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How is this an issue? Most people don't have issues keeping their phone's out of water or keeping it charged.
by nacs 10y ago
How is this an issue? Most people don't have issues keeping their phone's out of water or keeping it charged.
- BinaryIdiot 10y agoParent was referring to cards not phones.
- tropo 10y agoOK, but if that fails and your phone gets wet... how will you pay for the new phone? With a soggy broken phone?
- Grishnakh 10y agoThat's why you buy a waterproof phone.
- dec0dedab0de 10y agoWell it would probably push me back to cash. I don't bring my phone if I'm going to be wet, or theres a chance of it getting damaged (swimming, moshpits) but I still might want or need to buy something. I also find it a chore to keep my phone charged all day, and will regularly have it die, and leave it somewhere to be charged while I go out.
- djsumdog 10y agoCredit cards don't run out of battery. If your phone is almost out of juice, you can order an Uber. But if your battery is flat, you can always ask the cabby if they take cards (or just withdraw cash using your card if you're in a city where most of the cabs don't).
- firebird84 10y agoExcept in my experience cabbies are like "yeah we take credit" and then afterwards "oh my credit card machine is broken, are you sure you don't have cash? I'll drive you to the ATM..." Cabbies want to dodge that income tax.
- thedufer 10y agoThis probably varies by location, but in nyc cabs are required to have working credit card readers. Thus, insisting on credit card pretty much always works - the alternative is that they admit they illegally picked you up.
- tedmiston 10y agoIt's definitely less refined and consistent outside of NYC.
- emidln 10y agoAlso like this in Chicago.
- mcguire 10y agoSo what if it's illegal. They're disrupting the regulatory apparatus. Fight the power! Stick it to the man!
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- bdcravens 10y agoYeah - startup avoid taxi regulation=revolutionary disrupter, cab driver avoiding regulation=bad
- __jal 10y agoYep. Neither does cash. And when you pay cash, you're not also feeding marketing databases, unless you choose to. Nor are you required to ask permission of the issuer in order to buy something. I really like cash.
- cortesoft 10y agoCash is cool, but has a lot of downsides. It can be stolen easily. You have to go somewhere to get more of it. You have to make change. It doesn't allow you to automatically track your purchases. You can't get it back from a seller if you are sold fraudulent goods.
- chj 10y agoOr you can ask the cabby if he has a USB port in the car. I always charge on the road.
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- donatj 10y agoI don't enjoy carrying a fragile $500+ computer on my person at all time and often do without. I frankly don't want to live in a world where I couldn't leave it at home.
- freehunter 10y agoAnd plenty of people feel the same way about cards. That's why Apple Pay falls back to plastic cards, and plastic cards fall back to cash.
- nostrebored 10y agoIf I break my credit card (which is actually quite hard) I get a replacement. If I break my phone I better hope that I had a warranty.
- bogomipz 10y agoAs a credit card holder they still send you a physical card, I don't think than anyone is waving that if you say you have an Iphone. If you lose your phone you just fall back to the physical card that you presumably have in your wallet somewhere.
- facetube 10y agoWhy not just use the card all the time then?
- colejohnson66 10y agoBecause the phone is more secure using one time tokens instead of a semi permanent 16 digit number
- facetube 10y agoI was assuming a chip and pin style card. These, as best as I can tell, seem to have most of the security of a phone-based solution, but with a much smaller attack surface (no internet connection, no cellular radio or baseband processor) and no need for recharging or carrying backup payment methods.
- lostlogin 10y agoDon't forget dropping, temperature sensitivity, bending and (for me) magnetic field sensitivity (which seems to be alarmingly bad but temporary). It only takes one event to cost you close to $1000 (not sure of phone cost in US). That's a lot more than a new credit card costs.
- snewk 10y agoarent plastic cards arguably more vulnerable to magnetic fields?
- lostlogin 10y agoNo. Magnetic strips are resistant to 3 tesla, but it does kill them. I assume moving fast across flux lines does it. However chips on the card are good with unlimited exposure to 4.7 tesla as far as I can tell. Phones turn off and won't reboot for a period of time that is alarming, but so far I haven't seen it kill one. MRI engineers even have instructions to document some scanner work with their iPhones. It may just be the screen turning off so I'll have to test Siri or something to check if it's that. They always work again so far but the 30 minute wait didn't seem good!
- tjohns 10y agoMany phones have magnetic switches for use with smart cases. When you close the case cover, a small magnet trips the switch and turns the screen off. The magnet isn't damaging the phone — at least not at field strengths likely to be encountered in everyday life. Removing the magnetic field should immediately turn the screen back on.
- lostlogin 10y ago4.7t is pretty strong. It isn't a cover detector as it's mainly iPhones I've seen affected and it lasts long after the phone is removed from the field. However this may be what has caused the effect on some of the other phones I've seen exposed. I'll do some experimenting next time it occurs. GE and Seimens seem to have an array of phones that engineers are equipped with and they are happy to expose them to high fields.
- profeta 10y ago...until they do.
- Spooks 10y agoWe obviously don't hang around the same people/age group. There is always at least one person in my circle of friends that needs a charger. Obviously 90% of the time a phone could be used (though I don't agree it's faster than credit card tap, roughly the same speed) and a card can be used as backup, but it makes ditching a credit card completely not really an option.
- dghughes 10y agoI foresee an opportunity in the electric vehicle industry a giant quick charge truck for stranded or absentminded EV drivers.
- chillax 10y agohttp://www.plugincars.com/aaa-introduces-roadside-emergency-charging-electric-cars-107663.html http://www.plugincars.com/aaa-introduces-roadside-emergency-...
- dghughes 10y agoDang it! I'm ahead of my time but five years late.
- janekm 10y agoActually that would be really cool with self-driving cars, have a "tanker car" pull up next to you to extend the range for long-range "sorties"...
- andrewflnr 10y agoWhile you're driving, mid-air refueling style. Better make the link-up all in the same lane, though.
- cryptoz 10y agoAutonomous cars will already line up together to get the slipstream efficiency; take it an extra step further and you could have a battery tanker-truck up front giving everyone in the convoy a charge and also making their travel more efficient.
- ptaipale 10y agoMany people do. It's not once or twice that I've ran out of battery. Once I even purchased a backup power bank to charge my phone. I paid with a bank card.
- duncan_bayne 10y agoI have one of those octopus-like "charge any phone" chargers in my kitchen for friends and family who are perennially in need of a charge.
- marcoperaza 10y agoHow is it not an issue? My ability to pay should not rely on my phone's OS and payment app functioning correctly. It should not rely on me having remembered to charge my phone. All of these phone payment systems go through the credit card companies anyway. Printing out the plastic card is not the main service they provide.