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Firefox is a good one. They're clearly implementing a fix for this bug.

by coldpie 9y ago

gcp 9y ago
IMHO this should be blocked by Tracking Protection.
- ianbicking 9y ago
  The general policy at Mozilla – which I'm pretty sure addons.mozilla.org follows (given https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/blob/28410742c206e53e568bdff557d416d970c0f1d0/src/core/tracking.js#L29 https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/blob/28410742c206...) is that we don't use Google Analytics on websites if you have Do Not Track on. It's a little less clear here because we're embedding a website into an interface that appears to be part of the browser, which is why there was a suggestion by a maintainer in the first response that we should use both Do Not Track and a Firefox data collection flag. But the Do Not Track preference is just as well-exposed as other flags, so I doubt that would have an effect on many users who would object to this tracking (who are very likely to have turned on Do Not Track).
  - kuschku 9y ago
    The discovery.addons.mozilla.org page does not respect Do Not Track, but as a result of the thread, someone just made a PR to implement that feature: https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/pull/2787 https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/pull/2787 Currently, no matter what privacy settings you set, you are being tracked, without being informed about it, without opt-out. This is likely even illegal in the EU.
    - MaxLeiter 9y ago
      The pull request was closed without merging https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/pull/2787#issuecomment-314872289 https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/pull/2787#issueco...
      - kuschku 9y ago
        That facepalm hurt. Honestly, what the fuck are they even trying to do? This has to be the most mis-managed situation I’ve seen yet.
davb 9y ago
I guess I'm interested in browsers who's developers wouldn't have done this in the first place - a browser which has privacy as a core principle and who's develop we wouldn't consider pushing any data, regardless of aggregation or commercial value, to a third party without explicit consent..
- coldpie 9y ago
  To be blunt, you're not going to find one. Developing a modern browser is extremely difficult, on the order of developing an entire operating system. Mozilla does respect privacy rights, and it is clearly treating this as a bug to be fixed. You're going to have to cut them some slack for not being 100% perfect always.
  - throwaway2048 9y ago
    The fact they thought this was a good idea to begin with speaks volumes about their actual position.
    - coldpie 9y ago
      I disagree. I think people who believe in protecting their privacy can also be OK with Google Analytics processing, anonymizing, and aggregating the data. I also understand why someone would not feel that way. I think it's something about which reasonable people can disagree. This is why Mozilla provides the option[1]. [1] Which is, incorrectly, not being respected. This is a bug which they will fix.
      - hu3 9y ago
        http://i.imgur.com/fsATjLv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fsATjLv.jpg
    - uAntabaka 9y ago
      They really didn't actively think it was a good idea. They changed the discovery tab to be a web page, which as the github repo linked by the OP will show you, is now handled in the same repo (by the same people) as the AMO website proper. It was a mistake, and not as huge of one as people are making it out to be. As they have repeatedly pointed out, their GA contract makes it essentially a non-issue, unless you believe Google is so obsessed with tracking that they will violate their contract with Mozilla.

Firefox is a good one. They're clearly implementing a fix for this bug.

gcp 9y ago

IMHO this should be blocked by Tracking Protection.

ianbicking 9y ago
The general policy at Mozilla – which I'm pretty sure addons.mozilla.org follows (given https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/blob/28410742c206e53e568bdff557d416d970c0f1d0/src/core/tracking.js#L29 https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/blob/28410742c206...) is that we don't use Google Analytics on websites if you have Do Not Track on. It's a little less clear here because we're embedding a website into an interface that appears to be part of the browser, which is why there was a suggestion by a maintainer in the first response that we should use both Do Not Track and a Firefox data collection flag. But the Do Not Track preference is just as well-exposed as other flags, so I doubt that would have an effect on many users who would object to this tracking (who are very likely to have turned on Do Not Track).
- kuschku 9y ago
  The discovery.addons.mozilla.org page does not respect Do Not Track, but as a result of the thread, someone just made a PR to implement that feature: https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/pull/2787 https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/pull/2787 Currently, no matter what privacy settings you set, you are being tracked, without being informed about it, without opt-out. This is likely even illegal in the EU.
  - MaxLeiter 9y ago
    The pull request was closed without merging https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/pull/2787#issuecomment-314872289 https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/pull/2787#issueco...
    - kuschku 9y ago
      That facepalm hurt. Honestly, what the fuck are they even trying to do? This has to be the most mis-managed situation I’ve seen yet.

davb 9y ago

I guess I'm interested in browsers who's developers wouldn't have done this in the first place - a browser which has privacy as a core principle and who's develop we wouldn't consider pushing any data, regardless of aggregation or commercial value, to a third party without explicit consent..

coldpie 9y ago
To be blunt, you're not going to find one. Developing a modern browser is extremely difficult, on the order of developing an entire operating system. Mozilla does respect privacy rights, and it is clearly treating this as a bug to be fixed. You're going to have to cut them some slack for not being 100% perfect always.
- throwaway2048 9y ago
  The fact they thought this was a good idea to begin with speaks volumes about their actual position.
  - coldpie 9y ago
    I disagree. I think people who believe in protecting their privacy can also be OK with Google Analytics processing, anonymizing, and aggregating the data. I also understand why someone would not feel that way. I think it's something about which reasonable people can disagree. This is why Mozilla provides the option[1]. [1] Which is, incorrectly, not being respected. This is a bug which they will fix.
    - hu3 9y ago
      http://i.imgur.com/fsATjLv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fsATjLv.jpg
  - uAntabaka 9y ago
    They really didn't actively think it was a good idea. They changed the discovery tab to be a web page, which as the github repo linked by the OP will show you, is now handled in the same repo (by the same people) as the AMO website proper. It was a mistake, and not as huge of one as people are making it out to be. As they have repeatedly pointed out, their GA contract makes it essentially a non-issue, unless you believe Google is so obsessed with tracking that they will violate their contract with Mozilla.