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SpaceX says helium loading issue caused accident, seeks 2016 return to flight
- mSparks 10y agoStrange they don't mention the UFO in the video. Good guys stopping bad satellite seems to be a common theme in all the conspiracy theories.
- ceejayoz 10y agoIdiocy is the common theme in those conspiracy theories.
- colordrops 10y agoInsult is a common theme amongst closed minded people. Just because this particular theory is terrible doesn't mean you can bucket all theories you don't like in a "conspiracy theory" bucket. Judge a hypothesis on its merits, not its label. What do you think about the recent news that South Korea is run by a psychic cult that groomed the president since youth? This is front page news. Are mainstream media outlets conspiracy theory idiots?
- ceejayoz 10y agoI said those conspiracy theories, not all. The idea that a UFO interfered with SpaceX's launch is quite simply absurd, particularly as it requires an explanation for why such a powerful entity wouldn't have interfered with other launches.
- eth0up 10y agoI was previously trounced for mentioning the following, but here it is again, the failure of the Proton rocket from 5/15/2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdY1W9A2fbg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdY1W9A2fbg Before anyone goes apeshit, note that I make no assertions that ET (or even the apparent 'object' itself) has anything to do with anything. However, at approximately minute 1:22, if the video is set at 0.25 speed, a faint object can be seen approaching from the right-side mid-portion of the screen toward the rocket. As it passes, the malfunction occurs. Implicative of celestial lizard overlords and Armageddon? Most certainly not. But I still find it interesting. The situation of the Falcon rocket was less interesting regarding an 'object', which seemed insignificant. It's also fair to remember the "U" part of UFO, which merely implies unidentified.
- mSparks 10y agoYeah, even Elon said they "can't rule it out". http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-11/elon-musk-we-have-not-ruled-out-ufo-caused-space-x-explosion http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-11/elon-musk-we-have-n... And I gotta say, it still seems more likely than helium exploding. Since helium is an inert gas. But lots of peeps on here fail the great filter part of Fermi's Theory, so you can expect the downvotes anyway.
- mSparks 10y agoMeh, any scaly with a remote control can fly a drone. The concept that every UFO is under the control of a "powerful entity" is as absurd as theories get. No idea why you would jump to that conclusion, and there are a multitude of reasons why any number of state entities would want to interfere with an Israeli satellite. The $200m in uninsured damage that resulted is reason enough for half a dozen countries.
- huhtenberg 10y agoYou may want to lookup "sarcasm" before getting all judgemental on the OP's ass next time. It might've been a unfunny joke, but a joke it was.
- sabertoothed 10y agoExtraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You don't have the latter. What is more likely: That a bug or bird was captured on the video at a shorter distance than the rocket? Or that some UFO attacked the rocket? Seriously.
- mSparks 10y agoWell, The article specifically mentions "conspiracy theories" I quote: The lack of a definitive root cause has prompted all sorts of wild theories, including a sniper from a competitor's facilities at Cape Canaveral. But not the central theory which notes a flying object which is unidentified (written that way for those brainwashed by CIA disinformation that "UFO" means "Alien") passing the rocket the instant it explodes in the video. Which even Elon said they can't rule out. But yeah. An inert gas exploding spontaneously is MUCH more likely than sabotage.... yeah right... That we don't need "extraodinary evidence"
- phkahler 10y agoSo was it thermal shock?
- DiThi 10y agoFormation of oxygen ice crystals around carbon fibers of helium tank, rupturing fibers.
- harshreality 10y agoI don't follow /r/spacex so I found this to be a great summary. A little more detail (without going to /r/spacex and wading through threads there) is in a comment (which itself is summarizing theories from /r/spacex) at ars: http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/10/spacex-says-it-remains-on-track-to-return-to-flight-by-years-end/?comments=1&post=32154037 http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/10/spacex-says-it-remain...
- Gibbon1 10y agoThey don't call it rocket science for nothing. Seems like rocketry is full of issues like that. I remember reading a bit on the thrusters developed for I think the Apollo program. They had problems a little fuel/oxidizer dribble out of the valves as they were turning on and off. Under some conditions layers of frozen fuel/oxidizer would form on the nozzle. Once enough built up it would explode and shatter the nozzle. short on -> off -> short on -> off -> long on-> bang The solution was to carefully avoid those conditions.
- namlem 10y agoNo wonder they want to get rid of helium in the new rocket. It's such a pain to work with.
- M_Grey 10y agoThis is what seems to matter most... Company still needs to find "exact" root cause, but ready to resume rocket tests. They need to figure that out, and they need to do it before they lose another payload on the pad.
- Dylan16807 10y ago"issues with handling helium, rather than a design issue with the rocket itself" I don't know if I would be so quick to declare "rather", but it would mean that they can baby the helium tanks to avoid any design issues for now.
- api 10y agoDepends on how you define things. The fact that a gas car will have issues with very cold fuel or fuel outside an octane rating range is not a design flaw. But it is a thing you need to know. You could say they learned something new about the rocket's exact "needs" and performance envelope, but you could also say that this sensitivity is something that should call for a design rev. Answer is likely yes and yes.
- manicdee 10y agoThus their focus on Raptor, and the ITS using methane and LOX with "hot" O2 and methane to pressurise the propellant tanks. One it look at it as "avoiding problems with the COPV immersed in cryogenic O2" or "replacing COPV problem with hot gaseous oxidiser problems". I hope SpaceX learn the important design lessons in develoment and test flights, rather then six flights into their colonisation effort.
- perseusprime11 10y agoCould this explain the loud bang we heard before the rocket exploded?
- drakonandor 10y agoBoeing sniper nearby, possibly Illuminati. The solution involves Kevlar armor around all the fuel tanks.
- cududa 10y agoDoes anyone know of any good reading on the type of insurance policy SpaceX might have for their launches? Or what type of entity would insure it?
- danielvf 10y agoAt little old (2002) but just what you are looking for: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/media/q42002.pdf https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/as...