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How a weapon against war became a weapon against the web
- mirimir 10y agoSo FloodNet was the ancestor of LOIC?
- dorianm 10y agoI would be curious what a decentralized Cloudflare would look like. Right now it seems like they are the main player against attackers online
- smokeyj 10y agoThe closest us probably IPFS or Storj at the moment. I'm sure there's other players.
- BuuQu9hu 10y agoDDoS continues to look like an economic problem; we should not have grown used to the idea that small amounts of bandwidth are effectively a free good.
- Terr_ 10y agoIt isn't so much bandwidth-in-general, but specific paths. Namely, the ones which funnel into the target.
- 3pt14159 10y agoReally what we need is some kind of trust net built onto our information pathways. It might leak privacy a bit, but realistically speaking privacy doesn't really exist right now anyway, and the truly paranoid will always have a way to get their basic stuff done.
- the8472 10y agoOr the lack of distributed networks. If available bandwidth for serving content scaled with demand for it it would be more difficult to attack it.
- x1798DE 10y agoHow would that work for malicious nodes in a distributed network? A torrent will be DoSed if there are 10,000 leechers for every seeder.
- killin_dan 10y agoJust set your peer limit to a small number. Your client shouldn't be connected to more than a couple peers at a time, and the tracker should be able to make sure you can find good peers.
- tw04 10y agoThe same way private trackers already work. You don't seed, you quickly get banned.
- the8472 10y agoyou are assuming that torrents only work when there are seeders, but that's not true at all. Seeders simply provide surplus bandwidth, allowing a torrent to operate on altruism. In the worst case where almost everyone is downloading it degrades into tit-for-tat behavior where everyone gets as much as others are willing to provide based on their current contribution, which still scales with the number of downloaders. Maybe I should have mentioned one other condition. The network must be distributed and consist of nodes with symmetric bandwidth. If you have symmetric bandwidth you can upload as fast as you download and thus on average the network won't need altruistic nodes to saturate everyone's downlink. We could go even further and demand ISP-local source-specific multicast, then you would have massive bandwidth multiplication for uploaders, making it trivial to replicate popular content. Alas, that seems to be a pipe dream.
- x1798DE 10y ago
- z3t4 10y agoi speculate, putting kidz in jail for hacking, made room for the criminals. But hacking is still childs play. it was a long time since i saw "hacked by" on a web site, now the hacks are silent, and the servers are used as drones by criminals to make money.