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Like many people, I would much prefer an Apple based OS to MS. Feature-parity is not the point. Welcome to Apple in general: Feature parity has never been the p

Like many people, I would much prefer an Apple based OS to MS. Feature-parity is not the point. Welcome to Apple in general: Feature parity has never been the point.

SmellTheGlove 9y ago
OSX compared to Windows, sure. But iOS over Windows? Come on now.
- allover 9y ago
  Depends what you're using it for. If it's mostly tablet-y things (consuming stuff, casual infront-of-TV use), iOS is clearly superior. You can try and tear the iPads from my parents' cold dead hands. If you want to 'get work done', sure you'd have to take Windows over iOS. But then Apple users would be reaching for a Macbook instead. I get why people want 'both' from the Surface, but to an Apple user like me, Windows doesn't appeal for either use-case. I'll take macOS for work and iOS for casual use, and put up with separate devices for now.
  - SmellTheGlove 9y ago
    Right, but this submission is about the iPad Pro announcement, not iPads in general. I have an iPad. It gets used for exactly what you describe. Work gets done on my Macbook. I like iOS on my iPhone. I like OSX on my Macbook. The only thing I'm pushing back on is the idea that iOS (via the iPad Pro) is set to consume my Macbook.
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    - allover 9y ago
      That was not at all clear from your comment.
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  - BatFastard 9y ago
    Why two separate devices when you can do it all on one? Right, so Apple can sell you more over priced hardware.
    - ihuman 9y ago
      I'd rather have 2 devices made for dedicated form factors that play to the pros and cons of said form factor, than a jack of all trades, master of none.
    - allover 9y ago
      I think I just explained why I prefer two separate devices, but to clarify further: I don't like Windows, I prefer a unix-based OS for work, and iOS is a much better tablet OS in my opinion. Also I don't agree with 'over priced hardware'. I tend to find if you look for comparable hardware from other manufacturers the prices are similar (e.g. Samsung S8 vs iPhone, Dell XPS vs Macbook).
      - BatFastard 9y ago
        So the best processor you can get on a macbook pro is an i5. Dell XPS comes with an i7. Same memory, same SSD, Mac has worse graphics card. Mac has soldered in memory. And it 600 bucks more. https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS-15-15-6-Inch-i7-6700HQ/dp/B019PB6X78 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS-15-15-6-Inch-i7-6700HQ/dp/B0... https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro
        mikewhy 9y ago
        On a 13-inch, sure. The 15 inch all have i7 processors. The screen resolution is much higher, they come with double the ram, not a "home OS" (whatever that is), and I'm not sure how an AMD 560m stacks up against an Nvidia 960m. Not to say the MacBook will be cheaper, just pointing out discrepancies in your comparison.
        p1esk 9y ago
  - floatboth 9y ago
    Depends on what kind of work — some very very strong iOS design/photo/graphics apps exist. And music (Audiobus ecosystem).
  - cm2187 9y ago
    Mostly the surface is more of a portable laptop. Slow to wake, short autonomy. Not the kind of thing you charge once a week and can forget in the sofa, and can be turned on instantaneously. Not the same market at all.
- BatFastard 9y ago
  I talk to OSX users all the time aboud OSX vs Win 10, and where they really like OSX?? Is at the command line!
  - stcredzero 9y ago
    Basically, OS X's big win is its quite good integration with the ecosystems that grew up and around the GNU/Unix ecosystem. The lure of a GTX 1070 GPU in a laptop was very strong, but in the end, it was more comfortable for me to run Linux virtually than to use Windows 10 bash. My 2012 Macbook Pro is still more productive than a shiny new Windows 10 laptop.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    I guess you are talking to UNIX refugees using OS X instead of other UNIX alternatives. Majority of OS X users outside that UNIX crowd, barely know where the Terminal.app is located.
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- AdamN 9y ago
  Would definitely choose iOS over Windows any day of the week. Luckily, I can get both macOS and iOS so no worries.
- seanmcdirmid 9y ago
  iOS comes with support for multiple languages. My Surface 3 came with support only for Chinese without even an English option. I had to buy and reinstall a totally different SKU to make it functional for me (and this was an employee purchase program, grumble). I get what you are saying, but when iOS can manage to support more languages than Windows, well, we are in a totally different world these days.
- r00fus 9y ago
  I prefer my parents to have iOS over Windows. Do you think the folks who prefer Chromebooks really value feature parity?

Like many people, I would much prefer an Apple based OS to MS. Feature-parity is not the point. Welcome to Apple in general: Feature parity has never been the point.

SmellTheGlove 9y ago

OSX compared to Windows, sure. But iOS over Windows? Come on now.

allover 9y ago
Depends what you're using it for. If it's mostly tablet-y things (consuming stuff, casual infront-of-TV use), iOS is clearly superior. You can try and tear the iPads from my parents' cold dead hands. If you want to 'get work done', sure you'd have to take Windows over iOS. But then Apple users would be reaching for a Macbook instead. I get why people want 'both' from the Surface, but to an Apple user like me, Windows doesn't appeal for either use-case. I'll take macOS for work and iOS for casual use, and put up with separate devices for now.
- SmellTheGlove 9y ago
  Right, but this submission is about the iPad Pro announcement, not iPads in general. I have an iPad. It gets used for exactly what you describe. Work gets done on my Macbook. I like iOS on my iPhone. I like OSX on my Macbook. The only thing I'm pushing back on is the idea that iOS (via the iPad Pro) is set to consume my Macbook.
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  - allover 9y ago
    That was not at all clear from your comment.
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- BatFastard 9y ago
  Why two separate devices when you can do it all on one? Right, so Apple can sell you more over priced hardware.
  - ihuman 9y ago
    I'd rather have 2 devices made for dedicated form factors that play to the pros and cons of said form factor, than a jack of all trades, master of none.
  - allover 9y ago
    I think I just explained why I prefer two separate devices, but to clarify further: I don't like Windows, I prefer a unix-based OS for work, and iOS is a much better tablet OS in my opinion. Also I don't agree with 'over priced hardware'. I tend to find if you look for comparable hardware from other manufacturers the prices are similar (e.g. Samsung S8 vs iPhone, Dell XPS vs Macbook).
    - BatFastard 9y ago
      So the best processor you can get on a macbook pro is an i5. Dell XPS comes with an i7. Same memory, same SSD, Mac has worse graphics card. Mac has soldered in memory. And it 600 bucks more. https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS-15-15-6-Inch-i7-6700HQ/dp/B019PB6X78 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS-15-15-6-Inch-i7-6700HQ/dp/B0... https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro
      - mikewhy 9y ago
        On a 13-inch, sure. The 15 inch all have i7 processors. The screen resolution is much higher, they come with double the ram, not a "home OS" (whatever that is), and I'm not sure how an AMD 560m stacks up against an Nvidia 960m. Not to say the MacBook will be cheaper, just pointing out discrepancies in your comparison.
        p1esk 9y ago
- floatboth 9y ago
  Depends on what kind of work — some very very strong iOS design/photo/graphics apps exist. And music (Audiobus ecosystem).
- cm2187 9y ago
  Mostly the surface is more of a portable laptop. Slow to wake, short autonomy. Not the kind of thing you charge once a week and can forget in the sofa, and can be turned on instantaneously. Not the same market at all.
BatFastard 9y ago
I talk to OSX users all the time aboud OSX vs Win 10, and where they really like OSX?? Is at the command line!
- stcredzero 9y ago
  Basically, OS X's big win is its quite good integration with the ecosystems that grew up and around the GNU/Unix ecosystem. The lure of a GTX 1070 GPU in a laptop was very strong, but in the end, it was more comfortable for me to run Linux virtually than to use Windows 10 bash. My 2012 Macbook Pro is still more productive than a shiny new Windows 10 laptop.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  I guess you are talking to UNIX refugees using OS X instead of other UNIX alternatives. Majority of OS X users outside that UNIX crowd, barely know where the Terminal.app is located.
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AdamN 9y ago
Would definitely choose iOS over Windows any day of the week. Luckily, I can get both macOS and iOS so no worries.
seanmcdirmid 9y ago
iOS comes with support for multiple languages. My Surface 3 came with support only for Chinese without even an English option. I had to buy and reinstall a totally different SKU to make it functional for me (and this was an employee purchase program, grumble). I get what you are saying, but when iOS can manage to support more languages than Windows, well, we are in a totally different world these days.
r00fus 9y ago
I prefer my parents to have iOS over Windows. Do you think the folks who prefer Chromebooks really value feature parity?