text, such as code snippets, pushed me away. Does Zim now support Markdown as a storage format? If so then perhaps the issue of storing arbitrary text is resolved.
- dotancohen 9y agoHere is the relevant bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/946229 https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/946229
- dade_ 9y agoThe source view plugin is what I really like about it: http://zim-wiki.org/manual/Plugins/Source_View.html http://zim-wiki.org/manual/Plugins/Source_View.html The txt files are in markdown. For whatever reason though, they decided @ was a good choice for a tag and not #.
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- cannonedhamster 9y agoFor desktop only you should give Boostnote a look. It's got markdown support and has a "tabbed" note type of feature as well. It can do images, but they have to be links to pictures on the internet currently, though there is some thought to localized storage of images somewhere in the future. This is what I've personally settled on since there isn't really a good Evernote clone available.
- perilunar 9y agoI gave up on Evernote after experiencing syncing problems. Now I just use the default MacOS and iOS notes.app. Seems kind of boring but it actually works really well, and is nicely minimal. Also it’s free, pre-installed, no sync problems, and has web access via iCloud when I need it. But for the love of god, why did they make link colour orange instead of the default blue? And why can’t it be changed via preferences? They had one job…
- djhworld 9y agoorg-mode works well enough for me. It's a bit awkward at first and requires you to remember a lot of key combinations and things, but it does the job. It doesn't work so well across devices (especially mobile), so I tend to carry around a small notebook, and then when I'm back at my computer I type anything useful that I'd captured in my notebook into org mode. Sometimes I just take a picture of my notes in my notebook and then use the inlineimages feature to display the image inline, that works pretty well too although there's no OCR. It seems to work OK.
- omarish 9y agoThe encryption seems very insecure. I just tried turning on encryption and it revealed my password in the URL bar. And now each time I click on a new page, it shows my password in the URL bar. https://laverna.cc/app/?password=<password>&cloudStorage=0 https://laverna.cc/app/?password=<password>&cloudStorage=0
- kepano 9y agoRecently went through the process of evaluating every note taking tool I could find. Settled on TiddlyWiki which is slightly unintuitive at first but very well thought out once you get it customized to your needs. Fulfills most of the needs I see people requesting on this thread, i.e. flat file storage, syncable via Dropbox, markdown support, wiki structure.
- jasikpark 9y agoA ridiculously simple, but good notes app I've found is https://standardnotes.org https://standardnotes.org
- LiweiZ 9y agoNotes are data. We need ways to input and store it fully under user's control. And we need a much better way to get insight from our own notes.
- snez 9y agoLike what's wrong with the macOS Notes app?
- djhworld 9y agoFor me the biggest annoyance is its insistence of "helping" you by auto converting double quotes into smart quotes. Handy for nicely formatted prose, not so useful for code snippets.
- Skunkleton 9y agoWe have had this application for a long time. It is called a text editor or a word processor.
- flamtap 9y agoCreating notes is not the problem people are trying to solve. They're trying to make managing them easier.
- pacomerh 9y agoBear notes is free if you don't sync your devices and it supports markdown well. Very clean app.
- twodave 9y agoI tend to use Workflowy.com for anything hierarchical/simple/listy and then Trello for anything bigger. For instance, recently did some CTO interview screenings via phone. It was really easy to set up a Trello board with a card per candidate, drop them in the list matching their current position in the pipeline, attach a resume, recruiter notes, due dates etc. The interview itself I threw as a bulleted list into Workflowy and just crossed things off as they were covered. Took notes in notepad and uploaded to the Trello board at the end. Invited stake holders to view the board and sent out a daily email with progress. Interviewed 8 candidates this way in a total of about 10 hours, including all the time spent prepping and scoring and communicating with the hiring team.
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- krisives 9y agoDownload no thanks
- mavci 9y agoI exported my contents and I found my contents in plain text. I think exported contents should be encrypted too.
- Urbanxassassin 9y agoEveryone seems to mention Evernote and a few other solutions, but not many have mentioned Quip.