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What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old
by opdahl 9y ago
What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will be faster to just google "MS paint online free" and click the first link.
- ryan-allen 9y agoSure, if you want an adware addled version from one of the nefarious software downloads sites. Windows store is pretty simple, I'll just go there.
- opdahl 9y agoI mean something like [1]. That was literally the first result when I googled for mspaint online. I agree that if you are already downloading something you might as well download the real version from the Windows Store. [1]: http://www.jswidget.com/index-ipaint.html http://www.jswidget.com/index-ipaint.html
- otempomores 9y agoThats nice for you. Ever been to a sit where the store and the inet are no option? What then?
- sliken 9y agoThus yet reason for windows users to do Google searches and follow the instructions for what they find. Which if it's malware will be "download and run ...."
- wvenable 9y agoI think it's a good thing that Microsoft is reducing the size of their base OS and decoupling many of the apps from the Windows release cycle. It definitely does, however, feel like the end of a era.
- toast0 9y agoI'm not sure I would consider paint at the forefront of bloat, given that the base OS runs in the tens of gigs. I wouldn't be surprised if the default background image is larger than mspaint.exe. To say nothing of the store apps they auto install for you.
- wvenable 9y agoIt's not necessarily the size of the executable but rather that it's another executable the part of the build and test process of the base image. Pinball had to be removed for this sort of reason.
- merijnv 9y ago> Pinball had to be removed for this sort of reason. What? No. It was removed because it was a 32bit application written by a 3rd party and there was a hard to fix bug on 64bit windows that made it unplayable, so they dropped it. Source: Raymond Chen - https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=5803 https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=...
- garaetjjte 9y agoThat doesn't make sense, it could be run on WoW64. (even Visual Studio is 32-bit)
- anonymfus 9y agoVisual Studio is not a part of Windows. From Raymond Chen's answer to this question in the first comment to the same blog post: > That would have been even more work, because there was at the time no infrastructure in Setup for having 32-bit-only components. (And then automatically uninstalling it when WOW64 was disabled.)
- antod 9y agoI was under the impression pinball was removed because it was basically unsupportable and too had too much low level hacky graphics code to port across changes in the graphics subsystems. A shame though, it was a fun game.
- Schlaefer 9y agoThere will still be a Paint on every Windows machine, it's just Paint 3D instead of MS Paint from now on. And yes, Paint 3D allows to manipulate 2D images as MS Paint did.
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- schindlabua 9y agoYeah it's funny. Had they branded this ordeal "Paint gets an upgrade" instead of "Paint gets replaced" nobody would care.
- chrismorgan 9y agoThat was how it was branded—Paint 3D replaced mspaint.exe and it was positioned as an upgrade (Paint → Paint 3D). But there was substantial backlash when Paint 3D didn’t do all that mspaint.exe had done, and Microsoft caved to pressure and put mspaint.exe back a build or two later.
- perfectstorm 9y agoit's probably bundled with the OS as an Universal app. no need to install it separately.
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- aphextron 9y ago>What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. Completely agreed. This is basically Microsoft officially confirming that yes, MSPaint will be gone from Windows. Seems kind of senseless.
- keithnz 9y agojust use paint 3d, I just tried it out, seems a simple enough replacement for most simple editing tasks
- richev 9y agoIt's slower to start than Paint (on this laptop at least), and I can't see any way to import an image using a scanner using it (one of my main use cases for Paint). And why on earth does the menu icon in Paint 3D look like a folder icon?
- Zardoz84 9y agoIf MS can do something worse that MS Paint, is MS Paint 3d.
- intoverflow2 9y agoPaint 3D is actually a decent app. I think people are going to hate it by default though.
- orik 9y agoI've been provisioning some light VM's for legacy applications, and I'm using Windows For Legacy PC's. I was very upset when I realized there wasn't paint available (at leas the way I configured it).
- OkGoDoIt 9y agoAdditionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.
- taspeotis 9y agoI have downloaded free apps from the Windows Store without an account twice in the past month. These are both "desktop bridge" applications and not UWP apps so perhaps that is the difference. They were both free. I was preparing to sign in after clicking "Get" but ... it just worked.
- tonyedgecombe 9y agoI think it must have changed recently because you never used to be able to do that.
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- basch 9y agothis is a key people are ignoring. by moving the win32 mspaint from a native file on the filesystem to app-v/Centennial, it will be able to run on non-x86 hardware with emulation. in two years if Windows 10 S and Qualcomm dominate, having legacy apps available in the store will be a bonus not a burden. it will be similar to the OSX/Rosetta days.
- asveikau 9y agoThis is an artificial disinction made only by their confusing policy. There is no technical reason that Store has to be a gateway for emulating x86. And I am pretty sure for Windows RT they just compiled mspaint.exe for ARM.
- OkGoDoIt 9y agoAdditionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.
- Someone 9y agoThey could do what Apple does with Java: provide a stub tool that, when run, asks permission to download and install the real thing. That streamlines the "download and install" process. For Paint, I'm not sure that would be a big win, disk space-wise. mspaint.exe is around 6.5 MB on my system, but it may need additional files. However, they could do the same for Notepad (which probably isn't on the firing line yet because quite a few installers and updaters launch it by hard-coded path if users want to read release notes) and a few other tools and share the code for asking permission between those.
- proactivesvcs 9y agoMore pertinently, what happens when your grandma searches for "MS Paint" in the Store, other than needing an account? We all know the store is mostly trash and I have no doubt that people pushing their trash will leap on this chance to flood the search results for relevant keywords.
- carlosrg 9y agoFree applications can be downloaded without an account. I downloaded Spotify from the Store without being logged.
- dingo_bat 9y agoGrandma will first search paint in the start menu. And then she will open the highlighted entry labelled 'Paint 3D'. Then she will promptly close the abomination that appears on screen after 10 seconds.
- agumonkey 9y agoI was surprised to be enjoying using Paint at times, and as a keyboard fan, my only regret is that it's hard to pick colors (so actually painting gets slower). If MS had improved that part, I'd be using it on a regular basis.
- hiisukun 9y agoThis is precisely the reason I started using linux over windows - the "standard" tools available on almost every machine I would come across impressed me with their power and ease of use. Of course, while not all, most of these are from the gnu toolset - hence the occasional requests for gnu to be included in the default moniker. Because I infrequently use windows, it makes the presence of notepad, paint, and calc even more important. They are the tools I reach for first to accomplish simple tasks on Windows. Happy to hear Paint is staying.
- vog 9y ago> no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available So MS Paint is to Windows what Vi is to Unix? That is, no matter which editor you prefer, you'll always end up learning Vi, at least its basics. Because when in doubt, it may be the only viable editor that exists on your target system for sure.
- ygaf 9y agoTo clarify Paint's appeal; in addition to this list https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14845533 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14845533 , if you want to drag a square selection of something somewhere else, paint is probably still the goto app in 2017. If not, it has been for far too long. It's a failure on the part of other image apps. Paint hits a power/accessibility sweet spot.
- mannykannot 9y ago> It will be faster to just google "MS paint online free" and click the first link. I imagine that will be a common reaction, in which case Microsoft is adding one more to the channels of malware distribution.
- autokad 9y agopaint on windows 3.1 had more features. for example, it had the ability to erase one color to another color. I was a bit shocked when I opened paint in '98