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Because Apple systems are non-expandable, I usually store my large data on external drives (USB, NAS, etc). Any idea if APFS will work on them, either direct c

• TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
  At WWDC it was demoed on a USB flash drive.
• lee_ars 10y ago
  USB devices can definitely be formatted with APFS, since they did that on-stage during the demo. I'm less sure about iSCSI targets, but iSCSI is a block-storage protocol. If you can format an iSCSI volume with HFS+ today, you'll probably be able to format it with APFS tomorrow.
• raverbashing 10y ago
  File system is usually independent from storage media, with some exceptions (and I would kind of avoid formatting external drives in "funny" FSs as I might want to read them in some other OSs. Unfortunately this usually means FAT32) But I do have external media as HFS to work with Time Machine
  • laumars 10y ago
    For what it's worth, there's NTFS drivers for Linux and OS X (ntfs-3g). NTFS often gets a mixed reception, but regardless of your opinion of it, it's still massively better than FAT32. Another option is ext3. The only caveat there is the Windows ext drivers don't fully support ext3 (unless I've missed an announcement). However they do fully support ext2 and ext3 is backwards compatible so you can effective get ext3 support in Windows. Sadly though, all the good stuff requires 3rd party libraries. It's a real pity everyone can't agree on a standard to replace FAT32. :(
    • ams6110 10y ago
      Is NTFS support good enough for writing? I haven't kept up. At one time you could read NTFS on Linux well enough, but writing was not supported (or was "experimental") I think mostly because the permissions attributes were quite different from the Unix approach? And also because it was reverse-engineered and not officially endorsed by MS? Did Microsoft ever open-source the NTFS specs and drivers?
      • takeda 10y ago
        This was true 15 years ago, I hope it is not true anymore. I know there was a way to write to ntfs from Linux, but it required to install ntfs driver file from Windows. I hope there is a native ntfs support that supports writing.
        • Elhana 10y ago
          Ntfs-3g writes fine on ntfs nowadays, WUBI even uses it for root, but there can be some edge cases still.
        • cyphar 10y ago
          > I know there was a way to write to ntfs from Linux, but it required to install ntfs driver file from Windows. That isn't true. You need to use ntfs-3g, which is a free software implementation of NTFS (that allows both reading and writing). It's been stable for 10 years. Using NTFS doesn't require anything from windows and doesn't require proprietary software.
          • takeda 10y ago
            It is true. I stated how it was in the past[1]. Anyway according to [1], it looks like ntfs-3g still uses a proprietary version of ntfs.sys [1] http://superuser.com/questions/139452/kernel-ntfs-driver-vs-ntfs-3g/357949#357949 http://superuser.com/questions/139452/kernel-ntfs-driver-vs-...
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