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‘Honeypot’ pages to try to convert people searching for cracked software

150 points by charlieirish 10y ago

notahacker 10y ago
I think the threat mentioned in the comments of Google algorithmically flagging your site as a warez/malware distribution site and downgrading the main page in search results could be a real one. Of course the obvious solution to this is to go stick your "cracks are often malware or don't work, why not buy the real thing for only $xx" honeypot on a different domain, probably social media.
- eric_h 10y ago
  Putting it on a different domain would likely make the SEO much more difficult. It's unlikely you could keep it as the first result as no authoritative sites for those keywords would link to it.
  - derefr 10y ago
    Rather than making a honeypot page, you can actually make a honeypot crack (or pre-cracked app) and upload it to torrent sites. I've seen a few apps do this.
    - popinman322 10y ago
      This is one of the best suggestions I've seen in this thread. Not only does it let you get the message out, but it also lets you track the proportion of licensed/cracked software in circulation. If your cracked versions overwhelm licensed versions, you know that your price is too high.
milesrout 10y ago
>Feel free to make a version of the page for your own product, but please don’t copy the exact wording. That would be copyright infringement. ;0) To be honest this sort of attitude is why many people have little or no respect for copyright. They see people being sticklers for copyright about things that are completely unreasonable to be copyrighted and extrapolate that essentially copyright is stupid and should be ignored. Same thing for patents. Yeah in reality patents and copyright have their place, but every time someone uses a ridiculous patent or an overly aggressive interpretation of copyright, it turns people off from the entire concept.
- amelius 10y ago
  See this comment: > Mine is a mostly word-for-word copy and dates Aug 2015. But as I recall the original was Dexter Bell, who offered this up on the ASP newsgroups and encouraged copying. But as with many other things I may be wrong! And then the author's response: > I think I copied the idea, not the wording. But it was 10 years ago and I don’t recall exactly. Your page is different enough to mine that it isn’t a problem.
- SyneRyder 10y ago
  > They see people being sticklers for copyright about things that are completely unreasonable to be copyrighted There's at least one good reason in this case - duplicating the wording exactly is likely to result in a Google Duplicate Content penalty for everyone involved, which defeats the purpose of trying to get a high ranking on that keyphrase. I'm not sure the page is a good idea in general, the kind of people who look for cracks are probably not good customers (high support load, unwilling to spend money). I think I tried something similar years ago without success. But it's probably worth an experiment.
  - sersi 10y ago
    Well when I was a poor student with not much money and pirated software, I've been shamed once to buy a software (I think it was from Panic) when I got a message after entering a blacklisted serial number. So, anecdotally, it does seem to work on some people. But then, as soon as I started working and had money I stopped pirating software so my pirating was mostly due to circumstances.
- averagewall 10y ago
  Ironically, he seems to have pirated it himself, which makes the copyright claim even more insulting. PerfectTablePlan: "If you like PerfectTablePlan enough to go searching for a crack for it then why not just buy it? It's a lot less hassle and you won't risk infecting your computer with viruses, spyware and other malware commonly disguised as software cracks." Dplot: "If you like DPlot enough to go searching for a crack for it then why not just buy it? It is a lot less hassle and you won't risk infecting your computer with viruses, spyware and other malware commonly disguised as software cracks." There's a bit of rewording in the middle but it's mostly copy and pasted from the other guy's or the common source.
omn1 10y ago
I would add a picture of the team behind the software to this page. Makes it a bit more personal. Also I would place the second paragraph at the beginning for the same reason.
jimmies 10y ago
When searching for the crack, it means someone thinks that the software isn't worth the value being asked (or they might not have any way to pay). The honeypot page doesn't provide anything useful to the question. I think scaring customers who are looking for cracks with "you're sooooo gonna get malware, stop doing that" sounds a bit cheap and might turn some away. Having that page sounds like a smug idea to 'outsmart' the customers (which I think is dangerous). It gives the impression 'ahaha I knew you will do this, caught ya' -- you're trying too hard like a car salesman. Best case, they grudgingly pay for your shit. What probably will happen is that they click back and move to the next result. There might be some actual, helpful solutions to the customer given you are facing a customer trying to save a buck: 1. Actually giving them a discount: Providing a discounted license. Giving them a student discount. Providing a reduced/lite mode/ad-enabled license (for example, powered by... on the printed cards). Providing WinRAR-style functionality. Extending their trial period. Actually offering them a way to email you to ask for a free license and explain why they can't afford or pay for it. 2. Showing a cheaper (but inferior, possibly) software/solution that does the same thing as the thing you're trying to sell. 3. Showing the customer a way to DYI. After trying 2 or 3 and the customer concluded to themselves "fuck it, it sucks even more for me to try saving a couple of bucks than to buy this outright," then there is a chance they might actually be happy to buy it.
- kkirsche 10y ago
  This is accurate and the best option in my opinion
- superasn 10y ago
  While I agree with your ideas but isn't giving them a discount = rewarding bad behavior? It just gives the wrong idea and is unfair to other customers.
  - jimmies 10y ago
    Companies selling stuff much more expensive for the early adopters because they know the customers are willing to pay for it. As long as you're making profit, you should sell to everyone at the maximum price they're willing to pay for. Selling something = maximizing profit or sales, not "making it fair for everyone." You'll see it a lot of that in Kickstarter's tiered-reward structure or processors being sold nowadays. If a person values my software at $100 and 5 others value it at $20, I am better off selling it for all of them and get $200. If I had wanted to make it fair for everyone I have to set it at $100 which I will get $100, or $20 and get $120. To give people the impression that I am making it fair to everyone is not hard. I just produce different "editions" of the same software. But under the hood, I don't think it is about making it fair.
OJFord 10y ago
This is titled 'Why you should ...' but the content is just 'You should ...'
- chops 10y ago
  > I have averaged a sale per month for the last 10 years from people clicking through onto this page. That might be enough of a "Why" to justify the title.
- dang 10y ago
  That first phrase has three pieces of linkbait and the second only two. We changed the title above to representative language from the article.
  - OJFord 10y ago
    Thanks - the title here now is much better, to be clear though I wasn't criticising mods or OP here, since it was verbatim the linked article. :)
arielm 10y ago
I think the _idea_ of a honeypot page is great because it gives you a chance to re-engage with a potential user (not necessarily customer). There's obviously more than one way to style it, but just like every good marketing how you present it should fit your product/brand. Personally, I think the page should talk more about the "why" you should pay this guy (who works hard on it, bla bla bla) and less about scaring you into paying, because most people who know what a crack is aren't really scared away by the mention of malware.
- thr0waway1239 10y ago
  I think the software creator is also going to be facing another issue: this seems only one step away from creating an actual malware version and releasing it on the internet. That is not an impression you want to leave on your potential customers. The second problem is that you might now open yourself up to differentiation from competitors who can now claim they don't create 'manipulative' honeypot pages and thus gain attention to themselves in the worst way possible for this author - by taking a seemingly high moral ground.
SerLava 10y ago
>Some stuff to keep the search engines happy: crack, cracks, hack, serial numbers, keygen, torrent, warez, licence, license, registration codes, full version download. Just a note, this might work when you have a very small audience and not a lot of strong online competition for this topic. PerfectTablePlan isn't exactly Microsoft Word. The fact that you ARE PerfectTablePlan is also a huge contributing factor to this page being #1. But if you try this in a competitive space, the swift hand of Google will come to crush you. Basically right now, Google is saying "Okay this page does mention these words, and their site has a ton of brand authority for PerfectTablePlan, but Goddamnit they are spamming and if I can put a non-spammer up front, I will." I really like this as a general anti-warez tactic though.
lexap 10y ago
This works great for coupon seekers for SaaS and eCommerce businesses too.
bborud 10y ago
Not everyone that is looking for cracked software does it because they wouldn't pay. Some do it because the vendor is useless at actually selling them the software. On 3-4 occasions over the last 7-8 years I have been trying to buy a legal copy of Windows, download it to my Mac and then install it in VMWare. Every time this has been a situation where I just needed to OS to run some piece of software to fix a problem there and then and I didn't have time to wait for physical medium or there were no shops carrying Windows near by. For instance when I need to adjust the idle-parameters on the engine of one of my cars that has a specialty ECU. I have _never_ succeeding in buying a downloadable Windows in any of these situations. Not a single time. Microsoft has made such a big mess out of it each and every time I gave up and then found some pirated Windows that I could boot for one time use and then throw away. A couple of days ago I was trying to buy Microsoft Office. The reason was that I needed to fix a problem in a document and none of the other software I had would deal with that feature. So I go to the Microsoft website. After noodling around for 3-4 minutes I'm still confused what product I really want to buy. I want the cheapest possible alternative that doesn't require me to register for this and that and which will defecate unwanted stuff all over my laptop. In the middle of the checkout process a popup asks me if I want alerts when there are new products or some similar bullshit. In the checkout process! If there is one place you should take care not to upset the user it is while the user is handing over his or her money to you. I am continually amazed at how bad Microsoft are at this. I understand that Satya Nadella is a busy man, but I would take time out of my day, walk over to whomever is responsible for Microsoft's online retail and fire the moron responsible for it. All the software I use I have licensed. Some of it even though I'm not even required to license it, just because I want to support those who make it. But perhaps once per year I use unlicensed copies of software perhaps once. And it is almost always due to incompetence on part of the vendor.
- kilroy123 10y ago
  Can you not just download and use one of these vms? https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/ https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/v...
  - 10y ago
id122015 10y ago
Its not about honeypot its about price. Few days ago I saw a page here linking to a software for simple image editing, I think it was PhotoBulk. I downloaded the trial, it does what i need, sells for $9. I googled for a serial and it doesnt exist, except malware websites. I searched for freeware alternatives and there are so many, Ill have to find some time to inspect which does the job. Didnt include shell batch scripts, there are dozen of those. The lesson is: if that software advertised here sold for 1 or 2 dolars I'd buy it. I could buy it for $9 as well, but I could do that only once. Tomorrow I cant pay again $9 for other software because this cycle of instaling software never ends and I dont produce money. I have not been employed for a long time. So that honeypot page would be useless.
- GauntletWizard 10y ago
  I had the exact opposite reaction. $9? That's a steal. Many pieces of software are needlessly bloated in price. If I'm going to use it once for a few hours, $40 doesn't seem worth it. On the other hand, if it saves me an hour, $9 is totally worth it - it's less than I'd have had to pay a minimum wage person to do it for me. On the other hand, I'd love to see more people respect the shareware model. Give most or all features for free, encourage people to drop $5-10 in a hat to pay you back. I'm a firm believer in patreon and PayPal tip jars, though I know that they don't work at present for what I believe are cultural reasons. People (rightly) don't trust free, assume that there's some ulterior motive.
- joatmon-snoo 10y ago
  People downvoting this are missing a huge point. Sure, 9$ is a much better price than what other products are sold for, and you and I might find 9$ perfectly reasonable. That doesn't mean Joe Schmoe who's between jobs and is milking the dregs of his savings has 9$ to drop. It sure as heck doesn't mean that if Joe needs to use A, B, and C, and they're 9$ apiece that he can still afford to pay for all of them.
Qwertious 10y ago
Alternatively, why not have a "honeypot" site that asks for feedback on why the person is pirating it?
- hermitcrab 10y ago
  Because the feedback would be "I want to use your software, but I don't want to pay for it"?
timthelion 10y ago
Seems that the sentence "For a one-off fee of $29.95/£19.95/€26.95 is it worth the risk?" should be re-written... http://www.perfecttableplan.com/html/crack.html http://www.perfecttableplan.com/html/crack.html
imode 10y ago
I don't think anybody is going to pirate your wedding planner software. you being smug about something you have no control over (re: piracy) is also not going to do anything either.
Pica_soO 10y ago
Oh, no.. this surely will not be another bad site, where company's upload virus infected ripped software and torrents to movies in continuously worsening quality. And surely the reeducation camp will succeed this time. Is it really so tough to accept the simple fact that entertainment (games) is like a lot of other industrys (nuclear power, bread) a half socialized industry - meaning the state will intervene on shortage and pricespikes. Absolutely noone of those politicians you get to meet as lobbyist at fency dinner partys has a real interest on reducing tv-show and games piracy. The day they would close the Consolecolosseum, because those plebeians did not pay the entrance ticket - there would be a riot to end all riots. Sure you can turn your back to the bloody show, and preach to the good in man sitting on the ranks for entertainment. The industries assembled here have taken alot of those "none"-customers there jobs. Now want to take there free entertainment and there food, while they wait for the lifes to drop to zero? I want it written down into the Pre-Revolution-Chronicles that i did not support this madness.
hartator 10y ago
> Some stuff to keep the search engines happy: crack, cracks, hack, serial numbers, keygen, torrent, warez, licence, license, registration codes, full version download. I think it's against Google TOS to be that explicit. A better alternative will be "Related Keywords:" without metioning search engines.

150 points by charlieirish 10y ago

I think the threat mentioned in the comments of Google algorithmically flagging your site as a warez/malware distribution site and downgrading the main page in search results could be a real one. Of course the obvious solution to this is to go stick your "cracks are often malware or don't work, why not buy the real thing for only $xx" honeypot on a different domain, probably social media.

eric_h 10y ago
Putting it on a different domain would likely make the SEO much more difficult. It's unlikely you could keep it as the first result as no authoritative sites for those keywords would link to it.
- derefr 10y ago
  Rather than making a honeypot page, you can actually make a honeypot crack (or pre-cracked app) and upload it to torrent sites. I've seen a few apps do this.
  - popinman322 10y ago
    This is one of the best suggestions I've seen in this thread. Not only does it let you get the message out, but it also lets you track the proportion of licensed/cracked software in circulation. If your cracked versions overwhelm licensed versions, you know that your price is too high.

milesrout 10y ago

>Feel free to make a version of the page for your own product, but please don’t copy the exact wording. That would be copyright infringement. ;0) To be honest this sort of attitude is why many people have little or no respect for copyright. They see people being sticklers for copyright about things that are completely unreasonable to be copyrighted and extrapolate that essentially copyright is stupid and should be ignored. Same thing for patents. Yeah in reality patents and copyright have their place, but every time someone uses a ridiculous patent or an overly aggressive interpretation of copyright, it turns people off from the entire concept.

amelius 10y ago
See this comment: > Mine is a mostly word-for-word copy and dates Aug 2015. But as I recall the original was Dexter Bell, who offered this up on the ASP newsgroups and encouraged copying. But as with many other things I may be wrong! And then the author's response: > I think I copied the idea, not the wording. But it was 10 years ago and I don’t recall exactly. Your page is different enough to mine that it isn’t a problem.
SyneRyder 10y ago
> They see people being sticklers for copyright about things that are completely unreasonable to be copyrighted There's at least one good reason in this case - duplicating the wording exactly is likely to result in a Google Duplicate Content penalty for everyone involved, which defeats the purpose of trying to get a high ranking on that keyphrase. I'm not sure the page is a good idea in general, the kind of people who look for cracks are probably not good customers (high support load, unwilling to spend money). I think I tried something similar years ago without success. But it's probably worth an experiment.
- sersi 10y ago
  Well when I was a poor student with not much money and pirated software, I've been shamed once to buy a software (I think it was from Panic) when I got a message after entering a blacklisted serial number. So, anecdotally, it does seem to work on some people. But then, as soon as I started working and had money I stopped pirating software so my pirating was mostly due to circumstances.
averagewall 10y ago
Ironically, he seems to have pirated it himself, which makes the copyright claim even more insulting. PerfectTablePlan: "If you like PerfectTablePlan enough to go searching for a crack for it then why not just buy it? It's a lot less hassle and you won't risk infecting your computer with viruses, spyware and other malware commonly disguised as software cracks." Dplot: "If you like DPlot enough to go searching for a crack for it then why not just buy it? It is a lot less hassle and you won't risk infecting your computer with viruses, spyware and other malware commonly disguised as software cracks." There's a bit of rewording in the middle but it's mostly copy and pasted from the other guy's or the common source.

omn1 10y ago

I would add a picture of the team behind the software to this page. Makes it a bit more personal. Also I would place the second paragraph at the beginning for the same reason.

jimmies 10y ago

When searching for the crack, it means someone thinks that the software isn't worth the value being asked (or they might not have any way to pay). The honeypot page doesn't provide anything useful to the question. I think scaring customers who are looking for cracks with "you're sooooo gonna get malware, stop doing that" sounds a bit cheap and might turn some away. Having that page sounds like a smug idea to 'outsmart' the customers (which I think is dangerous). It gives the impression 'ahaha I knew you will do this, caught ya' -- you're trying too hard like a car salesman. Best case, they grudgingly pay for your shit. What probably will happen is that they click back and move to the next result. There might be some actual, helpful solutions to the customer given you are facing a customer trying to save a buck: 1. Actually giving them a discount: Providing a discounted license. Giving them a student discount. Providing a reduced/lite mode/ad-enabled license (for example, powered by... on the printed cards). Providing WinRAR-style functionality. Extending their trial period. Actually offering them a way to email you to ask for a free license and explain why they can't afford or pay for it. 2. Showing a cheaper (but inferior, possibly) software/solution that does the same thing as the thing you're trying to sell. 3. Showing the customer a way to DYI. After trying 2 or 3 and the customer concluded to themselves "fuck it, it sucks even more for me to try saving a couple of bucks than to buy this outright," then there is a chance they might actually be happy to buy it.

kkirsche 10y ago
This is accurate and the best option in my opinion
superasn 10y ago
While I agree with your ideas but isn't giving them a discount = rewarding bad behavior? It just gives the wrong idea and is unfair to other customers.
- jimmies 10y ago
  Companies selling stuff much more expensive for the early adopters because they know the customers are willing to pay for it. As long as you're making profit, you should sell to everyone at the maximum price they're willing to pay for. Selling something = maximizing profit or sales, not "making it fair for everyone." You'll see it a lot of that in Kickstarter's tiered-reward structure or processors being sold nowadays. If a person values my software at $100 and 5 others value it at $20, I am better off selling it for all of them and get $200. If I had wanted to make it fair for everyone I have to set it at $100 which I will get $100, or $20 and get $120. To give people the impression that I am making it fair to everyone is not hard. I just produce different "editions" of the same software. But under the hood, I don't think it is about making it fair.

OJFord 10y ago

This is titled 'Why you should ...' but the content is just 'You should ...'

chops 10y ago
> I have averaged a sale per month for the last 10 years from people clicking through onto this page. That might be enough of a "Why" to justify the title.
dang 10y ago
That first phrase has three pieces of linkbait and the second only two. We changed the title above to representative language from the article.
- OJFord 10y ago
  Thanks - the title here now is much better, to be clear though I wasn't criticising mods or OP here, since it was verbatim the linked article. :)

arielm 10y ago

I think the _idea_ of a honeypot page is great because it gives you a chance to re-engage with a potential user (not necessarily customer). There's obviously more than one way to style it, but just like every good marketing how you present it should fit your product/brand. Personally, I think the page should talk more about the "why" you should pay this guy (who works hard on it, bla bla bla) and less about scaring you into paying, because most people who know what a crack is aren't really scared away by the mention of malware.

thr0waway1239 10y ago
I think the software creator is also going to be facing another issue: this seems only one step away from creating an actual malware version and releasing it on the internet. That is not an impression you want to leave on your potential customers. The second problem is that you might now open yourself up to differentiation from competitors who can now claim they don't create 'manipulative' honeypot pages and thus gain attention to themselves in the worst way possible for this author - by taking a seemingly high moral ground.

SerLava 10y ago

>Some stuff to keep the search engines happy: crack, cracks, hack, serial numbers, keygen, torrent, warez, licence, license, registration codes, full version download. Just a note, this might work when you have a very small audience and not a lot of strong online competition for this topic. PerfectTablePlan isn't exactly Microsoft Word. The fact that you ARE PerfectTablePlan is also a huge contributing factor to this page being #1. But if you try this in a competitive space, the swift hand of Google will come to crush you. Basically right now, Google is saying "Okay this page does mention these words, and their site has a ton of brand authority for PerfectTablePlan, but Goddamnit they are spamming and if I can put a non-spammer up front, I will." I really like this as a general anti-warez tactic though.

lexap 10y ago

This works great for coupon seekers for SaaS and eCommerce businesses too.

bborud 10y ago

Not everyone that is looking for cracked software does it because they wouldn't pay. Some do it because the vendor is useless at actually selling them the software. On 3-4 occasions over the last 7-8 years I have been trying to buy a legal copy of Windows, download it to my Mac and then install it in VMWare. Every time this has been a situation where I just needed to OS to run some piece of software to fix a problem there and then and I didn't have time to wait for physical medium or there were no shops carrying Windows near by. For instance when I need to adjust the idle-parameters on the engine of one of my cars that has a specialty ECU. I have _never_ succeeding in buying a downloadable Windows in any of these situations. Not a single time. Microsoft has made such a big mess out of it each and every time I gave up and then found some pirated Windows that I could boot for one time use and then throw away. A couple of days ago I was trying to buy Microsoft Office. The reason was that I needed to fix a problem in a document and none of the other software I had would deal with that feature. So I go to the Microsoft website. After noodling around for 3-4 minutes I'm still confused what product I really want to buy. I want the cheapest possible alternative that doesn't require me to register for this and that and which will defecate unwanted stuff all over my laptop. In the middle of the checkout process a popup asks me if I want alerts when there are new products or some similar bullshit. In the checkout process! If there is one place you should take care not to upset the user it is while the user is handing over his or her money to you. I am continually amazed at how bad Microsoft are at this. I understand that Satya Nadella is a busy man, but I would take time out of my day, walk over to whomever is responsible for Microsoft's online retail and fire the moron responsible for it. All the software I use I have licensed. Some of it even though I'm not even required to license it, just because I want to support those who make it. But perhaps once per year I use unlicensed copies of software perhaps once. And it is almost always due to incompetence on part of the vendor.

kilroy123 10y ago
Can you not just download and use one of these vms? https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/ https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/v...
- 10y ago

id122015 10y ago

Its not about honeypot its about price. Few days ago I saw a page here linking to a software for simple image editing, I think it was PhotoBulk. I downloaded the trial, it does what i need, sells for $9. I googled for a serial and it doesnt exist, except malware websites. I searched for freeware alternatives and there are so many, Ill have to find some time to inspect which does the job. Didnt include shell batch scripts, there are dozen of those. The lesson is: if that software advertised here sold for 1 or 2 dolars I'd buy it. I could buy it for $9 as well, but I could do that only once. Tomorrow I cant pay again $9 for other software because this cycle of instaling software never ends and I dont produce money. I have not been employed for a long time. So that honeypot page would be useless.

GauntletWizard 10y ago
I had the exact opposite reaction. $9? That's a steal. Many pieces of software are needlessly bloated in price. If I'm going to use it once for a few hours, $40 doesn't seem worth it. On the other hand, if it saves me an hour, $9 is totally worth it - it's less than I'd have had to pay a minimum wage person to do it for me. On the other hand, I'd love to see more people respect the shareware model. Give most or all features for free, encourage people to drop $5-10 in a hat to pay you back. I'm a firm believer in patreon and PayPal tip jars, though I know that they don't work at present for what I believe are cultural reasons. People (rightly) don't trust free, assume that there's some ulterior motive.
joatmon-snoo 10y ago
People downvoting this are missing a huge point. Sure, 9$ is a much better price than what other products are sold for, and you and I might find 9$ perfectly reasonable. That doesn't mean Joe Schmoe who's between jobs and is milking the dregs of his savings has 9$ to drop. It sure as heck doesn't mean that if Joe needs to use A, B, and C, and they're 9$ apiece that he can still afford to pay for all of them.

Qwertious 10y ago

Alternatively, why not have a "honeypot" site that asks for feedback on why the person is pirating it?

hermitcrab 10y ago
Because the feedback would be "I want to use your software, but I don't want to pay for it"?

timthelion 10y ago

Seems that the sentence "For a one-off fee of $29.95/£19.95/€26.95 is it worth the risk?" should be re-written... http://www.perfecttableplan.com/html/crack.html http://www.perfecttableplan.com/html/crack.html

imode 10y ago

I don't think anybody is going to pirate your wedding planner software. you being smug about something you have no control over (re: piracy) is also not going to do anything either.

Pica_soO 10y ago

Oh, no.. this surely will not be another bad site, where company's upload virus infected ripped software and torrents to movies in continuously worsening quality. And surely the reeducation camp will succeed this time. Is it really so tough to accept the simple fact that entertainment (games) is like a lot of other industrys (nuclear power, bread) a half socialized industry - meaning the state will intervene on shortage and pricespikes. Absolutely noone of those politicians you get to meet as lobbyist at fency dinner partys has a real interest on reducing tv-show and games piracy. The day they would close the Consolecolosseum, because those plebeians did not pay the entrance ticket - there would be a riot to end all riots. Sure you can turn your back to the bloody show, and preach to the good in man sitting on the ranks for entertainment. The industries assembled here have taken alot of those "none"-customers there jobs. Now want to take there free entertainment and there food, while they wait for the lifes to drop to zero? I want it written down into the Pre-Revolution-Chronicles that i did not support this madness.

hartator 10y ago

> Some stuff to keep the search engines happy: crack, cracks, hack, serial numbers, keygen, torrent, warez, licence, license, registration codes, full version download. I think it's against Google TOS to be that explicit. A better alternative will be "Related Keywords:" without metioning search engines.