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But PIR, which runs the .ORG registry, does operate in the US, and thus US law applies to them.

by lambda 10y ago

toomuchtodo 10y ago
Which is an odd scenario, isn't it? A US private firm (the RIAA) applying pressure to a US technical registry for US interests when The Pirate Bay doesn't infringe per the letter of the law, nor resides within the United States.
- ikeboy 10y ago
  >The Pirate Bay doesn't infringe per the letter of the law This is your opinion. So far I haven't seen any US precedent for this, and it's by no means obvious that it's not infringing.
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  - benmcnelly 10y ago
    Hey did you know that you can go to pirate bay website and find links to content that may not be legal? ^ Am I obviously infringing as well?
    - ikeboy 10y ago
      I never said they're obviously infringing. I said they're not obviously non-infringing. Your comment I would classify as obviously non infringing. Two obvious differences (not the only two): you haven't linked to anything, and you aren't being paid any money for your comment. Did you know TPB founders have gone to prison for copyright infringement? I think the judge did not feel their actions were "obviously not infringing".
      - Dylan16807 10y ago
        > Your comment I would classify as obviously non infringing. Two obvious differences (not the only two): you haven't linked to anything, and you aren't being paid any money for your comment. If that's not linking, then the pirate bay doesn't link either. They supply a description and a SHA1. You have to locate the content yourself. You have to locate the people that have the content yourself. What if TPB didn't have ads?
        ikeboy 10y ago
        >What if TPB didn't have ads? Then it's more complicated, and depends on other distinctions I alluded to above.
EdHominem 10y ago
Which is a horrible precedent. If any piece of your infrastructure exists in the USA, even another service serving you, you're guilty of whatever they want. The internet is global. If N. Korea shouldn't be able to extradite you for promoting democracy, the USA shouldn't have any legal power to influence DNS.

But PIR, which runs the .ORG registry, does operate in the US, and thus US law applies to them.

by lambda 10y ago

But PIR, which runs the .ORG registry, does operate in the US, and thus US law applies to them.

Which is an odd scenario, isn't it? A US private firm (the RIAA) applying pressure to a US technical registry for US interests when The Pirate Bay doesn't infringe per the letter of the law, nor resides within the United States.

ikeboy 10y ago
>The Pirate Bay doesn't infringe per the letter of the law This is your opinion. So far I haven't seen any US precedent for this, and it's by no means obvious that it's not infringing.
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- benmcnelly 10y ago
  Hey did you know that you can go to pirate bay website and find links to content that may not be legal? ^ Am I obviously infringing as well?
  - ikeboy 10y ago
    I never said they're obviously infringing. I said they're not obviously non-infringing. Your comment I would classify as obviously non infringing. Two obvious differences (not the only two): you haven't linked to anything, and you aren't being paid any money for your comment. Did you know TPB founders have gone to prison for copyright infringement? I think the judge did not feel their actions were "obviously not infringing".
    - Dylan16807 10y ago
      > Your comment I would classify as obviously non infringing. Two obvious differences (not the only two): you haven't linked to anything, and you aren't being paid any money for your comment. If that's not linking, then the pirate bay doesn't link either. They supply a description and a SHA1. You have to locate the content yourself. You have to locate the people that have the content yourself. What if TPB didn't have ads?
      - ikeboy 10y ago
        >What if TPB didn't have ads? Then it's more complicated, and depends on other distinctions I alluded to above.

EdHominem 10y ago

Which is a horrible precedent. If any piece of your infrastructure exists in the USA, even another service serving you, you're guilty of whatever they want. The internet is global. If N. Korea shouldn't be able to extradite you for promoting democracy, the USA shouldn't have any legal power to influence DNS.