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Confirmshaming
- geofft 10y agoI'm pretty sure that Duolingo one is photoshopped. The mascot's name is "Duo", not "Language Bird." (The image, however, is what you get if you get too many words wrong: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc9NiTxCUAA1Qek.png https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc9NiTxCUAA1Qek.png)
- iaw 10y agoThat was the only one up there that I thought was reasonably humorous and good natured.
- pen2l 10y agoYeah, that doesn't belong there. If I understand it right, the emails are trying to convince you to practice... as one needs to, when learning a language. That's like the only acceptable reason to annoy/spam people, "COME ON JOHNNNN, WHEN YOU GONNA PRACTICE YOUR SPANISH LIKE YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA"
- BorgHunter 10y agoA couple weeks ago I got a "please come back"-type email from Duolingo with an identical image, but a more mundane message. Subject of the email is "We miss you!" https://imgur.com/FOJubnI https://imgur.com/FOJubnI
- ikeboy 10y agohttps://imgur.com/iIK58E0 https://imgur.com/iIK58E0 (From dsfba.com)
- chillacy 10y agoWow, someone messed up the button sizing there. Unless they both go to the same place and the tiny text below is the opt out
- pfista 10y agoReminds me of mobile apps that periodically ask if I like the application. If I say yes, then they inevitably ask for a review on the app store.
- tdaltonc 10y agoI downloaded the FoxNews app to watch a presidential debate (must have been about a year ago) and I was shocked to see them doing that. The question was something like "Do you love this app?," the 'yes' button linked directly to an app store review prompt and the 'No' button just closed the prompt. I would have assumed that pre-screening reviews like that would be against the app store rules. Also the app didn't work and I had to find a stream of it online.
- squeaky-clean 10y agoThere's no winning with some of them. If you select 4 stars or higher "Great, please continue to the app store and review us!". If you answer with 3 or fewer, "Oh no! Please visit our contact page and tell us how we can make it better!"
- chillacy 10y agoThe sad reality is that you can have thousands of users and no reviews if you don't do that stuff. And because the (apple) app store wipes reviews every update, it also encourages devs to never update, lest they go and nag all their users again. All around difficult situation for apps, especially if you go about it as a solo dev. Also sad that the most effective way to get a bunch of 5 stars is to say in your app: Have a free X item if you rate us 5 stars! <link to app store>, nevermind that there's no way of actually verifying that they left you any feedback, nonetheless plenty of people actually do it.
- __jal 10y agoYou can almost smell the "growth hacker" desperation.
- Splines 10y agoEvery app does this, and I hate it. What grinds my gears is the negative review dark pattern funnel (i.e., ask a user if they like the app, if not, keep them in the app and get feedback. If they do like the app, forward them on to the app store). I was in the middle of using your app, don't bother me.
- xirdstl 10y agoI will on occasion go out of my way to visit the app store and leave a 1 star review when this happens.
- cespare 10y agoRelated to http://passwordshaming.tumblr.com/ http://passwordshaming.tumblr.com/.
- kazinator 10y agoWhen a site insists that certain characters are not allowed in passwords, that is strong indication that they are storing them clear-text in text files. Those characters are disallowed because they would cause delimiting issues for the shell/sed/awk/perl/php crap they are using to process those files, or db injection attacks. A proper password hashing function takes any byte string.
- Programmatic 10y agoI can give the quantum of the benefit of the doubt and assume that they're just possibly overly defensive for SQL injections if they're using the DB to do the hashing. They should be using parametrization anyhow and HAND, but maybe they missed that memo.
- ryanlol 10y ago>When a site insists that certain characters are not allowed in passwords, that is strong indication that they are storing them clear-text in text files. Except it really isn't, while stupid this is hardly uncommon in software that does hashing.
- jameshart 10y agoIt's often just a reflexive behavior on a website. Fields which have to be displayed back to the user naturally tend to have reasonable restrictions on what characters they can contain (no linebreaks is a common one, for example). The fact that passwords will never be displayed back to anybody (ideally) is no deterrent to your typical business analyst writing a hundred page spec for the account management pages, and just like every other field on the site they will place some arbitrary length restriction on the field, and pronounce that certain special characters are off limits. Programmers will then implement the restrictions because hey, it's an easy two points. There are, actually, a couple of reasonable UX reasons for placing some restrictions on the characters someone can use in a password. If you hope that they will be able to enter the same password from another device later, you want to encourage them not to exploit all the wonderful input possibilities afforded by their plug-in emoji keyboard on their phone. Sadly I don't think this kind of reason underlies any restrictions I've ever seen in the wild.
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- alttab 10y agoIf anything, I get a little chuckle when I see this stuff. I'm sure we've all been there trying to make things clearer for the user. That said, I'm more concerned with the fact that I can't go to any web page these days without getting one of these pop-ups. It's even worse when the pop-up comes 20 seconds later since loading all of the Javascript takes a while on mobile - and then shows up halfway down the page. It's even worse when being scrolled down the page prevents the widget from rendering correctly. The internet is quickly becoming a ghetto, and other parts of the internet (Facebook, Instagram, Reddit) are getting incrementally controlled and censored. ... Sigh ...
- coldpie 10y agoNoScript, my friend! Sadly no good solution for mobile.
- TD-Linux 10y agoWhat's wrong with NoScript on mobile? Just breaks too many sites?
- JohnTHaller 10y agoParent is likely talking about Chrome since it doesn't support extensions. Firefox on Android can use NoScript, uBlock or what have you without missing a beat.
- icebraining 10y agoYeap! https://noscript.net/nsa/ https://noscript.net/nsa/
- pasbesoin 10y agoJust getting a new phone set up with what I want. So, hadn't looked for it, previously. By viewing the addons.mozilla.org NoScript entry and then clicking on "View All Versions", I was able to find a mobile (NSA) version in the version history. I started with that, as I'm leery of installing from third parties until I have some confidence that the source is authentic and uncompromised. I'd appreciate some feedback on the current thinking / best practice for installing NoScript (Anywhere?) on Firefox mobile (on Android 6).
- fisherjeff 10y ago> No thanks, I'll stick to the latest Adam Sandler films. Okay, Esquire, that one's kinda good.
- kbenson 10y agoWhile somewhat egregious and dark, the Duolingo language bird one made me laugh.
- gl2748 10y agoThis was the original: https://www.google.com/search?q=national+lampoon+puppy&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=6qh&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0kr_QuZbNAhUPKFIKHbkDAW8Q_AUIBygB&biw=1873&bih=983 https://www.google.com/search?q=national+lampoon+puppy&safe=...
- clizzin 10y agoHere's another Tumblr collecting passive-aggressive opt-out messages: http://cruelestoptouts.tumblr.com/ http://cruelestoptouts.tumblr.com/
- ComodoHacker 10y ago"To submit a cruel opt-out form, click here!" Very deceptive! I thought it's a live example of such form.
- xirdstl 10y agoIdea: browser extension that transforms the confirmation text to something more .. colorful.
- Karunamon 10y agoI've got a list of rules for FoxReplace on a github repo... Mostly centered around taking the piss out of various contentious political issues, and I recently added the whole set of XKCD substitutions. I'd link it but I'm on mobile right now.
- galistoca 10y agoYeah but instead transform the modal into something more.. invisible..
- larrykubin 10y agoReminds me of the canvassers on the street whose line is always "do you have a second for the environment?", "do you believe in equal rights?", "would you like to prevent puppies from dying?", etc.
- twinkletwinkle 10y agoEqual rights?? We should never have given <them> shoes!
- Splines 10y agoWhat gets me is when the canvasser goes into mock-surprise mode when you tell them no. Dude, you and I both know that your job here is to try to sell something to me, so don't be shocked if I'm not interested.
- tenpies 10y agoYou also see it in the naming of groups/movements (e.g. Black Lives Matter). "Do you agree with Black Lives Matter?". The almost reflective response is "yes" because saying no makes you sound like a KKK member.
- nacs 10y agoOr the name of pretty much every anti-rights/anti-privacy bill like "The Patriot Act".
- gadders 10y ago
- dageshi 10y agoSeems to me this is the kind of behaviour that's going to have people reaching for technical solutions so as to never see the popover in the first place...
- andykmaguire 10y agoFirst Round Capital does this on their blog. Reject subscribe popup requires clicking "No I don't want to learn more"
- chinathrow 10y agoCurious: has confirmation shaming increased conversion? Can someone confirm or provide some insights?
- nsxwolf 10y agoEarliest I remember seeing this was the defunct mobile gaming platform OpenFeint. Every time you launched an OpenFeint integrated app, you'd get the splash screen and the dismiss button was "No thanks, I don't want these awesome features".
- rdiddly 10y agoInteresting how many of them are literally true for me, with no shame whatsoever, because it's hard-won personal wisdom, which is a source of pride, not shame. Examples: I don't want to know about power breakfasts. I'm not interested in delicious recipes. (I already know how to cook the things I like.) I'd rather be sleeping. (True dat.) Continue with boring old email. (It's fine.) I reject my free issue. (And all subsequent ones. Really just, don't encourage them.) I do not want to get the most important news in my inbox. I prefer to pay full price. (And thereby be free of a lot of bullshit.)
- agentgt 10y agoThis is one of the reasons I still enjoy paper magazines and yes even catalogs. I remember being on a plane trying to read some article and just giving up and reading the SkyMall magazine the whole flight. The damn SkyMall magazine foisted on all delta fliers (and takes up valuable space) is less invasive than todays ad pop crap. While magazines certainly have some annoying things (like the paper subscription post cards) and I suppose the eco unfriendliness these negatives are starting to look continuously better than the alternative. Ironical I think I was even shamed by a publisher recently for ordering "the paper copy". I know many banks do this as well... damn you for wanting paper... we must pop-up shame you and paper makes that difficult. I suppose PDF is a good middle ground.
- tamana 10y agoSkyMall no longer publishes printed catalogs to airplane seats.
- ssharp 10y agoI think a fair majority of these exit-intent popins are designed and delivered by BounceExchange, or at least influenced by what BounceExchange has set as the standard. They specialize in implementing this kind of stuff and have a wealth of data and a/b tests to back up their use and this type of "confirmshaming".
- Dowwie 10y agoOn Esquire: “No thanks, I’ll stick to the latest Adam Sandler films.”
- x1798DE 10y agoIs there anything that blocks these modal dialogs on mobile? I absolutely hate these things, but they don't seem to be blocked by uBlock.
- vinchuco 10y agoDoes adblock catch these? Shouldn't it?