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> Enable private consultants and companies to provide this as a service. If I am an AWS customer I expect AWS to handle/prevent DDoS, same way as they do with
by atmosx 10y ago
> Enable private consultants and companies to provide this as a service.
If I am an AWS customer I expect AWS to handle/prevent DDoS, same way as they do with S3 to achieve 11 9's availability (the files are saved in multiple AZs in the same region - Glacier IIRC copy files on different regions to avoid data loss in case of physical disaster).
One of the reason for choosing AWS is because AMZ has deep pockets and has the means (financial and technical) to fight against large DDoS attacks, while a smaller provider might not have to do that. Putting clients in a position to have to buy that sort of protection doesn't sound very smart to me.
- qaq 10y ago"achieve 11 9's availability" is this sarcasm?
- _adamb 10y agoThey're referring to AWS S3's claim of 99.999999999% durability. AWS actually offers 99.99% availability.
- qaq 10y agoOh that at least could theoretically be feasible considering AWS's SLA though they might as well claim it's 99.9999999999999999999999999%
- wcummings 10y agoIt all depends how you measure it
- ryanlol 10y ago> If I am an AWS customer I expect AWS to handle/prevent DDoS, same way as they do with S3 to achieve 11 9's availability If you are an AWS customer you should have done your due diligence and know that amazon won't do a very good job at that.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoI don't understand how people who use AWS have such unrealistic expectations. Someone will always have the upper hand in an arms race, and it's not service providers yet. It's just a matter of finding the choke point between their transit and your code.
- ryanlol 10y ago>I don't understand how people who use AWS have such unrealistic expectations. Well, the whole point of AWS is not having to deal with the usual hosting stuff. They'll naturally have lots of customers with high expectations and very little understanding of how things work in the background.
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- Taek 10y agoI thought you had to pay substantially extra to get files stored in multiple regions.
- takeda 10y ago> do with S3 to achieve 11 9's availability I see so many people confused about this. Eleven nines is their durability guarantee, their availability that they guarantee is only 99.99% https://aws.amazon.com/s3/faqs/ https://aws.amazon.com/s3/faqs/
- JumpCrisscross 10y agoWhat's the difference between durability and availability?
- gohrt 10y agodurability means you'll get your bits eventually. availability means you'll get your bits immediately.
- eloff 10y agoAvailability is the % of times you try to access your data that you get it back. So 52.5 minutes of downtime a year is still within SLA. Durability is the % of your data that doesn't die. Eleven 9s means that if you store 1TB on AWS S3 you can expect to lose 10 bytes and still be within SLA.
- jacquesm 10y agoNo, it means that if you store your data there that there is a .000000001% chance that you will lose all of it.
- speedplane 10y agoIs that true? How can they possibly measure a probability event so small? If every human in the world was their customer, then .05 humans would lost heir data?
- jontas 10y agoI don't know much about actuarial math but I think this number is for insurance policies more than anything else. It could be based on something like the rate of hardware failures they experience now amortized over a long period and many customers, and then adjusted to account for redundancy. As a very simplified example, imagine they are expecting to lose 2 servers every day, this percentage might be the probability of those two servers storing the same exact object (and thus, losing it irretrievably).
- drieddust 10y agoWhen you are DDOSed they will keep supplying the resources for you to consume and pay them extra. Cloud is commodity so don't expect to be treated like a special snowflake. Your distress is their opportunity to make extra money. Offtopic but relevant. One of my customer moved their email to O365 without understanding the differences from being ON-Prem. Now they are struggling to adopt their business processes to then limitations MS imposes.
- ryanlol 10y ago>When you are DDOSed they will keep supplying the resources for you to consume and pay them extra. If the attack is tiny, sure. Otherwise they'll just cut you off.
- novaleaf 10y agoi'm not an AWS customer, but from what I have heard, you would be financially responsible for the DDoS traffic bill. Amazon might wave the fee, but you are the first party responsible.