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A protest isn't hypocritical just because something worse in the past happened that wasn't protested. Maybe some issues with a human face to rally behind receiv

A protest isn't hypocritical just because something worse in the past happened that wasn't protested. Maybe some issues with a human face to rally behind receive disproportionate attention, but that doesn't invalidate the issue.

aaronbrethorst 10y ago
This was a Cold War propaganda technique. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- oculusthrift 10y ago
  worst part is how disingenuous it is. it's not that they want believe some point but simply want to discredit opposition.
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adventured 10y ago
Failing to stand up against egregious civil liberties abuses for eight years, then immediately springing into action again (on every possible topic) because your party is now out of power, is the definition of hypocrisy politically. This happens with every rotation, I watched it happen from Clinton to Bush, and then from Bush to Obama, and now from Obama to Trump. At the same time the Democrats wanted my vote for Clinton against Trump (I voted for neither). One of the lesser reasons Trump is President, is that vast hypocrisy by the left on civil liberties. It does matter. Clinton was a war hawk that supported bombing only Muslim countries (she supported bombing something like eight different Muslim nations in the last 15 years; but I'm to believe she's not anti-Muslim) and overwhelmingly anti-privacy, she isn't getting my vote on the argument that she's the lesser of two devils. Sanders by contrast, has historically been very consistent on civil liberties for decades, and I'd have considered voting for him.
- seanmcdirmid 10y ago
  Look, shit in someone else's yard, I don't care. Shit in my yard, I care a lot about that. There is nothing hypocritical about expecting your country to look out for your interests, while other countries can look out for the interests of their own citizens and residents. This is nothing about "party". Bush would have never done this, neither would McCain and Romney have been so stupid if they were elected. No, this transcends republican and democrat to a new level of damaging politics unseen since the 1930s.
  - theWatcher37 10y ago
    Except Obama himself did this exact same thing, and Carter. You only care because of who's doing it.
    - seanmcdirmid 10y ago
      I've addressed that in multiple comments.
  - StreamBright 10y ago
    It is an interesting stand when you walked over to somebody else's garden and took a dump and than you say I do not care about that. The mass immigration problem is there because of the consistent, bad, misguided, systematic intervention the US committed in the last 30 years in the middle east. Most of the immigrants this executive action is screwing over are leaving their country because of the results of US intervention. http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/us-intervention-before-after.jpg http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/us...
    - seanmcdirmid 10y ago
      The mass immigration "problem" started shortly after Columbus discovered the America's, and hasn't let up since. It is not of the USA's making, in fact, it made the USA.
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aaronbrethorst 10y ago

This was a Cold War propaganda technique. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

oculusthrift 10y ago
worst part is how disingenuous it is. it's not that they want believe some point but simply want to discredit opposition.

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adventured 10y ago

Failing to stand up against egregious civil liberties abuses for eight years, then immediately springing into action again (on every possible topic) because your party is now out of power, is the definition of hypocrisy politically. This happens with every rotation, I watched it happen from Clinton to Bush, and then from Bush to Obama, and now from Obama to Trump. At the same time the Democrats wanted my vote for Clinton against Trump (I voted for neither). One of the lesser reasons Trump is President, is that vast hypocrisy by the left on civil liberties. It does matter. Clinton was a war hawk that supported bombing only Muslim countries (she supported bombing something like eight different Muslim nations in the last 15 years; but I'm to believe she's not anti-Muslim) and overwhelmingly anti-privacy, she isn't getting my vote on the argument that she's the lesser of two devils. Sanders by contrast, has historically been very consistent on civil liberties for decades, and I'd have considered voting for him.

seanmcdirmid 10y ago
Look, shit in someone else's yard, I don't care. Shit in my yard, I care a lot about that. There is nothing hypocritical about expecting your country to look out for your interests, while other countries can look out for the interests of their own citizens and residents. This is nothing about "party". Bush would have never done this, neither would McCain and Romney have been so stupid if they were elected. No, this transcends republican and democrat to a new level of damaging politics unseen since the 1930s.
- theWatcher37 10y ago
  Except Obama himself did this exact same thing, and Carter. You only care because of who's doing it.
  - seanmcdirmid 10y ago
    I've addressed that in multiple comments.
- StreamBright 10y ago
  It is an interesting stand when you walked over to somebody else's garden and took a dump and than you say I do not care about that. The mass immigration problem is there because of the consistent, bad, misguided, systematic intervention the US committed in the last 30 years in the middle east. Most of the immigrants this executive action is screwing over are leaving their country because of the results of US intervention. http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/us-intervention-before-after.jpg http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/us...
  - seanmcdirmid 10y ago
    The mass immigration "problem" started shortly after Columbus discovered the America's, and hasn't let up since. It is not of the USA's making, in fact, it made the USA.
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