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- I'm not paying money to have needle injecting chemicals with unexplored potential (longterm) side effects into my private parts when the potential success rat

by wayn3 10y ago

- I'm not paying money to have needle injecting chemicals with unexplored potential (longterm) side effects into my private parts when the potential success rate is that of a condom. Condoms kind of work. - "The pill" is a bit more than just a contraceptive. A variety of issues, ranging from skin problems to hormonal imabalances are regulated through the pill, which quite efficiently normalizes outliers in female hormone levels alongside acting as a contraceptive. The pill is rarely "just" a contraceptive. It reduces menstrual pain significantly and allows women to forego the pleasure of planning for a week of unnecessary discomfort every month. Every woman I've been sufficiently intimate with to have such conversations describes the daily pill as a small price to pay for all the benefits it comes with. A male vasectomy is 800 bucks and certainly reversible.

voxic11 10y ago
On the other hand every girl I've been sufficiently intimate with has told me they don't use the pill because it causes the exact issues you describe it helping. The pill is not for everyone.
torrent-of-ions 10y ago
Many women also have problems with hormonal birth control. It essentially changes their character every day which many are not comfortable with. There are numerous cases of women no longer finding their partners attractive after stopping the pill. On top of that it's really bad for the environment. While some women might take it for the side effects, many don't, and they would be better off not taking it.
nailer 10y ago
The previous "male pill" side effects included inability to maintain an erection. Which makes coitus somewhat difficult.
- thinkmilitant 10y ago
  Well, that is one way to prevent unwanted pregnancy...
radec 10y ago
I've known a lot of women to stop taking hormonal birth control because of the side effects. Everything you stated are definitely the potential positive effects of hormonal birth control, but it certainty isn't the actual experience for a lot of women. I'm male and would gladly to take a birth control that doesn't effect me on a hormonal level, especially if it meant my partner could could stop taking a hormonal birth control. Also just of respect of sharing the burden, sounds like it would be way easier to have this injected into my vas deferens and last 13+ years then to have to remember to take a pill every day.
MacsHeadroom 10y ago
The successful vasectomy reversal rate is less than 20%. That is not "certainly reversible."
creepydata 10y ago
Stop your patronizing bullshit! I have taken the pill for years I feel like I am ruining my body. I have side effects. I switched brands, I switched to the shot (that was much worse), every one is awful. I put up with it because I won't risk unwanted pregnancy. It's the less of two very evil evils. You're also ignoring the large population of women who the pill is contraindicated for. It also requires regular doctor visits and requires you to to remember to take it. I'm not saying it's great for some women, it certainly is. People also take it for non contraceptive reason. Not great for everyone and not for me.
- Dylan16807 10y ago
  Being wrong about side effects is not the same as being patronizing.
  - orthecreedence 10y ago
    His tone is very "Male contraceptive is ridiculous because it already works just fine for women! Here's some shitty anecdotal evidence to support my claim!" I'd classify that as patronizing, and as a male, I had the same reaction to his comment as the responder...I've known lots of women, partners included, who avoided the pill because of its horrible side effects.
    - Dylan16807 10y ago
      I don't get that tone. He suggested a vasectomy was good too. The critique of this method was only the effectiveness, not that it was unnecessary. There's a lot wrong in the comment but I don't see what you see in it.
- Loomie 10y ago
  Have you considered getting a copper IUD? I switched to it 8 years ago (I'm 29) and I'll never look back. The side effects of the pill weren't so bad for me but they were enough to get the feeling it's not a good thing to mess with the hormones in my body, and I'm not good at remembering to take a pill every single day. Having my normal cycle back and not having to worry about my contraception for whole years is so worth the discomfort when inserting/changing it.
SamBam 10y ago
Forgetting your comments on the pill, I'm glad you say that condoms and vasectomies would work for you, but did you consider that you might not be representative of all males? For my part, as a man who is done with having kids, but is not ready to get the "snip" yet, a side-effect free injection would be greatly preferable to an operation that sometimes takes months to fully-heal from, or a lifetime of condoms.

by wayn3 10y ago

voxic11 10y ago

On the other hand every girl I've been sufficiently intimate with has told me they don't use the pill because it causes the exact issues you describe it helping. The pill is not for everyone.

torrent-of-ions 10y ago

Many women also have problems with hormonal birth control. It essentially changes their character every day which many are not comfortable with. There are numerous cases of women no longer finding their partners attractive after stopping the pill. On top of that it's really bad for the environment. While some women might take it for the side effects, many don't, and they would be better off not taking it.

nailer 10y ago

The previous "male pill" side effects included inability to maintain an erection. Which makes coitus somewhat difficult.

thinkmilitant 10y ago
Well, that is one way to prevent unwanted pregnancy...

radec 10y ago

I've known a lot of women to stop taking hormonal birth control because of the side effects. Everything you stated are definitely the potential positive effects of hormonal birth control, but it certainty isn't the actual experience for a lot of women. I'm male and would gladly to take a birth control that doesn't effect me on a hormonal level, especially if it meant my partner could could stop taking a hormonal birth control. Also just of respect of sharing the burden, sounds like it would be way easier to have this injected into my vas deferens and last 13+ years then to have to remember to take a pill every day.

MacsHeadroom 10y ago

The successful vasectomy reversal rate is less than 20%. That is not "certainly reversible."

creepydata 10y ago

Stop your patronizing bullshit! I have taken the pill for years I feel like I am ruining my body. I have side effects. I switched brands, I switched to the shot (that was much worse), every one is awful. I put up with it because I won't risk unwanted pregnancy. It's the less of two very evil evils. You're also ignoring the large population of women who the pill is contraindicated for. It also requires regular doctor visits and requires you to to remember to take it. I'm not saying it's great for some women, it certainly is. People also take it for non contraceptive reason. Not great for everyone and not for me.

Dylan16807 10y ago
Being wrong about side effects is not the same as being patronizing.
- orthecreedence 10y ago
  His tone is very "Male contraceptive is ridiculous because it already works just fine for women! Here's some shitty anecdotal evidence to support my claim!" I'd classify that as patronizing, and as a male, I had the same reaction to his comment as the responder...I've known lots of women, partners included, who avoided the pill because of its horrible side effects.
  - Dylan16807 10y ago
    I don't get that tone. He suggested a vasectomy was good too. The critique of this method was only the effectiveness, not that it was unnecessary. There's a lot wrong in the comment but I don't see what you see in it.
Loomie 10y ago
Have you considered getting a copper IUD? I switched to it 8 years ago (I'm 29) and I'll never look back. The side effects of the pill weren't so bad for me but they were enough to get the feeling it's not a good thing to mess with the hormones in my body, and I'm not good at remembering to take a pill every single day. Having my normal cycle back and not having to worry about my contraception for whole years is so worth the discomfort when inserting/changing it.

SamBam 10y ago

Forgetting your comments on the pill, I'm glad you say that condoms and vasectomies would work for you, but did you consider that you might not be representative of all males? For my part, as a man who is done with having kids, but is not ready to get the "snip" yet, a side-effect free injection would be greatly preferable to an operation that sometimes takes months to fully-heal from, or a lifetime of condoms.