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Google Jobs Search
- vinayan3 9y agoI tried out the example in the post and didn't get any of the contextualized information. Guess it isn't rolled out to everyone yet or do you have to sign up somewhere to see it?
- eof 9y agoI also just tried. I was able to get contextualized information when searching 'programming jobs nyc' but not 'programming jobs burlington vt'.
- coldcode 9y agoMe either I just go usual search results. I wonder if it is not universally available or somehow very specific to certain keywords
- tovacinni 9y agoWorked for me - just searched "retail jobs" and came up with results from around my area
- guessmyname 9y agoI am not in the US but used a free VPN to search for "golang jobs" [1] Once you click one of those postings you get a screen like this [2] However, be aware of the date filter because the posts listed here are older than what Google says. Many, if not all, of the posts scrapped from remoteok.io are several months old, even years, so the "x days ago" that Google shows is just the time when the post was indexed rather than the time the post was created. So you are still prone to see useless posts. [1] https://i.imgur.com/jMjoIso.png https://i.imgur.com/jMjoIso.png [2] https://i.imgur.com/zBIlxU1.png https://i.imgur.com/zBIlxU1.png
- GrumpyNl 9y agoDoes Google have a deal with these companies? Will this be the start of the end of all those job sites? is Google just testing the waters? So many questions.
- sheeshkebab 9y agoIt's like Indeed (in the early days, when they didn't have post jobs/resume search). I guess it's possible they could build google apps type thing for recruiters eventually and step on everyone, although it's doubtful it will do them much good to get into that field.
- Consultant32452 9y ago"Hi, I noticed you have a job opening. Would you like me to fill that position with a small python script?" ~Google AI
- downrightmike 9y ago"Hey Google, what's happening? Aahh, now, are you going to go ahead and have those TPS reports for us this afternoon?" http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001873/quotes http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001873/quotes
- amelius 9y agoIt's kind of ridiculous that these big companies can overtake whole markets simply by engaging into them.
- ocdtrekkie 9y agoAlso, consider the size and employment of a lot of these other companies. And then, look at how many people Google is actually likely to employ on this product, given their obsession with automation and an utter lack of human support. Suffice to say, this, like many other new Google products, will put hundreds or thousands of people out on the street. People want to know where the jobs went. People are looking for jobs? The only jobs safe from Google takeovers are Google jobs. And I'm not so sure how committed Google would be to keeping their own employees if they could automate them away too.
- naturalgradient 9y agoNot to be flippant, but ever since LinkedIn has become unbearably slow and buggy to use (since the UI update), any pressure to improve is welcome.
- QML 9y agoTwo reasons I don't use LinkedIn: they ask for me to signup when viewing profiles, and it seems over complicated to do anything on that site.
- privateprofile 9y agoAre you a professional working in the IT industry, or in industries where LinkedIn has a lot of candidates (e.g. media, advertising, etc)? I'm asking because I'm curious of how job hunting and networking goes for you without LinkedIn.
- blowski 9y agoNot the OP but I'm a developer and I don't have LinkedIn. I never have any problems finding work. I have a personal site with my CV on it, and I spend a lot of time networking.
- kylestlb 9y agoAggregating the glassdoor/indeed/etc scores at the bottom of the posting is a nice little feature. Excited to see this grow.
- frgtpsswrdlame 9y agoGoogle has so much information about me already, I'm not sure I actually want to give them data about my employment as well.
- s3r3nity 9y agoI empathize, but I'm pretty sure that Google already knows a bit about your employment, and/or is doing really good modeling to figure it out probabilistically. (Ex: if you make Google searches between 9-5 in a certain location consistently, you most likely work there.)
- frgtpsswrdlame 9y agoI'm not sure this is really a defense... I try and practice a certain level of privacy (not enough) but I don't really like how much google is aggregating on me. Just recently I had a problem with my car (Honda Civic) so I searched some youtube videos on it and ended up ordering a part online, now my Google News feed is showing me a whole bunch of articles for the Civic Type-R and asking me if I'm interested in Honda. That's my mistake for being lax but I'm starting to think that maybe we should reconsider our relationship with our personal data. Google relies on individuals like me to make small slips which permanently compromise our privacy.
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- setq 9y agoNot sure I like this. The reason I tend to use external job sites is that they don't know who I am so I don't have to spend three weeks beating off recruiters with a shitty stick. Google knows who I am.
- eliben 9y agoNot every person looking for a job has to "beat off recruiters" - some folks would be happy to hear from any recruiter, I imagine
- kzisme 9y agoWhen I hear these sorts of comments I'm always curious how long these people have been working. It obviously isn't everyone receiving cold calls and such, so what sets them apart?
- Taylor_OD 9y agoI'm assuming he's talking about people who are not developers / technical.
- setq 9y agoI've been working for 16 years in the IT sector in software dev (senior/architecture/devops cack) and then 3 years engineering before that. You don't get cold calls. You plonk your CV somewhere, take a position and then have to change your phone number because they won't go away even if you have taken a position :)
- sna1l 9y agoI wonder if the end goal here is for Google to start selling "Promoted Jobs" advertisements. I'm also a little concerned if this gets popular that competitors jobs will happen to be further down the list than they should be, but that's probably just my paranoia.
- mundo 9y agoI don't think you're being paranoid enough; the end goal here is for Google to be the biggest and best source of every kind of information anyone would ever want, ever.
- halflings 9y agoParanoid? That's the official company-wide mission/slogan: "Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." https://www.google.com/intl/en/about/ https://www.google.com/intl/en/about/ Nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned.
- kuschku 9y agoNothing is wrong with a monopoly as long as it’s controlled democratically by all who use it. In the next years, either we’ll have to break Google up, ban them from the European markets, or find a way for all citizen to have control over Google. And if we end up with the German government straight up buying Google. But a single person having control over a monopoly that becomes a necessity in your life is becoming close to autocracy. It’s not that problematic yet, but if Google actually takes over the employment market, self-driving cars, and more (same with Amazon, if they actually manage to take over all Retail), then there’s a massive issue. Autocratic Corporations should never be allowed to hold any monopoly – Cooperatives would be a better alternative for that.
- throwanem 9y ago> a monopoly as long as it’s controlled democratically by all who use it Another word for this arrangement is "government".
- happy-go-lucky 9y ago> Connecting more Americans with jobs Isn't that being "nationalistic"? Can't you be universal? Come on, Google!
- dctoedt 9y agoBaby steps to prove the concept before scaling up — crawl before walking, walk before running. Even for Google.
- alfonsodev 9y agoWhat about non Americans leaving in EEUU and looking for a job ?
- happy-go-lucky 9y agoYou're right, but Google would be limping without non-Americans :)
- iooi 9y agoGoogle gets half of its revenue from the US [1] https://www.recode.net/2017/4/29/15479932/alphabet-revenue-geography https://www.recode.net/2017/4/29/15479932/alphabet-revenue-g...
- happy-go-lucky 9y agoFine, can they leave out the other half?
- soldierofhayley 9y agoLeave out from what?
- SEJeff 9y ago"Hi I'd like to connect with you on GoogleJobs"
- justforFranz 9y agono
- vthallam 9y agoGmail + Google Jobs could be probably their own career network.
- komali2 9y agoProbably. If I was monster/linkedin I'd get chills on reading this news. Luckily the google employees interviewed were saying things along the lines of "we just want to make it easier for people to find jobs on these providers, not replace the providers." CEO of Monster said basically the same thing - I can't find the quote on mobile, but essentially "This fits with our goal, which is for candidates to find a good fit. This will be difficult times, however, for jobs sites that depend on SEO." EDIT: found the article https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/20/google-launches-its-ai-powered-jobs-search-engine/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/20/google-launches-its-ai-pow...
- skinnymuch 9y agoIs Monster still big? I thought it "lost" compared to Indeed, Career Builder and to a certain extent, LinkedIn. Vs 10 years ago, Monster was the site.
- komali2 9y agoDunno, but I get the best "passive" response rate from recruiters on Monster - i.e., out of the blue calls increased by a huge margin when I put my resume on it.
- jorgemf 9y agoThis reminds me the time google launched google maps in mobile. Now all job aggregators has suddenly decreased their value.
- wonderous 9y agoNo thanks, Google already has its fingers in too many pots. My guess is this is a response to Microsoft buying LinkedIn.
- jhall1468 9y agoOr, you know, a natural progression for a company whose sole goal is to help you find whatever it is you are looking for.
- JorgeGT 9y ago> goal is to help you find whatever it is you are looking for. Oh, I thought the goal was to obtain incredibly detailed consumer profiles by offering to search whatever it is you are looking for, and then sell targeted ads based on those profiles, in order to obtain monetary profit.
- throwasehasdwi 9y agoSame thing eh?
- komali2 9y ago>https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/20/google-launches-its-ai-powered-jobs-search-engine/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/20/google-launches-its-ai-pow... In the techrunch article, the interviewed employee says they won't be using prior knowledge to drive jobs search results. Sure, ads may become more targeted, but this isn't your typical "users also bought..." type deal.
- a5seo 9y agoI bet the founders of Indeed are glad they sold it when they did. Any business that depends on putting their own search results inside of Google's is going to be a target of "forward integration."
- halflings 9y agoLooks like Indeed sold in 2012, for 1 billion. I would bet it would've sold for much much more if they sold it later (at peak "unicorn" hype), but this is easy to say in hindsight.
- kornish 9y agoAnd perhaps, in six months with Google Jobs Search eating up market share, it would have sold for much less. Seizing a 1 billion USD exit opportunity seems like a more than acceptable outcome.
- a5seo 9y agoHeh, especially considering they only took 1 round of VC years after bootstrapping. I wouldn't be surprised if they still owned 80% of it at exit.
- ocdtrekkie 9y agoTrue, however, Google is facing more and more pressure from regulators for favoring their own services in search. The EU is expected to drop a massive penalty in the next month or two for Google favoring their own shopping services over others, and surely implement new restrictions on how they can conduct themselves in this regard.
- soldierofhayley 9y agoI look forward to the US absolutely destroying EU companies, the few that exist, with massive fines and penalties in retaliation :)
- dag11 9y agoI wonder how they dogfooded this. :-P
- frozenport 9y agoWhen the team gets fired for rolling out another Google Plus
- vitus 9y agoThere were many internal memes. "Hmm, not sure if Google is trying to tell me something..."
- sergiotapia 9y agoWhat is the URL for Google Jobs Search? You'd think they'd put the URL front and center...
- theCricketer 9y agoI don't think they want it to be a different service from Search (like Google Flights is). It's more that when you search for something like "jobs near me" you get these job results, just like the custom restaurant search/flight search from google.com
- guessmyname 9y agoThis is the URL [1] where FOOBAR is whatever job you want. You will have to be IN the US, near, or using a VPN routing through the US to see the new feature, otherwise you will get the same old results that you have been getting so far. Notice that if you are going to use a VPN you MUST NOT be logged into your Google account, otherwise the search engine will ignore your request because it will detect that your account is not from the countries selected for this release. https://www.google.com/search?q=FOOBAR+jobs https://www.google.com/search?q=FOOBAR+jobs
- mxuribe 9y agoI wonder if this means that instead of applying across numerous - way too many - career/job search sites (and filling in the same thing over and over again)...that maybe I can just fill stuff out once, and be done...and let the "machines" do the work for me? ;-)
- steveadoo 9y agoOff topic - but I haven't been able to right click text and bring up the context menu on google's blog for a few months now..
- aphextron 9y agoThis sounds amazing. I honestly think recruiters can be entirely replaced by a decent A.I. and good scheduling software. And we would all be better off.
- ep103 9y agoSure, but I don't want that AI to be the same one that has access to all my emails, tracks me across the internet, and knows my google searches.
- euyyn 9y agoWouldn't knowing about you help the results be better suited to you? Disclaimer: I have no idea how Google Jobs Search is implemented.
- VLM 9y agoThe assumption is I google search the things I know and enjoy, which is actually pretty accurate for time-at-home bored-surfing. One problem is I also spend a huge amount of time googling stuff I'm completely uninterested in and hate doing. What wires do you jumper again to test a mid 00s whirlpool freezer icemaker to verify its motor works, again? Once its fixed I never want to see that again, certainly don't want to work as an appliance repairman. Possibly there is an algorithm to analyze behavior. Oh he's searching for freebsd something or other maybe he'd like a sysadmin job. Oh look he's hate-searching for icemaker repair again, better not suggest appliance repair jobs.
- pthrowaway 9y agoIf your horror scenario proves true then we'd all end up getting adverts for jobs in porn.
- ep103 9y agoHow different would your private life be, if you thought there was a chance it could affect your future job prospects? If everything in my personal life were known over the last 20 years, I'd probably be unemployable. Let's just start with politics. I was an activist in my early 20s. When I was young, I had some pretty radical ideas. Google knows that, there's plenty in my gmail about it. Should that really be used to inform my current job prospects, 20 years later? Google knows every time I've taken a sick day and lied about it (I carry my android phone, and use google maps). Etc.
- supremesaboteur 9y agoIs this the only major feature that has come out of Google search in the last year ? Are they not focusing on search anymore ?
- throwasehasdwi 9y agoHow long will it be until employers can look up all the information Google has about me? More importantly, how long will it be until users will be expected to give access to their "likes, skills, and interests" for targeted recruiting? At least LinkedIn is easy enough to keep separate from the rest of my life. Google knows everything about me.
- justin66 9y agoLinkedin is owned by Microsoft. If you're using Windows, what Google knows about you is (potentially, hypothetically, etc.) a subset of what Microsoft knows about you.
- euyyn 9y ago> How long will it be until employers can look up all the information Google has about me? Why would that be necessary? Advertisers don't get any information at all about you and it works.
- swiley 9y agoThese large companies can and do use lock-in with their tools to shape people's lives the way they want. This is the extreme end of where Google wants to be, I hope I'll never end up having to use any more of the things they develop.
- k2xl 9y agoMy initial reaction using Google Jobs search compared to LinkedIn: - Not enough jobs. LinkedIn seems to have more jobs posted for the things I searched for. While many recruiters still post to Indeed, Glassdoor, ZipRecruiter etc... The beef of postings, from my experience, is found on LinkedIn. - Not easy to apply. LinkedIn has the ability to more easily apply. Yes, one could argue this is a bad thing (since companies get spammed with candidates) but I think with AI a lot of bad candidates could get filtered out more easily. - No social network. Since so many professionals use LinkedIn, it's easier to find people you know who work at a company you are applying for. I think this is a long, long way to beating LinkedIn for job search.
- horsecaptin 9y agoWhat about craigslist?
- headmelted 9y agoWhen I read the opening paragraph I was sure this was going to be using Google Lens with street view data to index offline jobs from window postings. Honestly the wording makes me think it just wasn't ready in time for the announcement, although I'm not sure how they'd have up-to-date data. It's one of the few applications of AI over street view data that doesn't utterly creep me out and actually seems quite useful.
- sytelus 9y agoThe Jobs problem is not search problem (i.e. it isn't difficult to discover available jobs) but rather a trust problem. In this setting you have suppliers and consumers with many to many relationship. The good supplier doesn't want to spend their energy in reviewing vast quantity of available consumers. At the same time good consumers don't want to go after every available suppliers. There is also good likelyhood that bad suppliers as well as bad consumers are trying to masquerade as good ones. This is the same setting as dating website or Amazon product website. The solution that humans seem to prefer is somehow build the trust model. In case of Amazon product website, you look at reviews and ratings by others. In case of dating website you look at characteristics that you have learned to trust such as what's in the photos, what person is doing for living, what degrees do they have and so on. In case of jobs, companies look at who is referring to who or if you are already at other top company (which is the reason why most people get jobs because of referrals, not by posting resumes). The trust model is developed individually and can massively be different from person to person. I'm in fact more certain that virtually all companies ignore resumes posted on their website and most interviews happen solely because recruiter actively identified candidate from other similar company/university or referrals. However this may be more true in skilled jobs.
- 65827 9y agoYou're wrong because you can't even get to the "search problem", many of the current popular job boards are such unusable garbage that it's effectively impossible to wade through them and apply to jobs without inadvertently having your data stolen or spyware installed, it's that terrible. Something like monster.com or dice.com is more dangerous than the deep web at this point. As much as I hate Google, someone has to come along and become the authority to put these all in one place and hopefully drive all these terrible sites/recruiters out of business.
- tacostakohashi 9y agoMaybe for you it's a search problem, but for the customer, the person paying the recruitment + advertising fees (the employer), it's a trust problem.
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- Futurebot 9y agoThis factoid should not be uncritically repeated as this blog post does: "At the same time, 46 percent of U.S. employers face talent shortages and have issues filling open positions with the right candidate." "Talk of a skills gap in the labor market is 'an incredible cop out'": http://www.businessinsider.com/no-skills-gap-in-labor-market-as-wages-staganant-2017-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/no-skills-gap-in-labor-market... Doubly so for technology: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/opinion/contributors/2016/02/08/there-no-shortage-stem-workers/79871624/ http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/opinion/contributors/2... https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/stem-still-no-shortage-c6f6eed505c1 https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/stem-still-no-shortage-c6f6eed505...
- pm90 9y ago> Doubly so for technology: I think its very disingenuous to use the reputation of the article to also push for a " no skills shortage in technology" view. The original article is well researched and based on facts, whereas the blog posts you link are not.
- Futurebot 9y agoDisagree that it's disingenuous. Let's try some more: General: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/31/opinion/krugman-jobs-and-skills-and-zombies.html?_r=0 https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/31/opinion/krugman-jobs-and-... http://www.epi.org/publication/shortage-skilled-workers/ http://www.epi.org/publication/shortage-skilled-workers/ Tech: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/04/the-myth-of-americas-tech-talent-shortage/275319/ https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/04/the-myt... More tech: http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-i... Manufacturing: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160815134829.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160815134829.h...
- blairanderson 9y agoOK google, now find me an employer that wants to pay more... Kudos to google, hopefully this helps majority of America find jerbs. most hackernews readers think this is stupid because our industry has different problems. Our jobs problem is: - "employers often lie because they want to pay less than a typical employee is worth" but also at the same time: - "applicants often lie about their experiences and such" So there are 4 quadrants: honest/dishonest applicants and honest/dishonest employers and where they overlap is small. Niche job boards FTW
- ruleabidinguser 9y agois this for trump?
- selllikesybok 9y agoThe interface needs a lot of work. It's feels not just mobile first, but mobile only. Also, maybe I'm just not a typical user, but it would be nice to have some better control over location, or at least indication of how close to the target location each job is.
- rbanffy 9y agoAm I the only one who noticed the vintage Macs that don't belong together the second-gen iPad next to them?
- mcovey 9y agoI searched "jobs near me" in Firefox and saw nothing special. Apparently it only works in Chrome based browsers. Even if I paste the URL of the special jobs result page back into Firefox, I get redirected back to a standard Google results page. https://www.google.com/search?q=jobs+near+me&ibp=htl;jobs https://www.google.com/search?q=jobs+near+me&ibp=htl;jobs Edit: after running "forget about this site" in the history, it now works. I guess some cookie or account setting was blocking it.