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Perhaps that is true for a vegan diet where you only eat standard American food, but a whole foods plant-based diet has been shown time after time to lower risk
by zosophorous 9y ago
Perhaps that is true for a vegan diet where you only eat standard American food, but a whole foods plant-based diet has been shown time after time to lower risks for all sorts of diseases, from heart disease to cancer to parkingsons and MS.
Iron and calcium are in plants, D is in fact added to milk, and can be added to a plant based diet via a pill as well if you don't synthesize enough. You are an animal; your body creates enough creatine (creatine production is in fact downregulated when you consume meat). B12 can also be added via a pill, and it is already added to many foods like cereal.
When you look deeper into the facts, you will see that the Standard American Diet faces far more deficiencies, the most obvious being fiber.
- markeroon 9y agoThis is true, but the bioavailability of non-heme iron is 14-18% of heme iron https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/ https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/ It makes sense to just eat a balanced diet.
- petre 9y agoAlso zinc and copper is found in animal sources. The only non-animal source for vitamin D is UV exposed mushrooms.
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- lostlogin 9y agoOr alternatively you can just go outside for a bit.
- cperciva 9y agoYou could sunbathe naked in Vancouver for six months a year and not get enough vitamin D.
- lostlogin 9y agoI had a look, and while that's an exaggeration it's certainly hard to get enough of it in winter. In summer in Calgary it's 600IU per min while in winter it takes 2 hours 42 minutes to get that much. http://purenorth.ca/vitamin-d-your-health/how-much-do-i-need/ http://purenorth.ca/vitamin-d-your-health/how-much-do-i-need...
- cperciva 9y agoThat calculator is assuming "midday sun", which doesn't last for very long. (Also, I've been told that 1500 IU/day is what I should aim for.)
- lostlogin 9y agoThat's a lot more than the likes of the Mayo clinic recommend but presumably there is a reason for that. Even if there wasn't, nearly 3 hours outside per day in winter is not that attractive sounding.
- cperciva 9y agoMy understanding is that 600 IU/day is a "we have lots of evidence that getting less than this is bad" whereas 1500 IU/day is "we know this is completely safe, and there's some evidence that it's better than 600 IU/day". Rather like vitamin C, there's some debate about how much is optimal, but you need to take truly astounding amounts in order to cause adverse effects.
- seanmcdirmid 9y agoJust wear enough protection, especially if you are in austrailia. Skin cancer is also on the rise.
- fian 9y agoBut not too much protection: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/the-great-aussie-paradox-vitamin-d-deficiency-rates-soar-20121023-282kg.html http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/the-great-a...
- rpedela 9y agoWhat is the "standard american diet"? Are you talking junk food which is certainly a bad diet? Or are you talking about the food plate/pyramid which is definitely a good diet?
- toasterlovin 9y ago> The food plate/pyramid which is definitely a good diet? Just an FYI: no diets have been conclusively shown to definitely be good. The science simply has never been done. The two competing diet regimes (high carb, low fat and low carb, high fat), are recommended by their supporters based on proxies for their theoretical long term benefit, not based on their measured long term benefit.
- legulere 9y agoEating a diet largely based on plants but with meat every now and then has all the benefits of a purely plant based diet but without the problems
- eternauta3k 9y agoI've been thinking of doing vegetarian + ocasional liver. But I'm not super comfortable with upping my legume intake to replace meat.
- defen 9y agoBe careful with liver if you're a woman who is pregnant / thinking of becoming pregnant - it's super high in retinol which can cause problems.
- ChristianBundy 9y agoPlease name one problem with a vegan diet that's solved by meat. Meat is a carcinogen, it's highly correlated with a variety of diseases, and the "vitamin supplements" doesn't hold water seeing as how animals killed for meat have to be given vitamin supplements anyway. Eating meat is a fantastic last resort if you don't have enough food and your only other option is malnutrition/starvation, but it's terrible for you as anything other than a stopgap until you can eat some plants/fungi.
- rpedela 9y agoCarcinogen? Source?
- georgewsinger 9y agohttps://nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_search=cancer&fwp_content_type=video https://nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_search=cancer&fwp_content_ty...
- rpedela 9y ago