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Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do
- hedgew 9y agoI was never a big fan of Wunderlist, it was too much eye-candy and too few features for me. But it was the best todo app the whole family could use. Support for all platforms, simple list sharing, and the ability to set custom backgrounds and colors.. Not sure what will replace it. Almost certainly not Microsoft To-Do, though. Seems too opinionated for a todo system and lacks critical features.
- dorianm 9y agoIt was a pretty interesting company: http://chadfowler.com http://chadfowler.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunderlist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunderlist
- dannylandau 9y agoReally sad! One of the few web to-do applications that I use daily and really enjoyed.
- mcintyre1994 9y agoI wonder why they didn't just rebrand Wunderlist like they did Accompli (into mobile Outlook).
- blahblah12 9y agoIt's pretty much a replica of the original app. It's being developed by the same team that made Wunderlist as in Chad Fowler and company (he has a larger portfolio now). Most of these comments are probably unnecessary. The original team still works at MSFT The app is simply a rebrand that's trying to add additional features over time. https://www.linkedin.com/in/fowlerchad/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/fowlerchad/
- gorbachev 9y agoIt is not a replica of Wunderlist. I'm a long time Wunderlist user, and Microsoft To-Do only implements a subset of the Wunderlist features. It's close, but several important organizational features, like sub tasks and nested lists/projects are not there.
- mattferderer 9y agoVery similar to what they did with Sunrise. Buy the app & implement a very poor version. I like a lot of Microsoft things but they killed Sunrise & their Outlook app which once was good has become filled with bugs in my experience. I know have to help my wife migrate from Wunderlist. This will not be fun.
- mcintyre1994 9y agoI know it's the same team and I'm sure it'll reach parity/inherit their existing roadmap, but with Accompli they literally just rebranded it Outlook and released as is - complete with support for gmail etc. remaining. I'm just curious why they didn't do the same here, I'm sure there's a good reason and it'd be interesting to hear it.
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- campuscodi 9y agoIf any other news site would submit this article it would be marked as "blog spam" and replaced with the original announcement, which is here: https://blogs.office.com/2017/04/19/introducing-microsoft-to-do-now-available-in-preview/ https://blogs.office.com/2017/04/19/introducing-microsoft-to...
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- TorKlingberg 9y agoThen the headline would get changed to "Introducing Microsoft To-Do—now available in Preview", and everyone would be confused.
- Tehnix 9y agoGoddammit, first Sunrise Calendar and now Wunderlist? :( I feel like I'll just go back to Reminders again, and try to stick with standard clients for these things...
- kevingrahl 9y agoI really miss Sunrise, have you found a good replacement for it?
- manuelflara 9y agoNot OP, but as an iOS alternative I use Fantastical, but lacks several important features that Sunrise had. Still looking for a real alternative.
- mattferderer 9y agoWhich features is it lacking? I'm surprised no one has re-made Sunrise. It was the defacto calendar app until it was bought & killed... I mean migrated into Outlook.
- manuelflara 9y agoFor example, automatically importing events I have on Facebook
- slazaro 9y agoI initially thought that you said they sunset Calendar (Google Calendar) and I freaked out thinking that I'd missed the announcement.
- joshschreuder 9y agoSad news, Wunderlist was very handy. Does anyone have a recommendation for a similar app with shared lists? To-Do doesn't handle this (or a bunch of WL functionality for that matter)
- anlif 9y agoGoogle Keep, as suggested by others here. I'm sceptical though, since I'm using both apps now but feel that they are very complementary. Might just be habit.
- jhasse 9y agoI can recommend https://ticktick.com https://ticktick.com
- CMay 9y agoWunderlist will keep working until Microsoft To-Do has those features. Once they're done implementing those, you can import your Wunderlist and transition over.
- cafebabbe 9y agoOkay i've been fucked by several todos apps now, I think i'll switch to emacs and self-hosting...
- preek 9y agoDid that one year ago and have never been happier with my todo and references setup! Good luck to you^^
- bastih 9y agoEspecially with the Android-Apps that support org-mode, this actually isn't too bad of a setup.
- sametmax 9y agoThe thing is, for something critical, you should not use a software that doesn't have: - an open source self hostable implementation, even if they offer a paid instance to ease your life. - an open format in which you can get your todos entries - an offline client that will still work even if the online instance closes
- cafebabbe 9y agoYup, totally agree. Lesson learned!
- littlehood 9y agoI've started using Standard Notes, but it kind of feels like it's still beta.
- TeddyDD 9y agoThat's why I use todo.txt TaskWarrior and org mode are interesting as well. I have to look into differences between then.
- danieldk 9y agoI have been using org-mode the last few months and I really like it. It easy to get lost in all the possibilities, but it has extremely cool features, for instance: since org is also a markup language, I can just create my slides with Markdown-like markup and export it to e.g. LaTeX beamer. But since any heading can be made a TODO item, I can just mark slides that are not done as TODO and it will show up on my TODO list.
- VladimirGolovin 9y agoDamn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatically-activated contexts (e.g. location), snooze for arbitrary durations, a robust implementation of recurring tasks, and an infinite calendar-like timeline to look ahead. I went full waterfall on it, the spec is 266 pages long and took half a year just to write. I'm currently testing an Android alpha version, and, for me, it works ridiculously well, much better than Wunderlist, which sat on my homescreen since August 2013.
- roryisok 9y agoI do remember Astrid! it was my goto app when I first got a smartphone. I use WP8 day to day but dabble in Android, I'd love to give your app a spin...
- thewhitetulip 9y agoastrid is open source now and available on play store.
- piyush_soni 9y agoAnd then one day a tech giant will contact you for acquisition and ....... :|
- VladimirGolovin 9y agoYes, I'm aware of this problem. First, we're unlikely yo be acqui-hired, because we're based in Russia. Second, I simply don't believe that this app will reach the levels of success similar to Wunderlist or Todoist :))) But I definitely think that there should be a legal way of protecting existing users of an app from "Our Incredible Journey". Maybe some clause that permits the authors to open-source the app. Are there any examples of this in the industry?
- camtarn 9y agoArgh. My partner and I use Wunderlist daily for shared shopping lists. This endless churn of apps shutting down is so frustrating :(
- satysin 9y agoI use Google Keep for this. Works well enough. When Microsoft bought Wunderlist I moved away from it as I guessed it would be replaced by a lesser product (at least initially) and probably folded into Office 365.
- camtarn 9y agoGood tip - cheers. The other alternative I was looking at was Remember The Milk. I guess at least when it's a todo-list app that's shutting down, there are a lot of alternatives to move to!
- mszcz 9y agoRemember The Milk is great. Tried Wunderlist, tried Todoist and always eventually came back to RTM. For me it's the Smart Lists that let me run my own, weird version of GTD ;) Edit: typo
- dorian-graph 9y agoI mustn't be the only who thinks it's ironic to move to a Google product/service in hope of avoiding something disappearing. ;)
- satysin 9y agoHa yeah I know what you mean. I am still angry about Reader. For now at least it seems Google is putting work into Keep so I hope it won't disappear anytime soon. Unfortunately having a todo/notes app that allows for account controlled sharing is tricky to do without some kind of service. Unless you want to get all ghetto and build something that works on top of something like Dropbox but that gets problematic as Dropbox isn't designed to be used that way. I built my own test program that used a protected-shared Google Sheet as its data source but at that point you might as well just use Keep!
- ForFreedom 9y agoI hope To-Do, To-Does better than Wunderlist
- bonaldi 9y agoOh, this is disappointing. Any app launched as a result of killing a long-running service now carries the added risk of "when are you going to kill this, too?". Won't be touching this, have a lot of history in Wunderlist I'll now need to figure out how to move elsewhere.
- mpweiher 9y agoThere's an importer...
- jxi 9y agoFuck, I use Wunderlist and love it. Guess I'm moving away from anything Microsoft buys from now on.
- skrebbel 9y agoDoes anyone here understand the rationale of buying a To-do app company for $100 million and then killing it?
- coldtea 9y ago$100 million for them are like $1K for you. So it's not like they are particularly frugal (or need to be) with those. For what they paid, they got a team that knew how to build a To-Do app, what the challenges are, and how to scale it. So they bought not having to deal with a dev team that is building a to-do app for the first time. They also got some existing users (which will migrate) for free, but I don't think they care for that.
- skrebbel 9y agoWell $1K is a lot of money for me :-) But ok, I see your point. Thanks!
- tptacek 9y agoWunderlist is perhaps the only shared to-do list application that actually works. I don't know about 100MM, but it's an important application --- which is why there's a pretty substantial thread here about MSFT killing it off.
- hliyan 9y agoOh dear, oh dear. I use Wunderlist on Mac, and very recently wrote to my entire team about how I tried so many Todo apps over the years and how Wunderlist is the only thing that worked out. Now what do I do?
- gtf21 9y agoSparrow, Sunrise, Wunderlist... all the good apps just get bought and killed.
- mtkd 9y agoself hosting where possible from now on for me Wunderlist was super useful - fast, all devices in sync, excellent browser version starting to rethink using so many hosted services now - Zerigo is closing too in 10 days - that was another service a lot of time had been invested in setting up it feels like the better a service is the more chance the team gets borged and the app shut down
- karlkatzke 9y agoI get grumpy about cloud services coming and going, and I can imagine how much marketing data we're all providing to Microsoft by sharing our shopping list this way, but then I remember what a pain in the ass hosting my own email was for a decade and what that would be like in this era of massive botnets. Then I put my cane away because as much as I wave it at clouds, I will still use cloud services over having to host my own.
- charlesdm 9y agoCan you blame the developers, though? These acquisitions are life changing. I mean, heck, if someone offered me crazy money for an app, yes please!
- balladeer 9y agoI would say these acquisitions change lives of generations in a family.
- gtf21 9y agoNo, you can't really blame them. One could make the argument that once providing a service to users you have some responsibility towards them, but I don't think it overrides the case for them to be acquired. I can't help feeling that there is something rather dreadful about this state of affairs, however. It just seems like too many good things get acquired and shut down. That could be the fault of the market/culture/prevailing business models/app stores in not making it profitable enough for developers to want to keep going with their single app, and it could also be the fault of the acquires for shutting down good things. I'm unsure as to the solution.
- porker 9y agoBugger. After 5 years of on-off trying todo lists, I'd finally got to like Wunderlist. Now I guess I'm back to Todoist, which I've never felt any affection for.
- dgrabla 9y agoTaskwarrior on Desktop and Taskwarrior + Termux on Android is the most flexible, private, open and lightweight TODO manager I've ever used. No eye candy whatsoever, just pure power. I've been using the combo for a few years now, give it a look.
- thuruv 9y agoHelp in getting it setup?
- mdekkers 9y agoTermux on Android OMG that is AWESOME
- darklajid 9y agoHow do you sync between devices?
- dgrabla 9y agoThe desktop runs a cron job to sync every X minutes with a taskwarrior server on an amazon instance. The cellphone syncs manually, or you can automate a sync installing Taskwarrior for Android. The UI of this Taskwarrior for Android app is not very good for me, but it allows you to sync the taskdata files every X minutes if you want. You only need to make sure to point the app to the termux .task folder so both the Taskwarrior for Android and the Termux + Taskwarrior CLI use the same data files.
- brunoqc 9y agoDo you use a special keyboard like Hacker's Keyboard for Taskwarrior CLI? EDIT: I just found out about the Volume Up+Q thing, maybe I don't need another keyboard. I would prefer it that way so I can swipe when typing new tasks.
- Kaivo 9y agoI configured a SyncThing[1] between my devices with the taskwarrior file included in the synced folder and it's been working well, without having to setup a taskwarrior server. [1] https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/
- darkblackcorner 9y agoWell that sucks. I was just getting used to using Wunderlist. I guess I'll have to give dead trees another try...
- martin_a 9y agoSeems like users need to have an (Office 365/Outlook) account with Microsoft to use To-Do. Big turndown, most of my colleagues are using Macs and have no need for Microsoft (no, not even Office), seems we need to switch (again).
- mdekkers 9y agowhat do you use instead of MSOffice?
- karlkatzke 9y agoGoogle Apps, Keynote, OpenOffice. Combination thereof.
- janaagaard 9y agoYou don't need Office accounts, a Microsoft account is enough. I'm pretty sure they are free. If you switch to another service, there is a change you will have to create users on that service anyways, no?
- arikfr 9y agoIf anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com https://todoist.com
- Etheryte 9y agoThe Todoist sign-up page now has a migration tool: "Coming from Wunderlist? Import your tasks." If that isn't timely reaction to a market need then I don't know what is.
- w4tson 9y agoDone. Cheers! Took 15 mins once I'd faffed about and organised things. Plus the Alexa integration works a charm!
- TuringNYC 9y agoI was initially excited but this was a let-down: >>> The owner of www.todoist.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website. This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that Firefox may only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible to add an exception for this certificate.
- JoshTriplett 9y agoWorks here. Are you behind a broken proxy?
- TuringNYC 9y agoThat's a relief. Wunderlist was wonderful for several reasons: - Windows client - iOS client - OSX/MacOS client - Auto-sync across everything I hope the next thing has all these features, i hear Todoist does!
- damandloi 9y agoOn the sidenote: The new app from Microsoft does not follow its design methodology if bright colors and big icons but seems to go for skeuomorphism.
- _pmf_ 9y agoWhat would the design people at Microsoft or Apple do all day once they have defined a guideline? The only thing that guarantees them jobs is changing the goalposts constantly.
- bostand 9y agoAdd Google to that list. They break so many of their own rules i sometimes wonder if that was what made Duarte leave
- weiluen 9y agoa lot of the acquired teams sort of chart their own destiny. esp, as they get larger and large portfolios.
- weiluen 9y agoa lot of the acquired teams sort of chart their own destiny. esp, as they get larger and large portfolios.
- eptcyka 9y agoIs Microsoft trying to learn React?
- welanes 9y agoFor those looking for a good alternative to Wunderlist, you've got Lanes - https://lanes.io https://lanes.io.
- ilamont 9y agoAccording to Microsoft’s announcement, To-Do starts you off in a screen called “My Day” which offers a list of items that need to get done today. While Wunderlist allows you to see the "Today" view first it's not forced ... it's flexible enough to let people manage their To-do lists in a number of different ways. I have a bunch of general To-do lists in Wunderlist including open-ended ones and ones that I duplicate every week (marking the old version as done) and slowly modify. The "My Day" default does not work for me. The other thing that was great about Wunderlist is the developers really paid attention to Mac and iOS users. I found that the Mac version was better than Windows in a few areas - specifically the ability to expand a note to a bigger view and a lack of buggy behavior when modifying a note (confirmed in Windows 10 but not fixed by Wunderlist, now we know why). In the new setup, Mac/iOS/Android will clearly take a back seat to Windows: As many users realized, some platforms do not yet support To-Do, including Mac, iPad and Android tablet. List sharing is also not available. But Microsoft says these will roll out in time along with other integrations with Microsoft services. Too bad. Wunderlist was a great service, the only To-Do app I ever liked.
- rickyc091 9y agoYep. I just noticed that Microsoft killed the Mac app.
- jamesisaac 9y agoMaybe what some people are looking for in a replacement, this is something I put together: https://nachapp.com https://nachapp.com It isn't multi-user, but does introduce features around tying tasks to larger goals, progress tracking etc. It's also currently just a web app, but at the moment I'm working on native iOS/Android apps.
- blahblah12 9y agoIt's not really killed. The original Sunrise, Accompli and Wunderlist teams still work at MSFT and they're working on their new apps respectively (Javier runs all of Outlook now). And Chad Fowler (former CTO of Wunderlist), and company are behind the pivot to To-Do. It's the exact same application. I've been beta testing it and it just has few additional features that will show up over time. It's really just a rebrand and a skin and a new backend they're trying to rapidly improve. https://www.linkedin.com/in/fowlerchad/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/fowlerchad/ - CTO Wunderlist https://www.linkedin.com/in/jsoltero/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jsoltero/ - Accompli founder https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianreber/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianreber/ - Wunderlist Founder https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierrevalade/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierrevalade/ - founder Sunrise https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremylv/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremylv/ - founder Sunrise/Design They all got promoted really quickly and have large portfolios (including their original apps and teams) , but now with a mandate to fix the other similar core applications, too. If anything, this crop of teams and ppl now run huge portions of Office -- not the other way around. And they're the ones deciding strategic vision. These acquisitions were also acquihires. The CEOs/CTOs have high leadership positions now (they went from Partner GEMs -> CTO/CVPs in about a year or so) and are trying to make all of Office better. I think every time a MSFT article comes up, ppl get in an uproar. Give the company a chance and check your bias at the door.
- uncletaco 9y ago“This, milord, is my family's axe. We have owned it for almost nine hundred years, see. Of course, sometimes it needed a new blade. And sometimes it has required a new handle, new designs on the metalwork, a little refreshing of the ornamentation . . . but is this not the nine hundred-year-old axe of my family? And because it has changed gently over time, it is still a pretty good axe, y'know. Pretty good.” That's what I thought of when you said it's just a rebrand and a skin with a new back end. I mean lets call it what it is, a new app by the wunderlist team that's more oriented towards integration with Microsoft's existing suite of products. So yeah, Wunderlist is dead. Long live its spiritual successor.
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- warholio 9y agoOne of the few major features I'm looking for in a to-do app is the ability to use natural language to set a due date/timer and then get a notification synched across my mac and iPhone. For example: "task xyz in 15 mins". Does anyone know an app that can do this? Todoist is very close -- you can write "task xyz in 2 hours" but for some reason cannot use "minutes".
- rickdg 9y agoSlack reminders
- warholio 9y agoVery cool, thank you, I'll check it out.
- djrogers 9y agoI started using Reminders and Siri for this about 3 years ago and it's been wonderful. I don't need a lot of fancy features like GTD, sub tasks, etc, but I do use a lot of shared lists with the wife (shopping, planning, honey-do, and packing being the 4 primary ones). The combo has been even better since I got my apple watch - you'd be amazed how quietly you can whisper 'hey Siri, remind me to blah in 20 minutes' to your watch...
- mobitar 9y agoThis is why Standard Notes was built. To focus on longevity. Not exactly a todo app, but supports Markdown extensions that allow lists. https://standardnotes.org https://standardnotes.org
- cygned 9y agoI wonder if To-Do will be of the same quality as all the other services you get with Office 365 (they are awful). Looking at their other products, I don't think Microsoft is able to create something as easy to use, reliable and good looking as Wunderlist.
- 0xADADA 9y ago> “I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.” Wunderlist refugees flee the Empire of Microsoft for refuge at sites like https://todoist.com/ https://todoist.com/
- kilroy123 9y agoYeah, looks like I'll have no choice. I've been an avid wunderlist user for a few years now. I never did get into todoist, not like I did with wunderlist. What a disappointment. I didn't even know they had been bought by MSFT.
- joe563323 9y agoNever heard of Wunderlist and sure will not remember To-Do for long.
- devdebug 9y agoI just activated my 1 year subscription I got with humblebundle. I really liked Wunderlist. I hope the new app is improved version of Wunderlist. Importing all tasks in Todoist was quick but To-Do is trying to import for last hour and looks like it is going to fail.
- hysan 9y agoI don't mind switching so long as they achieve feature parity. I love Wunderlist as it's the only todo app that has stuck for me. The one big thing that I've noticed missing is the lack of native desktop apps. For something like a todo app, I much prefer standalone apps over a web app. I hope they release one before shutting Wunderlist.
- 0xADADA 9y agoMy favorite part of Wunderlist was the wood background option, makes a beautiful desktop wallpaper I'm really glad i exported it out: http://imgur.com/Hjajl http://imgur.com/Hjajl
- jgaa 9y agoSomething makes me think about Nokia, and the lessons Microsoft never seems to learn.
- wowtip 9y ago>ZDNet clarified with Microsoft that the app is not just for Office 365 users, as the original blog post about the launch seemed to imply. Instead, anyone with a Microsoft account can use To-Do, even if they don’t have an Office 365 plan, the company confirmed Wonderful. More things that can be lost with a single password.
- criddell 9y agoOh FFS. I just started using Wunderlist this week. All I want is a todo list where I can assign tags. So maybe I would do something like: * buy softener salt #shopping #home * fix garage door weatherstripping #home I can have saved searches for #shopping and #home. That way I don't need folders, I don't need projects. Tags can do it all.
- frou_dh 9y agoUse http://todotxt.com http://todotxt.com -- It's just a plaintext file format. There are a bunch of optional GUI wrappers that are aware of conventions and/or help with grep-ing.
- kossae 9y agoI've been a Wunderlist user for a while, now shopping around for a viable alternative. It's truly amazing how few options there are that match Wunderlist's feature set. It's also truly amazing how "basic" the features I'm looking for should are this day and age, yet there are very few solutions. I don't want a taskwarrior-esque system, although it would meet most/all of my needs, as I share lists with family memebers who are not tech-savvy in the least bit. Of course, this screams side project.
- criddell 9y agoWunderlist does far more than I needed it to do. Somebody else recommended todotxt and that might be what I switch to. It seems mature and solidly in maintenance mode. I like that a lot.
- smichel17 9y agoSimpletask Cloudless might be what you're looking for. It uses todo.txt, which you can sync via Nextcloud (or whatever other provider), and has in my opinion the best functionality of any android todo app. The downside is that its onboarding UX isn't great, and overall it's not as polished as some other todo apps. I've done some work on it in the past and would like to find time to do more in the future. https://github.com/mpcjanssen/simpletask-android https://github.com/mpcjanssen/simpletask-android
- ziikutv 9y agoIs it just me or all apps now seem to either use.. * Material design * Apple-like design * Dropbox-like design Even when I goto Dribble, its the same thing, different colors. And the worse thign is, even when I am designing something. I conform to that norm!
- amyjess 9y agoIMO, when you're designing for a platform, it's distasteful to use anything other than that platform's UX. Ideally, all Android apps should use Material Design, and all iOS apps should look like they were made by Apple (does Apple have a name for their design?).
- ziikutv 9y agoThat makes sense but I was talking about general branding and even what the website looks like on desktop. It's one thing about keeping a consistent UX vs following what, due to its nature, becomes a "standard" UI
- penpapersw 9y agoThere's plenty of full-featured Todo list apps, but what's really missing is a quick & easy todo app that's got just the right amount of features. Using Reminders and Notes for this feels clunky and awkward, and using a more full-featured todo app makes it hard to just get right to making a quick & dirty list. Plus usually todo apps have weird design choices. Like, having a checkbox ticked for completed items brings more attention to them than to the remaining items, even though it's the remaining items that are most important to the user. Strange and unhelpful UI/UX choice, and it's so standard that even MS's new To-Do app does this! So we decided to make an app that fills that niche, Accomplish[1]. We've barely started marketing it yet, but I have high hopes for this app because it feels like a very much untapped and overlooked market. [1] http://penandpapersoftware.com/accomplish/ http://penandpapersoftware.com/accomplish/
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- rvanmil 9y agoI wonder, does buying users actually work? Doesn't this backfire more often than not? I've been a happy Wunderlist Pro customer, but there is no way I'll be switching to this new To-Do application just because Microsoft decided to replace one with the other. It's kind of funny and sad at the same time from my perspective. Microsoft actually paid someone so in turn they could make me angry and as a result lose me as a paying customer.
- balladeer 9y agoSo after seeing a comment on this post I googled and found out Taskwarrior[0] could be a good replacement for Wunderlist (as I am looking for one since yesterday). Full of enthusiasm I SSHed into my VPS (Ubuntu 15.04 - haven't upgraded yet) and ran sudo apt-get install task and bingo! It was there. I could add tasks and list them in the remote shell, modify them. Then I went to https://freecinc.com https://freecinc.com and followed their awesome 1 minute guide and finished the steps except the last one task sync init which would have made the syncing, to other clients, possible. This is when I got Taskwarrior was built without GnuTLS support. Sync is not available. Landed on https://taskwarrior.org/docs/taskserver/troubleshooting-sync.html https://taskwarrior.org/docs/taskserver/troubleshooting-sync... and I could figure out I had to install it from source (though it was the minimum recommended version) and then also install many dependencies for the sync feature to work from source. I am ashamed to state that after some more tinkering I still couldn't make it work and I gave up. This is one reason self hosted services are not picking up. I know it's just an excuse for lazy and non-adventrous fellows like me (a developer at that) but I tried and I failed. Sigh Just in case others find the app interesteing: check out https://taskwarrior.org/tools/ https://taskwarrior.org/tools/ and you can always use Dropbox anyway (which may not always work as one may expect it to). edit: as of now I am trying https://inthe.am/getting-started https://inthe.am/getting-started [0] https://taskwarrior.org https://taskwarrior.org
- AJRF 9y agoI've used ToDo on web and iOS and it has horrific problems syncing data. Inexcusable really.
- dnr 9y agoI've tried a variety of todo apps over the years, but could never really get into any of them. They all seem overly complicated and heavyweight. Recently I discovered what I really need are simple lists and hierarchy. That is, Dynalist or Workflowy. https://dynalist.io/ https://dynalist.io/ https://workflowy.com/ https://workflowy.com/ Workflowy came first, Dynalist is very similar, but is more actively developed and probably has more features at the moment, so I'd recommend that one. I keep a "short term todo" list as the top item in my "personal" list, and longer-term todos grouped by category below that. The wonderful part is that I can add sub-tasks, or just notes, or groupings, with the same mechanism. All the information is right there and I don't have to think too hard about it. And I can use the same app for notes and other types of lists. Both support things like tags and due dates, but aren't in your face about them. Personally I hardly ever use those features, though it's nice to know they're there in case I suddenly become more organized. Sharing too. Obviously, this may not work for everyone, but for engineer types who love recursive structure, the simple hierarchical list model is pretty awesome. (Not affiliated with either product, just a happy user.)
- AngeloAnolin 9y agoLots of To-Do apps paraded here. I'd plug this in. Very well made [0]. [0] https://teuxdeux.com/ https://teuxdeux.com/
- theseanstewart 9y agoI don't understand why they would announce To-Do without a sharing feature. It's something that all basic todo apps can handle.
- minton 9y agoWe need a list of founders who have sold out to large companies that have eventually closed the product down. This would be worth consulting to see who's behind a new app before trying it.
- RobSim 9y agoI'll throw my 2 cents in here for 2Do, which is basically a power user todo app with multiple sync options including iCloud, Dropbox, etc. Give it a shot!
- hexsprite 9y agoI think the beauty of Wunderlist came from it's simplicity. On another note, I think that for most busy people mere to-do lists are passé. It's too easy for things to fall through the cracks, to create overwhelming lists where nothing is prioritized. What you need is an auto-scheduling planner that turns your to-do list into a schedule in your calendar. And then if you don't finish things, they move forward in priority order until you get it done. Gives you smart reminders only when you have free time. If that sounds interesting to you check out Focuster http://focuster.com http://focuster.com We're bootstrapped and having a great time listening to customers and building a product whose time has come.
- taksintikk 9y agoWish Evernote added a to-do feature. Hate jumping to multiple apps for such a basic need.
- edditoria 9y agoSo sad and need to find/create an alternative. For me, Wunderlist is well done in offline access, super fast sync and a battery-friendly Mac app. I sometimes work in some place that does not allow internet connection, e.g. warehouse where phone signal is screwed, or some meeting rooms just block the signal due to their privacy. In many years I still cannot find an alternative. May be Evernote(?)
- johnchristopher 9y agoI tried it for a few minutes and it seems the UI to change themes is broken. Oh, well. I'll keep using Google 's reminders.