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China Bans K-pop Music
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- horsecaptin 10y agoThat's one way to protect the local industry.
- coconutoperator 10y agoActually, it's not aiming at protecting local music industry, if so they would do that years ago. It's more like to push political/business pressure on South Korea to stop them installing THAAD.
- caryhartline 10y agoYep, it said so in the article. But it's also possibly going to have the effect of protecting the local industry.
- seanmcdirmid 10y agoIt is always hard to tell why they do things. The pretext is...retaliation, but they look at all the other wins, and protectionism has a lot to do with it. Heck, Korean dramas were getting way too popular for local media comfort before the THAAD cut backs.
- XorNot 10y agoS. Korea is also a democracy. The regime is highly suspicious of any foreign culture which might make people more interested in control of their own government.
- otoburb 10y agoCurious how China's escalating displeasure with the THAAD system will affect the 2M Korean-speaking Chinese known as Joseonok[1]. One would have hoped their fortunes were on the rise, even if only slowly, but national attention on "Koreans" in general might be misconstrued against them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_China
- jcoffland 10y agoFor those, like me, who were not in the know regarding THAAD, it stands for Terminal High Altitude Area Defense and is a US made antimissile defense system. The US is working with South Korea to install THAAD systems there. China is not happy about this.
- sytelus 10y agoIt seems like pure defense system. Why should anyone object to it?
- dunkelheit 10y agoBecause it breaks the doctrine of mutually assured destruction. If China loses the ability to effectively retaliate against a hypothetical US nuclear strike, it loses its superpower status.
- dingaling 10y agoTHAAD isn't overly destablising to MAD, which operates on the strategic level. It has little effectiveness against ICBM re-entry vehicles which move very, very fast ( about 8 to 10 km / s ) and have all sorts of decoys and countermeasures. It is designed for dealing with theatre missiles, IRBMs and the like, which move much more slowly, aren't well protected and aren't generally considered in the MAD calcul Per state.gov: Many of our regional defense deployments, like the Patriot system and the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD system, are inherently designed for theater use. They are not capable of defending against ICBMs launched at the United States. THAAD, however, is capable of defending against the medium-range and intermediate-range ballistic missile that North Korea is deploying.
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- robert_foss 10y agoSo it's a response to American imperial ambitions? Note how missile defence in the nuclear arena can't be interpreted as purely defensive as it increases the viability of a first strike. America also has retained the right to the "first strike" option unlikely China which has declined such an option.
- galfarragem 10y agoWhen we press the right buttons, we see that the world is plenty of crazy leaders.
- avar 10y agoThere's something truly childish about Chinese diplomacy. They regularly release statements to the effect that the Chinese people have been insulted by some obscure diplomatic statement, and now they're implementing sanctions in the form of banning pop music of all things. Anyone have any recommendations for books or articles that shed some light on this seemingly bizarre behavior?
- true_religion 10y agoIt does not seem childish to me. From the article: > Why? .... South Korea made the decision to deploy the THAAD American missile defense system in the country They are responding to increased military tension with their neighbor, with a minor economic sanction that will not hurt the health, welfare, or stability of their neighbouring country. Such sanctions are a warning shot---a way of saying "yes you see what we did to the pop industry? we can do that to your heavy mining industry next".
- krona 10y ago> we can do that to your heavy mining industry next You're ostensibly incorrect because China is a member of the WTO and can't unilaterally start economic sanctions against other WTO members. I'm no expert but a particular kind of music (k-pop) is more cultural than anything else and so it may be one of the few legal options China has.
- true_religion 10y agoThe US is a member of the WTO, but banned online gambling for years without any real sanctions against them. Countries can and often do unilaterally break portions of global trade deals, and don't care unless there's action taken against them. Oil producing countries are in a full blown international cartel, but does anyone stop them? Nope. Is China going to get hit, whilst they're producing so much of the raw materials needed for electronics?
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- thesmallestcat 10y agoIf China didn't want a missile shield at their doorstep, maybe, just maybe, they should've stop propping up a regime that carries out provocative ballistic missile tests in the region and threatens nuclear strikes against neighbors ad nauseam. China has nobody but themselves and shortsighted foreign policy to blame for this mess.
- LordWinstanley 10y agoYes China. Stop propping up the USA!
- WalterSear 10y agoThey don't want a multimillion person refuge crisis on their doorstep.
- dajohnson89 10y agoA few concerts and other media products weren't approved. I didn't see in the article any official government statement categorically banning K-pop.
- resfirestar 10y agoThe linked article is hyperbolic if we're generous, in my opinion it qualifies as an instance of "fake news". >China has prohibited all hallyu, or Korean Wave (K-pop), content in the country This and the headline are false. K-pop is available on Chinese music streaming services, Korean dramas are similarly still airing, etc. What is true is that Korean stars are increasingly being barred from having concerts, events, and TV appearances in China, and that is leading to concern about whether more regulations are to come. BTW, MAMA 2016 went ahead without issues. A non-clickbait account: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/04/south-koreas-k-pop-stars-caught-crossfire-diplomatic-spat-china/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/04/south-koreas-k-po...
- TheRealDunkirk 10y agoThe article reminds me how Obama stopped the burgeoning deployment of this system in various European countries at Russia's request, right after he took office, and I wonder if Trump will try to restart the effort to deploy them.
- resfirestar 10y agoI'd be surprised if he tried to start a diplomatic crisis with Russia right away, just yesterday he said the US will have good relations with Russia under his admin. The whole Trump/Russia situation is similar to Obama's pledges to warm relations with Russia (most famously, the "reset"), complete with the opposition's foreign policy hawks being perpetually outraged. Of course, the economic crisis was first through tenth on everyone's minds, so it never became a top issue for Obama.