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Another reason to pass on Kaby Lake is the hardware digital restrictions management built into the chip: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/netflix-4k-strea

by sedachv 10y ago

Another reason to pass on Kaby Lake is the hardware digital restrictions management built into the chip: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/netflix-4k-streaming-pc-kaby-lake-cpu-windows-10-edge-browser/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/netflix-4k-streaming-...

niftich 10y ago
For some people, this will instead be a reason to upgrade, given the popular content gated behind.
- api 10y ago
  Couldn't this also allow you to have Yubikey-like secure enclave SSH and SSL keys?
  - niftich 10y ago
    Maybe [1]. [1] https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/204319-windows-10s-playready-3-0-mandates-hardware-drm-for-4k-playback https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/204319-windows-10s-playr...
- rl3 10y ago
  I'm excited for it. Helps lessen the burn of waiting for the 6700K's successor only to find it's the same thing basically. Still, Netflix requiring DRM on 4K streams is idiotic. Big content sure does love shooting themselves in the foot.
  - sergiotapia 10y ago
    Cancelled Netflix because of this. Now I just go Usenet/Plex. Can't and won't look back.
  - lostlogin 10y ago
    It's weirdly user hostile when other things they do aren't. Their policy of allowing multiple streams from a single login allows password sharing which is great - it probably generates sales eventually but it doesn't seem that these two policies completely square with each other.
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      I suspect the DRM requirements are demanded by content owners of third-party content, and it's easier for Netflix to just have consistent requirements than to vary them from item to item.
  - anonova 10y ago
    I still can't stream HD video from Google Play or Amazon because I use OSX and an external monitor.[1] I have no problem paying for content... if I could actually watch it. [1]: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2528768 https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2528768
    - givinguflac 10y ago
      Wow that's just stupid. This is a crappy workaround, but what happens if you enable display mirroring for your external display? It kills your dual display setup while watching, but it may enable HD streaming for you. I have not tested it, just a theory. YMMV.
raverbashing 10y ago
It seems the issue is not only the DRM but the 10-bit HEVC decoding (But then again, I'm fine with streaming at Blue-Ray resolutions or even less)
btym 10y ago
Maybe Netflix could work on getting DRM figured out with Chrome and Firefox first, or rip out DRM altogether, or some other solution that makes it possible to watch Netflix in higher than 720p on Linux... It's ridiculous how often I find myself torrenting content that I am paying for the privilege to stream (via Netflix, Hulu, HBO Go) simply because the legal option is a much worse user experience.
- argonaut 10y ago
  This doesn't make sense. You're already paying for the content, but sometimes the DRM makes it unwatchable for your platform so you torrent. Oddly enough it seems to me like Netflix et al. have no incentive to cater to you, because you've remained a customer in spite of the DRM. Netflix has an incentive to fix the reasons why customers canceled or decided not to sign up, not necessarily the reasons why people are unhappy but still pay for Netflix. I'm sure someone will reply saying they canceled because of DRM - I'm just pointing this out for the parent post.
  - btym 10y ago
    I still enjoy Netflix, especially on my other devices. I cancelled HBO Go because it wasn't a good service.
Paul-ish 10y ago
This will probably come to ARM and AMD chips too, as they just copy what Intel does. SGX will probably just make things even worse. There isn't much real choice in these things as a consumer.
dx034 10y ago
Does this have any negative implications if you don't use it? Otherwise it shouldn't put you off? I think it's nice for Netflix, let's hope it'll be usable with Chrome, fullHD on chrome would already be a start..

by sedachv 10y ago

niftich 10y ago

For some people, this will instead be a reason to upgrade, given the popular content gated behind.

api 10y ago
Couldn't this also allow you to have Yubikey-like secure enclave SSH and SSL keys?
- niftich 10y ago
  Maybe [1]. [1] https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/204319-windows-10s-playready-3-0-mandates-hardware-drm-for-4k-playback https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/204319-windows-10s-playr...
rl3 10y ago
I'm excited for it. Helps lessen the burn of waiting for the 6700K's successor only to find it's the same thing basically. Still, Netflix requiring DRM on 4K streams is idiotic. Big content sure does love shooting themselves in the foot.
- sergiotapia 10y ago
  Cancelled Netflix because of this. Now I just go Usenet/Plex. Can't and won't look back.
- lostlogin 10y ago
  It's weirdly user hostile when other things they do aren't. Their policy of allowing multiple streams from a single login allows password sharing which is great - it probably generates sales eventually but it doesn't seem that these two policies completely square with each other.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    I suspect the DRM requirements are demanded by content owners of third-party content, and it's easier for Netflix to just have consistent requirements than to vary them from item to item.
- anonova 10y ago
  I still can't stream HD video from Google Play or Amazon because I use OSX and an external monitor.[1] I have no problem paying for content... if I could actually watch it. [1]: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2528768 https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2528768
  - givinguflac 10y ago
    Wow that's just stupid. This is a crappy workaround, but what happens if you enable display mirroring for your external display? It kills your dual display setup while watching, but it may enable HD streaming for you. I have not tested it, just a theory. YMMV.

raverbashing 10y ago

It seems the issue is not only the DRM but the 10-bit HEVC decoding (But then again, I'm fine with streaming at Blue-Ray resolutions or even less)

btym 10y ago

Maybe Netflix could work on getting DRM figured out with Chrome and Firefox first, or rip out DRM altogether, or some other solution that makes it possible to watch Netflix in higher than 720p on Linux... It's ridiculous how often I find myself torrenting content that I am paying for the privilege to stream (via Netflix, Hulu, HBO Go) simply because the legal option is a much worse user experience.

argonaut 10y ago
This doesn't make sense. You're already paying for the content, but sometimes the DRM makes it unwatchable for your platform so you torrent. Oddly enough it seems to me like Netflix et al. have no incentive to cater to you, because you've remained a customer in spite of the DRM. Netflix has an incentive to fix the reasons why customers canceled or decided not to sign up, not necessarily the reasons why people are unhappy but still pay for Netflix. I'm sure someone will reply saying they canceled because of DRM - I'm just pointing this out for the parent post.
- btym 10y ago
  I still enjoy Netflix, especially on my other devices. I cancelled HBO Go because it wasn't a good service.

Paul-ish 10y ago

This will probably come to ARM and AMD chips too, as they just copy what Intel does. SGX will probably just make things even worse. There isn't much real choice in these things as a consumer.

dx034 10y ago

Does this have any negative implications if you don't use it? Otherwise it shouldn't put you off? I think it's nice for Netflix, let's hope it'll be usable with Chrome, fullHD on chrome would already be a start..