12 ms·
Intel Launches 4k-enabled Quad Core NUC
- Fiaxhs 10y agoReally nice, except the design. I mean it looks like the front ports where aligned via CSS vertical-align. And the skull probably looks cool if you're 14.
- hhandoko 10y agoFYI, plain lid (sans-Skull) is included in the package.
- dikei 10y agoThe gaming performance is too low to justify the price. Intel Graphics is still nowhere near the performance of discrete GPU from Nvidia or AMD.
- JorgeGT 10y agoI agree, the price at Amazon.com is $673 (and you still need RAM and a SSD). You can build a pretty decent gaming PC at that price, the only disadvantage being portability. But how often do you need to move your gaming PC?
- sharperer 10y agoI picked mine up from B&H for $650 including shipping.
- dogma1138 10y agoThe Iris Pro 580 has about the performance of a desktop GTX 750ti which isn't bad, it can actually match the performance of "discrete" low to mid range mobile GPU's from both companies like the oh so popular GTX 750/850M. You won't get any decent GPU in a package this small anyhow, that said you can plug in an external GPU via the Thunderbolt port with ease.
- petra 10y agoHow competitive is the Iris Pro 580 price wise ?
- bhouston 10y agoIts integrated as part of the CPU so it is hard to tell how much it is.
- bhouston 10y agoAccording to: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html NVIDIA GeForce 750 Ti is rated at 3,683. Intel Iris Pro 580 is rated at 1,921. That still seems like almost a factor of 2x between them.
- dogma1138 10y agohttp://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Pro-Graphics-580.160664.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Pro-Graphics-580.160... Look at medium settings actual game benchmarks. Here is another benchmark http://www.anandtech.com/show/10343/the-intel-skull-canyon-nuc6i7kyk-minipc-review/4 http://www.anandtech.com/show/10343/the-intel-skull-canyon-n... The 580 manages to beat the GB-BXi5G-760 in some benchmarks which has desktop GTX 760 in it, it only really gets smoked by the Zotac box which has a desktop GTX 960 which is a 200-230$ card.
- bhouston 10y agoNot sure what to make with the conflicting benchmark results. That said, Zotac box is beautiful, the GPU is great, and the price is competitive with other small form factors: https://www.zotac.com/page/en970 https://www.zotac.com/page/en970 The only downside is that these boxes are nearly the same price as desktops with similar specs. So I may stick with desktops just because they are more easily upgradable.
- dogma1138 10y ago
- creshal 10y agoDidn't Intel plan to release Thunderbolt eGPU addons for it? The price is still silly, but at least you could get decent performance on it if you wanted.
- dikei 10y agoThe Razer core is $499 for the enclosure only, which make the price even harder to swallow.
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- izacus 10y agoConsidering the size of gaming graphics cards, having a NUC is kinda pointless then :)
- braderhart 10y agoYes. Thunderbolt 3 supports 40Gbps and should allow for an external GTX 1070 or 1080. The cheapest Thunderbolt 2 PCIe chassis on Amazon is around $200, and I don't see why we can't have a Thunderbolt 3 PCIe chassis at this price point.
- imtringued 10y agoThey missed an opportunity to add GDDR5 directly on the mainboard. That's how AMD is cranking out pretty good performance for the PS4 despite it using an APU.
- undersuit 10y agoThe Intel CPU used in this product has a 128MB L4 cache to be used by the CPU and GPU. It has it's own benefits compared to the PS4's GDDR5 unified memory approach.
- walrus01 10y agoWe had a previous discussion about this, and for its price ($675 with no RAM or SSD?) you can build a really nice mini-ITX system that uses a full size PCI-Express 3.0 video card. The mini-itx system will run circles around this with its laptop CPU. With the right mini-itx case it will still fit nicely into a home theatre setup or in relatively small spaces.
- SwellJoe 10y agoI'm shopping for a laptop lately, and you can actually get a pretty decent midrange laptop for that price (with a discrete GTX 940M or 950M GPU) and a 1080P display. It won't have an i7 in that price range, but with a better GPU you'd be able to play games more effectively, and an i5 is fine for everything I ever do. So, yeah, I agree...this is pricey for what it is. I've also been surprised to find that laptops are now about the same price as similar specs in a desktop or small form factor mini PC.
- alanfranzoni 10y agoSure, the laptop comparison is interesting. But the real point of this i7 is that it's quad core (there're mobile i7 processors, especially in the U line, which are dual core), and that usually pushes up the price quite a bit. But as a portable desktop/development machine, I think the idea is quite interesting, maybe one of the most interesting that came out lately. If only Apple kept up with Mac Mini updates...
- SwellJoe 10y agoI can see how it would have its place in some circumstances, but they seem to be targeting a gaming/entertainment market segment, which is problematic with Intel integrated graphics (which have improved remarkably over the years, but still trail the leading edge of nVidia and ATI GPUs by several years). And, lately, I think the folks doing heavy computation are looking to GPUs for the thinky parts; certainly scientific computing is happening more and more on GPUs rather than CPUs. So, even in those cases, I might prefer a fast GPU to a slightly faster CPU. Anyway, the price is a little high, though I'm sure the quality is good; Intel's servers have always been excellent.
- bhouston 10y agoPretty decent GPU performance, 80% performance of the non-overclocked 4790K, which is my go to desktop processor these days. And it has 40% of the performance of the top end processors available. The GPU is rated 1,921 on the PassMark website, which is about 6x slower than the top GPUs. It is 3x slower than what were mid-range GPUs 4 years ago. It is okay-ish, but it is pretty slow compared to what is available. Thus it is a good desktop machine for non-3D workflows. Like using Word or Web Browsing at 4K. I can not imagine anyone having problems with that. It will likely be quite snappy. I think anyone interested in 3D games will be dissatisfied with the GPU performance, and that will be very pronounced at high screen (4K) resolutions. I could see picking these up for our non-developer non-content creator employees. But not for our developers or 3D artists.
- nextos 10y agoI find fanless designs that use Intel NUCs, or similar, way more interesting [1-5]. If I want power, I'd do a custom build and use a much bigger form factor for better cooling and FLOPS/$. [1] http://www.fit-pc.com/web/ http://www.fit-pc.com/web/ [2] http://www.logicsupply.com/ http://www.logicsupply.com/ [3] http://www.aleutia.com/computers/ http://www.aleutia.com/computers/ [4] http://www.cirrus7.com/produkte http://www.cirrus7.com/produkte [5] http://www.fanlesstech.com/ http://www.fanlesstech.com/
- petecox 10y agoWell obviously this is a "performance" NUC but it surprises me they don't offer a Core-M model (price?), which would facilitate a fanless 'kit', without specialised 3rd-party housing. I don't need the performance, so if I'd probably go with the budget sensitive Celeron-based Brix that is fanless. Braswell based, so I guess Apollo Lake will be another year away.
- nextos 10y agoYes, I couldn't agree more. All of the ones I posted above are fanless. There are many cases that would allow you to build a fanless NUC by replacing Intel's case.
- trengrj 10y agoDid Intel just release a PC with a skull on it?
- petepete 10y agoDon't worry, it comes with an "Additional lid without skull on it".
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- quantumhobbit 10y agoCan I get an additional lid with flames so that it will go faster?
- mcbain 10y agoYes, if you have a 3D printer: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/intel-nuc-kits/000005873.html http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-ki...
- hhandoko 10y agoProduct codename whilst in development was Skull Canyon: http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/74691/Skull-Canyon http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/74691/Skull-Canyon
- wmf 10y agoIntel's "extreme gaming" stuff has had skulls on it for years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Skulltrail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Skulltrail http://www.anandtech.com/show/7803/intel-ssd-730-480gb-review http://www.anandtech.com/show/7803/intel-ssd-730-480gb-revie...
- damienkatz 10y agoAre they the baddies?
- hoodoof 10y agoMentioned by Jeff Atwood https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-golden-age-of-x86-gaming/ https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-golden-age-of-x86-gaming/
- Arnt 10y agoSo it has three video outputs, but can it drive all three? The big advantage of a stationary computer over a laptop these days is that it can drive displays, in the plural, so that your use-case is the only factor deciding how many screens to have.
- lloydsparkes 10y agoIntel say it can drive 3x 4k Screens at the same time (2 over DP @ 60Hz, 1 over HDMI 2 ~ 30Hz if I recall correctly)
- Arnt 10y agoWhat? It doesn't have 2×DP according to the specs at the top of the page.
- jamestnz 10y agoWith DP you may daisy-chain additional displays off the first. http://www.displayport.org/cables/driving-multiple-displays-from-a-single-displayport-output/ http://www.displayport.org/cables/driving-multiple-displays-...
- chupasaurus 10y agoIt can use DP over Type-C, so it has
- m_eiman 10y agoI like that they're putting a Thunderbolt 3 port on it, perhaps this generation of Thunderbolt can escape the high end and be more generally useful?
- valarauca1 10y agoThunderbolt 3 is going to rule the world (or will shortly). Thunderbolt 3 is USB3.2 (Or the new USB-C that is being hyped). At the same time it is also Mini-Display Port, and Mini-PCIe. This connector is posed to eat the world.
- drcross 10y agoI've been waiting for a long time for decent TB3 peripherals, manufacturers are very slow. I simply want a thunderbolt to dual hdmi with a few USBs so that I can put my tower on the opposite side of my room.
- SmellyGeekBoy 10y ago> wicked ... totally cool ...With words like this and the skull design, at least their marketing department are "down with the kids" - rad!
- ourmandave 10y agoStrangely, none of the pictures gives you a point of reference to it's actual size (which is 8.3" x 4.5" x 1.1"). Usually they show it being held up or next to a common reference, like a quarter, or coffee cup, or the front page of today's newspaper.
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- JorgeGT 10y agoI guess the ports (USB, HDMI) give you a decent size estimation? Or at least for me it does.
- lloydsparkes 10y agoIts about the size of a VHS tape
- coredog64 10y agoA what?
- jonathankoren 10y agoA thing that only fools that don't appreciate quality purchase. It's a little bit bigger than a betamax.
- thrill 10y agoIt's a little bigger than a deck of 50 punch cards.
- dbyte 10y agoThis is pure marketing-driven engineering. Not a bad thing per-se but they should start considering also a more pragmatic approach. They should pick a form-factor that can be future-proofed and avoid changing their mind every iteration. Current NUC form factor is too small for high TDP cpu, because of cooling, and instead of adjusting the current form-factor (e.g. expanding its width) they created another (maybe pointless) design. Advice to management start considering also the medium-term landscape. I will be more than happy to replace my NUCs is you give me consistency. If in doubt ask Apple.
- ClassyPuff 10y agoPretty decent GPU performance, 80% performance of the non-overclocked 4790K, which is my go to desktop processor these days I would get one of these the day it come out.
- andybak 10y agoFor anyone else baffled by another TLA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Unit_of_Computing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Unit_of_Computing
- lsaferite 10y agoAnd for someone baffled by TLA?
- akaij 10y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-letter_acronym https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-letter_acronym
- lsaferite 10y agoThanks! Funny that I knew NUC but not TLA. I'd love to see forums that automatically cited acronyms like this.
- moosingin3space 10y agoSounds like there's a market for a browser extension for this.
- Someone1234 10y agoIndeed. But I'd worry about both false positives and far too many meanings for the same letters based on context.
- 0x6c6f6c 10y agoConnecting to one of those websites that list possible acronym meanings, you could hover over a TLA and it will list possibilities? Or right click and show more.. Something along those lines
- 10y ago
- Esau 10y agoA review, in case in interests anyone: http://nucblog.net/2016/05/skull-canyon-nuc-review/ http://nucblog.net/2016/05/skull-canyon-nuc-review/
- jpt4 10y agoA few of my friends and I are working on the design of a robust, portable computing form factor. After previously consdering various of the Gigabyte Brix Pro series, we settled on the Skull Canyon as the core of the ensemble, currently composed of: 1) Intel NUC Kit NUC6i7KYK 2) 32 (2 x 16) GiB DDR4 2133MHz RAM (G.SKILL Ripjaws) 3) 512 GB M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 950 Pro) 4) 9.7" 2048x1536 DisplayPort Monitor (Adafruit Qualia kit) 5) 104 key mechanical keyboard w/Cherry MX Blue switches (DAS Professional) Everything worked the first time it was plugged together, and now the system can run StarCraft II: LoTV with medium settings under Wine on Arch GNU/Linux. The next steps are to transform the output from a LiFePo4 motorcycle battery (via a DC-DC converter) to the correct voltage, furnish a case and smaller keyboard, and start testing/optimizing the setup in the field. Edit: The 45W TDP of the NUC6i7KYK was its main advantage when compared to discretely sourcing comparable or superior components for a mini-ITX build. Even after doubling the power draw to account for a screen, speakers, and additional cooling, two kilograms of lithium should provide two hours of roaming battery life (and weight minimization is low on our priority list).
- gm-conspiracy 10y agoPics? Please.
- jpt4 10y agoA picture of the initial set-up and first boot from USB: https://github.com/jpt4/cots/blob/master/IMG_20160522_053135023_HDR.jpg https://github.com/jpt4/cots/blob/master/IMG_20160522_053135...
- gm-conspiracy 10y agoKeep up the good werk!
- kogepathic 10y ago> 4) 9.7" 2048x1536 DisplayPort Monitor (Adafruit Qualia kit) That monitor is horribly overpriced for what you get. The LCD can be purchased in QTY 1 from AliExpress for $25 USD with free shipping to almost anywhere in the world. [1] A guy in Japan makes a DP board which is better than the Adafruit one and which you can buy for about $40 USD shipped from Japan (3,500 JPY + 800 JPY shipping). [2] I've bought 5 so far and they all work great. One was DOA but the seller kindly shipped me a replacement free of charge. It's also 5V powered, so you can power it directly from the computer using a USB cable, no need for an extra 9V (seriously, 9V. why?) power supply. You can easily laser cut a stand from plywood or lexan to mount the LCD. Or, you can buy the actual iPad aluminium housing ($22 + $8 for the digitizer glass) and mount the adapter on the back. It really bothers me that Adafruit is selling that kit for $225 when you can build one yourself for well under $100. Their profit margins must be insane. [1] http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20160615051558&SearchText=LP097qx1 http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB... (If the link is broken, just search AliExpress for the LP097QX1) [2] http://abusemark.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=47&zenid=lcgtihp4gkkl5a14ub8tic3c45 http://abusemark.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&...
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- MulliMulli 10y agoAMD releases a few low budget cards later this month (RX460 ~$100) so you can build a halfway decent gaming rack for $400-500.
- samwestdev 10y agoWay way too pricy
- bitL 10y agoZBOX NEN seems to be better for gaming due to 970M, albeit a bit pricier. 4x faster GPU, even some 4k games are playable. And very quiet.
- cm2187 10y agoIt's not new news, they were released a month ago. I have one, it's pretty fast but it's also much nosier than less powerful mini PCs.
- jimaek 10y agoStill waiting for HTPCs that support HDMI 2.0a aka HDR support. Unfortunately this one doesn't.
- twoooeazz 10y ago4k (3840 × 2160 @ 60Hz) is already possible since the NUC Rock Canyon models[0] and Maple Canyon models[1], all based on 5th gen core processors code named Broadwell, available since Q1/2015. The latest are the Swift Canyon models[2] based on the 6th gen core processors code named Skylake, available since Q4/2015, joined now by Skull Canyon[3]. [0] http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/77659 http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/77659 [1] http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/75423 http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/75423 [2] http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/85413 http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/85413 [3] http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/74691 http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/74691
- alanfranzoni 10y agoIt seems that all those top out at dual core, btw. Any quad core?
- themihai 10y agono a/d wifi... :|
- themihai 10y agoNo a/d wifi... :|
- gcb0 10y agoAMD has for several years, the almost free compared to intel prices, 4cored 5350 apu. it serves 4k out of display port ot hdmi. and is very low watt (my htpc runs passively cooled. though not pumping 4k, wich is useless still) sadly it's mostly ignored by everyone because there's only two relevant motherboards for it.
- ChuckMcM 10y agoLike you, I'm surprised that AMD doesn't have the NUC equivalent. Back when Via invented the "ITX" standard and Intel dismissed it, AMD sold quite a few CPUs in that form factor. Now while "NUC" is an Intel take on small, it could easily be done by AMD (and as you point out possibly better than Intel can). Further if AMD was the system supplier (like Intel is for the NUC) they could get better margins on the chips they sold in those systems. Its too bad really.
- ChuckMcM 10y agoI'm tempted to replace my NUC5i7RYH with this one. Although Linux support has been spotty and the xfsettingsd bug was quite painful. That said, something like this with a terabyte of cross-point (aka "Optane") flash in it will no doubt eventually be my working desktop.
- jmkni 10y agoIntel's website is confusing. This looks cool, I want to buy one, but there's nothing to suggest how much it costs or where to get one.
- Someone1234 10y ago$649.99 (+tax/postage). You can buy it on NewEgg, B&H Photo, and Adorama search for NUC6i7KYK. Amazon has a listing but it is for a third party seller who is charging $669 (+$19). Best of luck :)
- jmkni 10y agoGood to know, thanks!
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- vegabook 10y agoI use a bunch of NUCs for prototyping cluster development for Cassandra, Celery, and Storm. I believe the economics are much better than doing the same with cloud, because I don't feel that nagging "tick tock" of metered usage. I bought 6 gigabyte BRIX PROs, stuffed them each with 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD, each has 4790 CPUs, and I feel very good about prototyping in my own time on this little cluster, for deployment later. Perfect "training" system.
- williesleg 10y agoYeah pretty slick, but the fans kick in when you're doing heavy workloads, I guess that's better than melting.