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After having tried both I'm very much in the WWW camp. Even though the naked domain looks nicer, it's just not worth the hassle. > End users save an extra DNS
by zimbatm 10y ago
After having tried both I'm very much in the WWW camp. Even though the naked domain looks nicer, it's just not worth the hassle.
> End users save an extra DNS lookup
Most intermediate resolvers will return both the CNAME and A record in one response anyways.
Another issue with naked domains is that all the cookies are automatically served on subdomains as well. It's just another hassle to worry about when trying to keep the cdn clean or wondering why a session works only in specific cases.
- tradersam 10y agoSo you're "very much" in the WWW camp but you don't even use it on your own site. Curious.
- aidos 10y agoThat's a slightly strange personal attack. Their site may be one of the ones where they tried the naked domains.
- tradersam 10y agoIt wasn't a personal attack, literally only an observation.
- Dylan16807 10y agoThe way you word the statement and then append "Curious." makes it somewhat hostile. It's a callout, not just an observation. "I'm curious why you say you're 'very much' in the WWW camp but you don't use it on your own site." would not have the same tendency to register as an attack.
- gkya 10y agoThat's just a comment written in a second or two, not a verse from the bible. No need to dissect it this deep. If this is hostile, asking "how are you" is too, implying one may be in bad shape.
- joslin01 10y agoIf it's a comment written in a second or two, is it worth posting? It was definitely a call-out as indicated by the finality of "Curious"; it could have been asked very matter-of-factly if he was actually curious.
- tene 10y agoAs a contradicting opinion, by my conversational standards, the comment reads as just an observation that this is curious, and an implication that the poster would be interested in more information. It does not read at all like an attack to me.
- astrobe_ 10y agoSome/Many posters here are not native speakers. There's no English conversational standard on the Internet.
- tene 10y agoYes, that's why I was explicit that I was discussing my personal conversational standards that reflect my personal history, which is different from yours. As you point out, there are people from a wide variety of backgrounds on the internet, and part of participating in the internet is understanding this and expecting it. When you see something that you might think is hostile, it's often more productive to give them the benefit of the doubt and presume that they intended good faith but have different conversational norms from you. In the best case, they meant well, and everything proceeds nicely. In the slightly worse case, they didn't mean well, but you've helped de-escalate, and things are back on track for a nice discussion. In the worst case, they get more blatant in their attacks, and at least you'll find out that productive discussion wasn't possible anyway. Not much downside, and lots of upside, in my experience.
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- z3t4 10y agoSome domains just sound much better without the www. You should weight the advantages vs disadvantages ...
- mod 10y agoSometimes you have to make the mistake to know it was one. I wouldn't trust his opinion if he had never tried non-www.
- zimbatm 10y agoYes basically this is the main reason. I could change it but I have better things to do. Also my www recommendation is for commercial websites who tend to have multiple subdomains, more traffic with HA requirements, and a more complex setup than a static website.
- z3t4 10y agoConnection limits to CDN from naked domain might also be limited. Can anyone confirm ? Ex: if browser limit is 2 connections per host, bare + sub will only give 2 connections, while sub + sub will give 4 connections. If you are using Websockets or AJAX the connection limit can become an issue. Also some users always write www in front of the domain. Although some browsers will just redirect to Google. So if you check browser referer a lot will be from www.google.com?q=www.yourdomain.com
- bobfunk 10y agoWith HTTP2 support this is not longer really a problem, since HTTP2 multiplexes requests over 1 connection.
- jrochkind1 10y agoI think few web apps (aka software driven sites, not just static content) use http2 yet.
- aidos 10y agoI believe the Chrome connections per host is now 6 (even under old school http). Not sure about the other browsers.
- Klathmon 10y agoI believe most are 6 and have been for at least a few years.