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Google launches Hire, a new service for helping businesses recruit
- pasharayan 9y agoIt's easy to forget, but LinkedIn doesn't have rich resume data of candidates. With Hire, Google now gets rich resume & employee data - data, when coupled with search history, that can now be used to build better user profiles than before. Given this, "Hire" is (or could become) a trojan horse into replacing the network effect that LinkedIn has created.
- readhn 9y agoLinkedin doesnt have resumes?? Every linkedin profile is technically a resume. Dates, roles, qualifications are all there along with references.
- richardknop 9y agoThis. Everybody I know uses LinkedIn as their de-facto resume. It is their most up to date and complete CV with all roles, dates, recommendations, education information, skills, links to projects etc. LinkedIn definitely has very rich resume data.
- coredog64 9y agoMany companies have HR software that will even let you apply with your LinkedIn profile instead of a resume/filling out an app.
- pm90 9y agoLinkedIn actually rolled out a new feature "Easy Apply" or something where all you need to do is click an Apply button and it (presumably) sends your profile information to the job.
- pasharayan 9y agoMost resume's in non-technical fields (think management, banking, consulting, law etc) will have line items of deals/projects/responsibilities with rich information of how many people they've managed, the size of the deal, type of work etc. Most of the time people don't want to post this on LinkedIn as its too public of a space to go about bragging of your achievements at employer X. With this system, Google basically has a window into this more specific information.
- GCA10 9y agoIt's possible to load up a traditional resume with 5-10 pages of granular detail like this, but that's actually more awkward than helpful. Once a (shorter) resume establishes basic competence, employers generally want to do the next round of screening based on face-to-face contact. Asking the resume to do all the work will lead you to hire the very best resume writers, rather than the very best candidates. (Note that strong passive candidates, who already have good jobs, do not spend a lot of time polishing their resumes.) In non-technical fields, taking candidates through a face-to-face interview tends to be the best way of gauging grit, creativity, motivation, fit/compatibility, etc. That's especially true if the job specs are still fluid. In that case, a face-to-face interview lets both sides play around with the job description a bit. Google is supremely good at coming up with engineering solution to engineering problems, and its decision to build an applicant tracking system is encouraging. But Google also is a bit prone to taking the same approach, no matter what. If we're talking about the full sweep of candidate assessment, that isn't an engineering problem.
- thaumasiotes 9y ago"Resumé" appears to have a very special meaning to some people. Triplebyte specifically advertises a "no-resumes" process. But when I interviewed with them, the first thing they asked was "where have you worked before, and what did you do there?"
- ammon 9y agoWe (Triplebyte) don't ask engineers where they've worked until the end of the final interview. It's the last thing we ask (after all the technical evaluation and scoring is done). We regularly find and pass great programmers who are totally self-taught (and would have been screened out by any resume screen process). We ask about previous work at the end because we want statistics on who is applying to us. This lets us compare our process to more traditional credential screens (I write about this on our blog)
- thaumasiotes 9y agoI'm willing to believe that my memory is wrong and the question came later. But "resumes when we ask for them, which we guarantee we will do" is not quite the same policy as "no resumes".
- stale2002 9y agoLinkedin isn't optimized as a physical resume. If all of the important information doesn't fit on one page, in a way that is nicely organized and looks good, then it is not a resume. Nobody should ever print out their linkedin profile and then hand it to a recruiter.
- rb2k_ 9y agoLinkedIn has a PDF export and I see plenty of exported LinkedIn profiles when doing candidate interviews. Seems to work for a lot of people.
- stale2002 9y agoSure, and the PDF export produces a shitty resume. Yes, you CAN do it, and some people indeed do, but my opinion is that this is a poor idea because the service isn't optimized for it.
- bryanrasmussen 9y agoI think this is going to run into all sorts of potential problems in the EU.
- mistermann 9y ago> when coupled with search history, that can now be used to build better user profiles than before I won't be using Hire to host my resume that's for sure.
- halite 9y ago> when coupled with search history. Why is this ok?
- fixermark 9y agoTo better serve the user. "Based on your profile in Google Hire and your interest in SpaceX launches, you may be interested to know that a job opportunity is available: > NASA > Monte Carlo IV&V Analysis > Colcord, WV, [9] miles from your home, [15 minute] average commute time. (... the user has received this message because NASA has put out a job ad using hire and has specified that among the skillsets they're seeking is mathematics and engineering and among the interests that might be related are SpaceX, Blue Origin, United Launch Alliance, etc.)
- lostboys67 9y ago:-) I and a mate (ex mi/comms) received on linkedin the same pitch to apply for the Security Service (MI5). My Mate laughed it off and mentioned maybe if they didn't pay poverty wages.
- emodendroket 9y agoAssociating your resume/public profile and search history is sure to send a lot of people running the other way.
- halflings 9y ago> when coupled with search history, that can now be used to build better user profiles than before. Can we stop sharing unsubstantiated claims please? "No, Google Hire Won’t Share Your Search History With Employers" http://gizmodo.com/no-google-hire-won-t-share-your-search-history-with-em-1794396429 http://gizmodo.com/no-google-hire-won-t-share-your-search-hi...
- MarketingJason 9y ago>"Pricing is based on the size of your organization" Anyone have an idea of cost?
- lcmatt 9y ago$4 per user however every user on the domain needs to be licensed. (So a company with 300 G Suite users would be $14,400 a year)
- bamboo_7 9y ago"Google says Hire is meant to help businesses do away with manually tracking candidates. " Right, because there's no other software that exists to track applicants: http://www.softwareadvice.com/hr/applicant-tracking-software-comparison/ http://www.softwareadvice.com/hr/applicant-tracking-software...
- EduardoBautista 9y agoJust like Slack wasn’t the first to offer chat in a business setting or Google offering internet search, you don’t have to be first.
- w00bl3ywook 9y agoeh? where does Google say it's the ONLY software to track applicants?
- lettergram 9y agoI for one, will never use a Google product again. They level of creepiness and data they have on all their users is insane. I personally have switched to DuckDuckGo, Fastmail, FireFox (the mobile browser is awesome btw), and will replace Android as soon as a viable alternative is presented. Smooth sailing. The problem with Google, is they are building a repository for themselves, but also for government. Couple that with their willingness to kill products, and you'd have to be insane to trust their services.
- royabbink 9y agoI totally agree. But hiring talent is hard. I assume companies will grab every opportunity to hire the best people. Even if that means using Google.
- _pmf_ 9y agoCouple that with the fact that they do not offer anything that deserves the moniker "customer service".
- dragonwriter 9y agoI've gotten excellent customer service from them with Google Express. They certainly can offer good customer service where they choose to.
- Spivak 9y agoIf you pay them you get good customer service. Google Play, YouTube Red, Chromecast, Chromebook, Nexus, all have pretty good service.
- pgodzin 9y agoGoogle Fi as well
- DataWorker 9y agoI completely disagree. Recently did a factory reset on my nexus only to find out that without the password for the last sync'd google account, a throwaway I don't remember, it's bricked. I can report it stolen on the device page, can easily prove to google it's my device, but I can't reset or sell or do anything with the phone. Google's response after spending days trying to fix, and talking to different support people who had wildly different answers, the only viable answer was to give me the number for Lg and wish me good luck. Never have I paid so much for a product which is broken by its own design while being entirely unsupported by the vendor. Never will I purchase a google product or service and I will tell everyone I know to do the same.
- amelius 9y agoAnother service where "you" are the product.
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- oblio 9y agoThe interesting thing about this is that it's a very lucrative market and I can see Google pushing this as part of their search results. They've going to have the same kind of Google Shopping or whatever it's called "problem". If they put this thing front and forward they're going to drive a ton of people out of business just by their sheer visibility, as the Internet's front page.
- nealmueller 9y agoThis product is built by the team that joined through bebop, a $380M acquisition which came with Diane Greene, who now heads Google Cloud (Chief of Cloud), and Bogomil Balkansky who now heads Hired (VP). https://venturebeat.com/2016/01/04/google-paid-380m-to-buy-bebop-executive-diane-greene-donating-her-148m-share/ https://venturebeat.com/2016/01/04/google-paid-380m-to-buy-b...
- derwiki 9y agoSmall clarification in case it confused anyone else: Bogomil Balkansky heads the OP Google product, `Hire`, not the unrelated recruiting company `Hired`.
- seangrogg 9y agoThanks for the clarity. I was legit confused for a second there.
- nealmueller 9y agoThanks!
- Androider 9y agoI was just about to select a recruitment management service. Both Lever and Greenhouse has "call us" pricing, and sadly Google Hire follows the same trend. Only Workable has a clear pricing page, which gives them a big plus in my book. Since we're on G Suite, Hire could be a natural fit but the requirement to book a demo (and the accompanying upside-down shaking to see how much money falls out of our pockets) is a big turn-off. Would love to hear experiences from someone who has for example tried both Workable and Lever.
- nsp 9y agoWe've tried both greenhouse and lever, using greenhouse now, both were in the $300-$500/mo for the company, no limits on team size or number of job listings as far as I can remember. Honestly I was expecting much more for call us pricing. (We're a 50 person company, were probably ~35 when we started using applicant tracking systems)
- skuhn 9y agoStay away from Lever. It's a slick web application along the lines of the fanciness of Asana's interface. What it isn't is a sane applicant tracking system. It doesn't reliably notify you when candidates apply. It supports virtually zero job board integrations. It very much wants you to adapt to it, with very little support for the other way around. The interface is over-complicated to the point of being unusable for anyone who isn't committed to spending hours a week in it. I have never used an ATS that I actually liked, but the failings of Lever make it pretty special in terms of ATS hatred. It isn't particularly expensive though, despite their opaque pricing. Most ATSes seem to price ~10 open reqs around $300/mo or so. Where the real expense comes in is usually the job board listing fees -- but since Lever barely supports any job boards, you don't have to worry about that!
- Lery1934 9y agoAll true. And to be honest I have always been very turned off by their boastful "We only hire 50/50 Male/Female developer team." It's so in your face, it's like "why not hire the best person for the job?" Or when I see their internal job ads here, its like "Gee, I wonder if this is for a Male engineering role or a Female engineering role," or "Hope they didn't hire a bunch of dudes last week." So for a variety of reasons I am an anti-advocate for Lever; I will never have business with them and I have successfully pointed several companies to better ATS.
- endorphone 9y agoA question I've always wondered -- If Google, or an employee at Google, used ML (or just classic techniques) to analyze the enormous, enormous troves of trojan horse data they have on the employees of virtually every organization across the globe, would it be illegal if they traded on that data? They could surely accurately call virtually any trend before anyone. They could see when morale at a firm drops, when hours drop, when employees start trying to get jobs elsewhere, etc. It is simply shocking the amount of data they have coalesced. And while I generally have a good opinion on them, a product like this just seems like a step too far and risks threatening the trust users have in them.
- mseebach 9y agoIANAL, but I think they would possibly be in breach of their own privacy policy: > How we use information we collect > We use the information we collect from all of our services to provide, maintain, protect and improve them, to develop new ones, and to protect Google and our users. We also use this information to offer you tailored content – like giving you more relevant search results and ads. [...] > We will ask for your consent before using information for a purpose other than those that are set out in this Privacy Policy. I don't think trading for profit on information a user would reasonably expect to be private (search history, browsing history, email) could reasonably be construed to fall into any of those categories, however the definition of "services" in "develop new [services]" is a bit of a joker. Google Hedge Fund anyone?
- linkregister 9y agoIt sounds like the kind of thing that would cause an existential crisis to the G Suite unit ($1B+ annual revenue) when discovered or leaked. This would have follow-on effects to other Google brands. Also massive liability for breach of contract or even perhaps fraud. In the G Suite contract, do customers indemnify Google from damages above a certain amount for privacy breaches? I haven't seen the T&Cs, just the privacy policy.
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- ngrilly 9y agoSeeing Google launch a SaaS product, in a specific domain mostly unrelated to its core business, is a bit worrying in terms of monopoly abuse.
- gomox 9y agoI would argue that recruiting is and has always been a strategic issue at Google.
- ngrilly 9y agoIf you follow this line of thinking, Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, SpaceX, Amazon and many others will also start to compete on the hiring software market.
- siissussjskk 9y agoShould they not?
- gomox 9y agoNo. I mean, recruiting is strategic everywhere, sure, but Google pioneered the Disneyland-style offices and perks since its early days. They always used their own software for recruiting as opposed to buying something off the shelf (of those you listed, I think only MSFT has their own thing for applicant tracking, and they were looking at options recently).
- sergiotapia 9y agoMan that UI is ugly. Material Design was a mistake for Google, all of their products look this way. Even the settings page on Chrome looks really bad and confusing.
- bschwindHN 9y agoI like some aspects of material design like layer heights and shadows. But you're right, this looks like someone cracked open a vanilla material design template, added some buttons, and shipped it.
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- agentgt 9y agoMy company makes recruiting software and it we knew it was only a matter of time (a couple of years ago... now its obvious) before Google would enter the recruiting industry. Particularly because the major players other than LinkedIn basically rely entirely on Google. All Indeed, Monster, CareerBuilder do is buy Google Ads and then essentially resells the marketing. This is similar to the situation TripAdvisor is in but generally worse. The current job boards / job aggregators (the companies above) are terribly unimaginative, generally not helpful and often price gouge companies (if you wondering the what the difference is between aggregator and job board... there really isn't much but one pulls the jobs aka crawls the web for them). Now the boards/aggregators are trying to become more service based and offer higher value offerings for long term strategic reasons. Indeed is rolling out "Indeed Prime" and I believe Career Builder is offering something similar as well. So as creepy as it is that Google is in the recruiting space I am optimistic that will finally provide some spark of innovation that is much needed in a very high touch industry devoid of it.
- nolok 9y agoHonestly the work to be done in search in general is still gigantic, and it's even bigger in job. Despite having tons of stores of all sorts (app stores by microsoft apple and google, movies streaming stores like netflix, game stores like steam, ...) no one has truly found a way to solve the discoverability problem that feels really satisfying. Some are decent, but that's mostly by sending you so many stuff at once that a few are bound to be acceptable, but that doesn't mean they were the best choices for you (eg you buy that game or look that movie, but there are other stuff you would have taken over it if the store had been able to identify them). Job/recruiting is even harder in that it's a two way attraction, the employee need to convince you but you need to convince them back. Result being, we self impose the same "spam" of propositions by seeing tons of candidate / interviewing in tons of companies, wasting a lot of people time (let's face it, in a big share of interviews either if not both of the parties knows it won't fit after just a couple of minutes). I have no doubt that companies who are not merely looking for marketing / reselling gimmick have a share of that space to own, Google or not.
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- delegate 9y agoI wonder why I don't see candidates jumping up from joy when they hear about it ? Don't you want to be conveniently tracked, compared, analyzed and disposed of with a couple of clicks ? Don't you want your professional profile to be sold to the highest bidder some time in the future ? I mean, I'm sure the software brings order and ease to the hiring process, but somehow this doesn't make me feel good. It makes me nauseous ... from how insignificant and mechanical this makes us.. people treating people like data...
- sjg007 9y agoYou will have to opt in to this viz a vi linkedIn. Otherwise building profiles falls under the fair credit reporting act.
- mintplant 9y ago> Hire offers businesses a cohesive applicant tracking service that’s deeply integrated with G Suite to make it easier for businesses to communicate with their candidates and track their progress through the interview process. This seems odd coming from Google, as they're notoriously inconsistent (and/or manipulative) with communication during the application-interview-hiring process.
- fara 9y agoIf you are not comfortable using Google products, we are currently using Pipedrive to mange the Recruiting pipeline and has proven to be great. Haven't tried Hire but seems to be about the same. With Pipedrive you can customize your process, setup reminders that integrate with your Google calendar, search for old canditates, use the budget field for salary, forward emails to keep the history log, add custom fields, etc. They wrote a blog post about this with some hints https://blog.pipedrive.com/2014/06/how-to-use-pipedrive-for-recruiting/ https://blog.pipedrive.com/2014/06/how-to-use-pipedrive-for-...
- gorbachev 9y agoWith some luck this will be the death blow to Taleo and the other legacy ATS vendors.
- gomox 9y agoI don't see this competing with enterprise ATS providers. It's an SMB product meant for GSuite customers.
- shimon 9y agoI'm sure that's what Google hopes the enterprise vendors think too. GSuite has already successfully traversed from SMBs to enterprise and if Hire is successful it will likely follow a similar path.
- gomox 9y agoI honestly don't see how. E-mail is a technical problem. Replacing Outlook with GMail is doable. Recruiting is a complex business process. Enterprise recruiting has significant regulatory hurdles as well as business specific requirements. There is a huge implemementation and service component to an enterprise ATS implementation, there is no "plug and play" here. I don't even see Google wanting to play that game.
- b3b0p 9y agoAny reason this is a link to TechCrunch instead of the original sources? Google Hire: https://hire.google.com https://hire.google.com Google Blog Introducing Hire: https://www.blog.google/products/g-suite/google-introduces-hire-new-recruiting-app-integrates-g-suite/ https://www.blog.google/products/g-suite/google-introduces-h...
- imjk 9y agoPerhaps because they discovered it on TC and wanted to give them the due credit. Or perhaps they felt the editorial content added value to their understanding or context.
- bhartzer 9y agoI'm surprised they didn't launch on hire.google, and chose to launch it on hire.google.com instead. Apparently Google doesn't see the .Google TLD as a priority for them.
- skummetmaelk 9y agoSoon companies will be able to specify wanted personality traits and Google Hire will only recommend them people who visit a certain set of websites and a specific social circle. Fun times ahead.
- linkregister 9y agoThat sounds more like what will be offered when Facebook decides to jump in the hiring game. Facebook ads allow incredibly narrow targeting, including race, age, gender, and interests across hundreds of dimensions. I've never looked at a Google Ads console, though. Maybe they allow similarly narrow criteria.
- nfriedly 9y agoHere's a link to the actual product: https://hire.google.com/ https://hire.google.com/
- cavisne 9y agoWhile the article says google doesn't want to compete with job boards... "Millions of job seekers start their search on Google every day. And with Hire, you get a career site that’s optimized for Google Search." I.e. You will get a site that will no doubt be right at the top of google jobs. The aggregation value of the job boards seems pretty minimal then if most candidates start on google anyway
- drivingmenuts 9y agoI wasn't even aware that Google had job listings.
- lostboys67 9y agoSo when does indeed get a google penalty
- crb002 9y agoGoogle skims top talent for themselves and feeds the rest out?
- olivierva 9y agoLook another product they will retire in about a years time.
- Bedon292 9y agoWe were just about to switch to Lever, and then this comes out. Seems like a nice option when we are already using GSuite for everything. Really curious their pricing and abilities though.
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- popopobobobo 9y agoDon't you guys realize what is happening? Google potentially can screw you with your careers now. Image they serve up your resume along with the type of porn you searched in the footnote.
- stanleydrew 9y agoAnd what value would Google get out of adding your porn search queries to your resume exactly?
- sawmurai 9y agoWell, they can tell their customers "look, if you search through us we can give you the candidates application along with a nice analysis of their personality, their history, their real interests etc."
- philip1209 9y agoI can't find a way to contact support (no surprise for a google product) - so if anybody from Google Hire is lurking, the "Webinar" button after the lead capture page leads to a 404 https://imgur.com/a/BIQlZ https://imgur.com/a/BIQlZ
- s3nnyy 9y agosame here
- Fricken 9y agoI'm surprised it took them this long. I was wondering why Google didn't get into this space a decade ago.
- chris__butters 9y agoLet's see how many businesses are destroyed and how much money Google makes because of this. It's a shame they can't just stand back and let people use websites like Indeed, Monster, JobSite among others and let them get on with it and just make money from the ads. Do they not make enough already?
- onion2k 9y agoLet's see how many businesses are destroyed and how much money Google makes because of this. If someone writes a script that destroys a business then the business couldn't have been adding much value to whatever it was selling. In this case Hire will likely sink some of the recruiters out there who match words on resumes to words on job descriptions for a 25%-of-the-candidates-salary fee, but that's not really a bad thing. Those people aren't adding value. Recruiters who actually work for their money by finding and coaching candidates, understanding the needs of their clients, actually knowing what those keywords are so they can do a 'fuzzy' match to find good candidates who might not be immediately apparent will still have a solid business offering that's worth paying for.
- dbattaglia 9y agoI'd feel worse if the major job boards offered better, more modern products. The last employer I worked for did recruitment software for the Fortune 500s. We offered career sites (pulling jobs from their ATS) and tools for recruiters to push their jobs to the various boards. From what I can tell having your career site be highly visible / SEO friendly on Google was the most important feature we offered. I agree that it's unfortunate watching giants like Google smash the competition, but it will be interesting to maybe finally see a truly modern job seeker facing job search. Now if only we can get these horrific ATS-es to join the 21st century with their application process...
- stale2002 9y agoThen maybe those companies should stop sucking. If Google can make a better recruiting experience, then they deserve my money, not other companies who suck. That's the free market!
- mxuribe 9y agoBecause I'm actively looking for another job, i instantly started thinking, "so how can i hack this to my benefit". Other than having my public profiles easy to have indexed by google, and continuing to apply for relevant jobs, I'm not seeing an angle...at least not one that benefits candidates (like myself) applying for jobs. Unless i'm missing something...?
- aguggs99 9y agoExactly! I feel that no one is attempting to create a application that makes it easier on the job seeker. Everything coming out now is to make the recruitment process better, not the actual job search.
- PangurBan 9y agoThis opens the possibility of launching further G Suite initiatives focused on other business problems and sectors
- partiallypro 9y agoDuh, they are competing with Microsoft's 365 which is doing just that. Wouldn't be surprised to see Google acquire a CRM company and integrate with with GSuite, or a competitor to PowerBI, etc.
- inetsee 9y agoWhat I'd really like to see is a database of information about employers that's not readily available until you become an employee, like non-compete agreements, intellectual property assignments, etc. If you've quit your job, sold your house / given up your apartment, moved all your stuff to a new city, then on your first day at your new job they hand you a stack of documents to sign including some (like non-compete agreements) that would have significantly influenced your decision to accept the job offer, then the employer has a great deal of leverage to get you to sign those documents. It would be nice if this kind of information were more readily available in advance to people considering job offers.
- lostboys67 9y agoAnd access to the private salary data that the big employers use would be nice as well.
- callalex 9y agoIf you're getting handed a non compete agreement you should be moving to a better state where the republicans don't have so much control.
- Clubber 9y agoGlassdoor.com is about the closest to that. At least you can get a high level feel on whether the company is a dumpster fire or not. So the trick with that idea, and I think it's a valuable one, is how to monetize it. Companies that do recruiting are paid by the companies. Who would pay the companies that work for the developer / contractor?
- daxelrod 9y agoOoof, I've always had the privilege of getting these up front with my offer. I don't think I'd agree to an offer without knowing what all of these were up front.
- mLuby 9y agoWas that just luck or did you have to negotiate for that privilege? If so I'm curious how that conversation goes…
- 6stringmerc 9y ago...oh, another proprietary system for seekers to jump through a la Taleo? Sounds good to me, as I'm on the other side of the fence with my concept and target market, and will take as many big, heavyweight, Job-Poster oriented targets possible when getting ready to debut or share more about the project. I wonder if you can skip the "Background Check" as an Applicant just by letting Google run a report for them on your GMail account profile haha.
- balls187 9y agoWe use Jobvite. Works pretty well.
- TallGuyShort 9y agoIf I had a dollar for every time Jobvite didn't work for me, I could hire so many people.
- bigtones 9y agoThe 'Hire' product just launched today actually came from an acquisition, it was not developed internally by Google at all. It was developed by Bebop, a company Google acquired last year for $380 Million that was founded by Diane Greene (Founder of VMWare). When Google decided to bring Diane Greene on full time to run Google Cloud, they had to purchase her company in order to facilitate that. Bebop originally had aspirations to shake up the enterprise software space by building a suite of applications, and the 'Hire' app was the first one they produced. Bebop employees have been working on it since then and had a long beta period before the launch today. As noted in the TechCrunch article, the 'Hired' platform also runs the Google for Jobs website that launched earlier this year. http://fortune.com/2016/01/04/google-paid-380-million-for-diane-greenes-startup/ http://fortune.com/2016/01/04/google-paid-380-million-for-di... https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/bebop https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/bebop
- ertand 9y agoMisleading typo: s/hired/hire
- Giroflex 9y ago> Bebop, a company Google acquired last year for $380 Million > When Google decided to bring Diane Greene on full time to run Google Cloud, they had to purchase her company in order to facilitate that Well, that's an expensive hire.
- mandeepj 9y agoI think it already paid off. She on-boarded Snap, Apple and Netflix Edit - I am impressed with Diane Greene. She donated all of her take from acquisition of her company - http://www.businessinsider.com/diane-green-donates-150m-to-charity-2016-1 http://www.businessinsider.com/diane-green-donates-150m-to-c...
- bilbo0s 9y agoDoes Netflix use Google Cloud? Or do they just support it with Security Monkey?
- hunvreus 9y agoWe've tried Workable, Lever and about half a dozen other platforms. None of them stuck. What has worked is to do everything in GitHub. We wrote about it a few years ago [1] and should probably write an updated version of our approach, but in a nutshell; - When candidates apply through our online form on our website or via email, we create a GitHub issue and assign it to the right person on our team. - Everybody on the team gets to see who's applying and can easily take part into the discussion. - We wrote a few small Chrome extensions that act as helpers for managing applications. For example Gdocs Preview [2], which allows us to display the preview of attachments (i.e. resumes) in the GitHub issue directly. - We've added some automation with Zapier [3] (and some Python) to do things like; - Automatically close an issue and email the candidate if we label the issue as "To reject", - Automatically pull email answers from the applicants in the issue thread, - Automatically send an email asking people to book an interview time with Calendly [4] - ... Now, this works mostly because we're a software company first and we're using GitHub for everything [5]. Additionally, compensations and feedback on applicants are shared with the whole team, not sure every organization would be comfortable with that level of transparency. The main benefit is that there is virtually no friction for team members to help out with recruitment and share their opinion. It's also part of our on-boarding to point new employees at their recruitment issue; they get to see what we discussed and how we perceived them through the process. [1]: https://wiredcraft.com/blog/github-as-your-recruitment-platform/ https://wiredcraft.com/blog/github-as-your-recruitment-platf... [2]: https://github.com/Wiredcraft/gdocs-preview https://github.com/Wiredcraft/gdocs-preview [3]: https://zapier.com https://zapier.com [4]: https://calendly.com https://calendly.com [5]: https://wiredcraft.com/blog/github-for-everything/ https://wiredcraft.com/blog/github-for-everything/
- shimon 9y agoThis is impressive, mainly because of the level of clarity around the hiring process and your group's transparency around compensation and candidate feedback. Kudos. Most orgs wouldn't even consider something this open.
- andrewstuart 9y ago>>We've tried Workable, Lever and about half a dozen other platforms. None of them stuck. Why did they not stick? What were they doing wrong?
- campuscodi 9y agoReal source: https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2017/07/google-introduces-hire-new-recruiting.html https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2017/07/google-introduc...
- rdtsc 9y agoI bet in the future this will be enhanced with Google providing various stats and scores based on the social and advertising profile people have. For example a % score with something like this: "Trustworthiness", "Political activism", "Obedience", "Addictions", "Laziness", "Morality", "Extroversion" etc. It will be opaque and derived from their "secret sauce" by scouring GMail, DNS queries from your IP, phone calls you made on your Android phone, stuff you bought and search for in Chrome and so on. Some companies and even landlords check credit scores when you apply. Criminal records. Border patrol checks social account postings. Imagine having access to all non-public stuff Google and Facebook has. I wonder if that some point they'd know people better than people know themselves at. I kinda experienced that with Netflix when I was a subscriber. It suggested movies that at first glance I wouldn't think I'd enjoy but the algorithm had figured me out enough that if I took the suggestion, it usually was right and I ended up liking the movie. It was a pleasant and creepy surprise at the same time.
- learc83 9y agoDoes anyone know what the applicant side of this looks like? I can't find anything about this on their site.
- fauigerzigerk 9y agoSo how long until Google offers screening/scoring/vetting of applicants based on the data it has about all of us? All voluntary of course, if you can afford to decline. This isn't far fetched. Employers have asked to access Facebook accounts before, which is extreme and will never catch on (I think). But allowing Google to rank and match applicants to particular roles may seem harmless enough to many, and then it will become very difficult for anyone to say no.
- CryoLogic 9y agoOn the plus side, while google may have an advantage for run of the mill jobs - niche sites like stack overflow careers will always have a better ROI for specialized positions.
- spullara 9y agoIt is unclear to me why many people are comparing this effort to a job board. It is pretty clearly an ATS and competes with Jobvite and not Indeed.
- joshfraser 9y agoSince when did Google become a "request demo" company?
- redindian75 9y agoanyone know how they made those nifty animations - was it handcoded?
- redindian75 9y agodirect link: https://hire.google.com/ https://hire.google.com/
- seanwilson 9y agoCan anyone explain the logic behind picking commonly used words as product names? I know this is Google, but isn't it hard to rank well with such generic names?
- andrewstuart 9y agoI'm building something new in the hiring space which I hope to release soon. When you hear about some new entrant to the space that you are creating a new product for, there is the inevitable "gulp" as you urgently scan their features to see how similar it is to your new thing, especially when the product is from a giant company like Google. Fortunately in this case Google Hire just looks like another "me too" similar to all the other products. I'm hoping what I have built is actually some fresh thinking. Now if can just grind through the remaining tasks in that never ending task list....
- aguggs99 9y agoWhat is the basis of your new product?
- jxramos 9y agoWhat does their usage of the term "verticals" denote? >>>While Hire itself is interesting in its own right, it’s also interesting to see that Google is now looking to use the G Suite tools and back-end services it has developed over the last few years to solve problems in very specific verticals.
- dividezero 9y agoWhat is Google doing in this space? Seems like monopolization at its finest
- sandGorgon 9y agoI'm in the market for an ATS. none of which offer anything for less than 100-300$ per month. That's more than what o spend on other core API. Is there an ATS at the ~10$ price range ?
- cyberferret 9y agoWell, we just released our own ATS add on to our HR package (I won't mention the link here in case it is considered self promotion spam, but it is in my bio). When setting pricing for our ATS, our research showed that most systems with any level of sophistication was around $8 per employee per month, which is incidentally what our pricing is. So a small company with 10 employees can use it for $80/mo, but a larger one will go up commensurately. When you consider though, that this pricing is less than 0.1% of your total monthly wage bill, then it sort of puts things in perspective.
- sandGorgon 9y agothat's a decent pricing. Which one is your ATS: hrpartner ? Because I didnt understand that it had an ATS. P.S. prepend "shameless plug" to your shameless plug. But do show us your stuff. All the early startups got their customers on HN ;)
- cyberferret 9y agoHaha - yes, it is (here goes - shameless plug) - http://www.hrpartner.io http://www.hrpartner.io ATS is a brand new module we just released in the past month or so, and is getting good traction to date. There are a lot of standalone ATS systems out there, but our customers (and potential customers) were wanting an all in one integrated solution, so we built it. Feel free to ping me directly if you have any questions - devan (at) hrpartner.io
- Animats 9y agoWill this mean that you can't get a job without a Google account?
- fastball 9y agoI'm guessing "Hired" doesn't have a trademark on the name?
- jsprenne 9y agoFinally
- richardkeller 9y agoWill be interesting to see how Google Hire is used by agencies, as opposed to companies sourcing their own talent. Obligatory plug: I'm the cofounder of RecruitDoor [1], an applicant tracking system for recruitment agencies. We've been running in South Africa for a few months now, and we'll be branching internationally next month. (Comments and critique welcome, by the way; we're currently still a startup). [1] https://www.recruitdoor.com https://www.recruitdoor.com
- jacob_rezi 9y agoHi Richard, I am the cofounder of Rezi, a company that creates resumes optimized to perform better with applicant tracking systems. Our goal is to align our services per the specfications of specific ats companies. https://rezi.io https://rezi.io
- joepour 9y agoI wrote a fully featured ATS last year that is currently for sale: https://flippa.com/8808403-growbeam-com https://flippa.com/8808403-growbeam-com Seems like there are a lot of people in this thread who might find this relevant.
- alonshiran 9y agoSmart move. They're building a strong suite of corporate products and creating more barriers to leave it. Kind of similar to Apple's hardware products that are strongly connected. Too bad though that google is killing another industry on the way...