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>having to sacrifice IO for charging while mobile You're not sacrificing anything. The old MBP had two usb ports and the new one has 3 available while charging
by ryanmonroe 10y ago
>having to sacrifice IO for charging while mobile
You're not sacrificing anything. The old MBP had two usb ports and the new one has 3 available while charging. The only thing that has changed is now you can use the charging port for IO when not charging. Framing this as a "sacrifice" doesn't make any sense.
>make sure you carry the right USB-C cables, as your friend's might not work
With the old Magsafe chargers, and for laptop chargers in general, it's the same deal. If you want to charge your laptop, you have to bring your charger. The fact that the charger is USB-C doesn't make the situation worse.
- nkristoffersen 10y agoHe said "sacrifice IO". The old MBP (which I am typing on) has two USB and two Thunderbolt ports. So a total of 4 IO while charging with the old MBP.
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- quarterto 10y agoBut the charging cable can still be used for IO, as demonstrated by that new LG display
- nkristoffersen 10y agoGreat catch! Seems obvious since Thunderbolt can be daisy-chained.
- AlphaSite 10y agoThis one has 4 USB/thunderbolt/Charing ports. They are all identical.
- tnones 10y agoBut the old MBP had two thunderbolts and an HDMI connector, on top of the two USB. You could plug in 3 displays, charge it and still have room for a mouse and a keyboard. Now it's always a trade-off, so on top of DVI/HDMI/DP dongles, you'll have to carry a USB hub.
- glogla 10y agoAnd having to use a special Apple dongle to connect normal mouse or flash disk is downright embarassing.
- spankalee 10y agoWhy would it be a special Apple dongle? Any USB-C to USB-A adapter would work, until you get a USB-C mouse.
- bluedino 10y agoUSB C mouse? Let me know when you can pick one of those up at Staples or Best Buy
- bartvk 10y agoWhy the snark? It'll probably take a year before you can get a cheap throw-away mouse with USB-C at Staples or Best Buy. But assuming you're a professional, you either already have a bluetooth mouse/trackpad or you'll want some quality and order a mouse from a reputable brand.
- bluedino 10y agoDoes Logitech make a USB-C receiver for their wireless mouse yet?
- bartvk 10y agoHeh, that's an interesting point you make. Assuming you can't or don't want to use Bluetooth, I was surprised to see that in The Netherlands, there's only 1 brand that carries an USB-C mouse, and it's a budget brand as well: http://www.trust.com/en/product/20969-usb-c-retractable-mini-mouse-black http://www.trust.com/en/product/20969-usb-c-retractable-mini... So I have to admit it's indeed very, very slim pickings.
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- rangibaby 10y agoOnly one major generation of MacBooks (2013~2016) used a different MagSafe connector. AFAIK any charger will work with any MacBook, just at different rates of charging.
- lostlogin 10y agosomewhere in Apple someone hated this - having a charger with a strain reducers will be amazing.
- davidlumley 10y ago> If you want to charge your laptop, you have to bring your charger. That's not really correct regarding MacBooks. If you've got the same Magsafe adapter (gen 1 or gen 2) the charger will work. It just charges at a faster or slower rate than intentional.
- saidajigumi 10y agoIt's interesting to note that the fancy LG 5k monitor announced alongside the new MBP also charges the MBP. One cable connection and you have a monitor, a docking station with ports, and power. All while leaving three extra ports free. IMO, that's the real potential of this style of multi-use connector.
- monkmartinez 10y agoIn addition to spending $2400 on a basic 15" MBP, we can buy the fancy monitor that has actual USB connections for $1300 more! Don't forget a few $$$$ in dongles for the times when you aren't connected to the 5K beauty. +/- $4000 dollars for a "touch of genius"... Makes me vomit a little in my mouth. I am the "tech guy" for my circle of friends. Apple has lost all recommendations from me.
- jsjohnst 10y agoWait a year and it'll be half the price. Problem solved. :)
- threeseed 10y agoThe MacBook Pro has USB connections. 4 of them. Maybe your friends need a new tech guy.
- saidajigumi 10y agoYes, because we should all still be using SCSI on our laptops. With cables thicker than your thumb that had to be handled with utmost care or else they'd fail. And single-purpose connectors, where even the compact form was bigger than a lot of device chargers these days. USB-A is certainly ubiquitous, which is a good thing. But it was never going to last forever. USB-C vastly improves on the physical design (reversible, symmetric, easier insertion, etc.) and I expect will carry us forward for even longer than USB-A has. Thus Apple and everyone else are moving towards adopting USB-C, which means there will be ever more widespread and cheap docking and peripheral options. Yes, these transitions are painful but at least there are dongles this time, which hasn't always been the case. Such transitions are also a part of living during the historically amazing times of an accelerated tech curve. Enjoy that while it lasts!
- odbol_ 10y agoTwo USB ports PLUS two thunderbolt/mini display PLUS an HDMI and 1/8 analog, all while charging. That's 6 vs. 3 available ports.
- WildUtah 10y agoYou're not sacrificing anything. The old MBP had two usb ports and the new one has 3 available while charging. The only thing that has changed is now you can use the charging port for IO when not charging. The MacBook Escape—which history says will be the most popular new MacBook Pro by far—has only two USB-C ports and a phono jack. There are no other ports at all.