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But it can sound warmer and to some people that sounds better. You just seem annoyed that some people enjoy things that you don't.

hashkb 9y ago
Please define "warmer" and compare to how 100 other vinyl buffs define it. It's meaningless, if you just admit it's an emotional preference then I'm fine with it.
- torrent-of-ions 9y ago
  Define jovial. Define melancholic. It's music. The entire point is to evoke an emotional response. I can't define "warm" but people know what I mean when I say it and that's all that matters.
  - Dylan16807 9y ago
    Music can be jovial or melancholic. Not recording technologies. Technologies can have varying ability to carry certain kinds of music, but we can describe that ability with objective terms. Do people actually know what you mean by "warm"? Are you sure it's not just a way of saying "the things you like about vinyl (varying per person)"? Because a definition like that would be a perfect example of something that's an association-based preference rather than a attribute-based preference. Which like hashkb said is perfectly fine to have, but makes the term pretty meaningless.
- aaronarduino 9y ago
  The question them becomes, where does that preference come from. The answer to that is what would cause people to think something is warmer. When someone says something is warmer it is due to a few factors. The first is a bump in volume in the frequency range from 280hz to 900hz. The second is a quality that causes sounds to separate or mush together. I think that is due to format resolution or frequency range. I think the second factor is what really separates digital and analog recording. Digital generally does not allow for sounds to mush together it keeps things separated.
- mtalantikite 9y ago
  I think it largely depends on the recording and mastering process. I have lots of friends that use a fully analog process end to end, which changes the way you approach your sessions and the recording gear itself plays a huge part in the sound. You're then mixing and mastering for a playback medium that isn't just radio or mid-quality streaming on iPhone earbuds. All of that has a very real impact on the end result and lots of old albums were recorded, mixed, and mastered for a fully analog playback medium. If we're talking about music made in a fully digital studio and then pressed to vinyl at the end, then yeah, there really isn't a difference. Maybe it even sounds worse. But if your musicians and engineers are thinking about an entirely analog end result, then I do think it sounds different (and in my opinion better).

hashkb 9y ago

Please define "warmer" and compare to how 100 other vinyl buffs define it. It's meaningless, if you just admit it's an emotional preference then I'm fine with it.

torrent-of-ions 9y ago
Define jovial. Define melancholic. It's music. The entire point is to evoke an emotional response. I can't define "warm" but people know what I mean when I say it and that's all that matters.
- Dylan16807 9y ago
  Music can be jovial or melancholic. Not recording technologies. Technologies can have varying ability to carry certain kinds of music, but we can describe that ability with objective terms. Do people actually know what you mean by "warm"? Are you sure it's not just a way of saying "the things you like about vinyl (varying per person)"? Because a definition like that would be a perfect example of something that's an association-based preference rather than a attribute-based preference. Which like hashkb said is perfectly fine to have, but makes the term pretty meaningless.
aaronarduino 9y ago
The question them becomes, where does that preference come from. The answer to that is what would cause people to think something is warmer. When someone says something is warmer it is due to a few factors. The first is a bump in volume in the frequency range from 280hz to 900hz. The second is a quality that causes sounds to separate or mush together. I think that is due to format resolution or frequency range. I think the second factor is what really separates digital and analog recording. Digital generally does not allow for sounds to mush together it keeps things separated.
mtalantikite 9y ago
I think it largely depends on the recording and mastering process. I have lots of friends that use a fully analog process end to end, which changes the way you approach your sessions and the recording gear itself plays a huge part in the sound. You're then mixing and mastering for a playback medium that isn't just radio or mid-quality streaming on iPhone earbuds. All of that has a very real impact on the end result and lots of old albums were recorded, mixed, and mastered for a fully analog playback medium. If we're talking about music made in a fully digital studio and then pressed to vinyl at the end, then yeah, there really isn't a difference. Maybe it even sounds worse. But if your musicians and engineers are thinking about an entirely analog end result, then I do think it sounds different (and in my opinion better).