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Right? It seems trivial to tweak the judges statement: "In today's digital world, it appears to be a virtual certainty that computers accessing the Internet ca
by dantillberg 10y ago
Right? It seems trivial to tweak the judges statement:
"In today's digital world, it appears to be a virtual certainty that computers accessing the Internet can—and eventually will—be hacked."
To apply to houses:
"In today's mechanized world, it appears to be a virtual certainty that houses connected to the earth can—and eventually will—be broken into."
Thus, warrants need not apply for search and seizure in houses. QED.
- type0 10y ago> "In today's mechanized world, it appears to be a virtual certainty that houses connected to the earth can—and eventually will—be broken into." Or rather "... houses with doors can —and eventually will—be broken into."
- type0 10y agoAlso: "... houses with WINDOWS can —and eventually will—be broken into."
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- allendoerfer 10y agoEven as a programmer I would much rather have to get through "… houses with WALLS …" than through reasonably strong encryption, the task might require strength, but is quite straightforward.
- spacecowboy_lon 10y agoAnd its easier to break into the average house than the average pc.
- rqebmm 10y agoMaybe, but it's definitely easier to break into a million PC's than a million houses.
- ComodoHacker 10y agoMoreover, many houses also have BACK DOORS!
- type0 10y agoSure, but you can decide if you want keep the key under the rug beside that door.
- pfortuny 10y agoNot just broken into, just peered into. Do not have windows if you expect any privacy. And of course, do not speak at home (or do not expect any privacy).
- Juz16 10y agoHaving blinds on your windows still doesn't mean you should expect privacy, any window you own can - and probably will - be looked through.
- tinco 10y agoI think you can be charged with public indecency if you stand in front of your window naked. So there is some sort of gray area when talking about the privacy of your home.
- camhenlin 10y agoDepends on your location. In my state (Oregon) that's totally fine as long as your intent is not to offend anyone
- PJDK 10y agoGenuinely curious, do you need a warrant to look through a window. I guess the answer is "sometimes, it's complicated"...
- HillaryBriss 10y agoIn California, police can peer into car windows without a warrant. That's one reason police always seem to be carrying a mag-light when they pull someone over. (The other being that mag-lights are heavy and useful as clubs.)
- HillaryBriss 10y agoOh yeah. Another piece of advice I've often heard is that, if police come to your door asking questions, it's prudent to step outside to speak with them, rather than speaking with them through an open door. If they see something suspicious through your opened door, they can reasonably claim probable cause and force entry. This may be all BS. But it's advice I've heard more than once.
- csense 10y agoA house not connected to the earth would be pretty awesome, but you'd have to have a way to get food and stuff delivered [1]. [1] http://what-if.xkcd.com/149/ http://what-if.xkcd.com/149/
- Retric 10y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houseboat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houseboat and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_(2009_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_(2009_film) are both connected to the earth. I think you need a spaceship for real freedom.
- HillaryBriss 10y agodrones, man. all about the drones.
- anonbanker 10y agoHermicity[0] might be what you're looking for. http://hermicity.org http://hermicity.org
- lswainemoore 10y agoHmm. I don't agree with the ruling either. But I don't think this analogy does the original argument justice. The point of mentioning "accessing the internet" is it's a lot easier for the hacker to scale up their wrongdoing with ease. It's much simpler to put a virus of some sort (say, a fake download button on a media sharing site) and reach a large audience, than it is to break into the homes of a similarly large group of people. Where I primarily disagree with the judgment is that this notion makes it a "virtual certainty" that hacking occurs for any given person. Smart browsing habits, and general computer literacy, can make the odds decrease to near zero.
- e12e 10y agoNot only that, most places(?) have fire codes that mandates that all houses are easy(ish) to break-in to. Maybe not easy to sneak into, but certainly easy to break-in to. Because the fire department and emergency services need a way in. I suppose the analogy would be that just because Microsoft has the power to remotely upgrade your windows 10 install (and potentially install any back-door), that should not violate your expectation of privacy.