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They don't have evidence that glyphosate is a carcinogen. They are using general classifications to infer potential harm. Glyphosate is in the same class as co

by searine 10y ago

They don't have evidence that glyphosate is a carcinogen. They are using general classifications to infer potential harm. Glyphosate is in the same class as cooked meat. This is also likely political posturing to appease anti-gmo sentiments.

pbhjpbhj 10y ago
Cooked meats are carcinogenic though (eg http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/cooked-meats-fact-sheet http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/di...) aren't they? So ... are you saying glyphosate is known to be mutagenic and likely to cause cancers or that the common understanding on cooked meats is wrong. I'm not clear how the mutagenic properties reported in cooked meats appease "anti-gmo sentiments" as 'organic' meats are as likely to be cooked as others. You're being very vociferous in your arguing perhaps you got carried away in your claims for Monsanto products?
- searine 10y ago
  >So ... are you saying glyphosate is known to be mutagenic and likely to cause cancers or that the common understanding on cooked meats is wrong. I'm saying that glyphosate is probably less carcinogenic considering it has less evidence of mutagenesis than meat. And despite millions of tons of meat being consumed by the kilogram per week, we see relatively low levels of colon cancer. We eat several dozen orders of magnitude less glyphosate/POEA. The conclusion then, is obvious.
  - mcbits 10y ago
    > we see relatively low levels of colon cancer. "Of cancers that affect both men and women, colorectal cancer is the second leading cause of cancer-related deaths in the United States and the third most common cancer in men and in women." http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/colorectal/statistics/index.htm http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/colorectal/statistics/index.htm
    - searine 10y ago
      Relative. People are eating kilograms of meat a week, and colon cancer is far from the leading cause of death. Remember dosage is important!
      - mcbits 10y ago
        It is one of the leading causes of death, but I guess compared to heart disease, you could say every other cause of death is relatively rare and can be dismissed.

by searine 10y ago

pbhjpbhj 10y ago

Cooked meats are carcinogenic though (eg http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/cooked-meats-fact-sheet http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/di...) aren't they? So ... are you saying glyphosate is known to be mutagenic and likely to cause cancers or that the common understanding on cooked meats is wrong. I'm not clear how the mutagenic properties reported in cooked meats appease "anti-gmo sentiments" as 'organic' meats are as likely to be cooked as others. You're being very vociferous in your arguing perhaps you got carried away in your claims for Monsanto products?

searine 10y ago
>So ... are you saying glyphosate is known to be mutagenic and likely to cause cancers or that the common understanding on cooked meats is wrong. I'm saying that glyphosate is probably less carcinogenic considering it has less evidence of mutagenesis than meat. And despite millions of tons of meat being consumed by the kilogram per week, we see relatively low levels of colon cancer. We eat several dozen orders of magnitude less glyphosate/POEA. The conclusion then, is obvious.
- mcbits 10y ago
  > we see relatively low levels of colon cancer. "Of cancers that affect both men and women, colorectal cancer is the second leading cause of cancer-related deaths in the United States and the third most common cancer in men and in women." http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/colorectal/statistics/index.htm http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/colorectal/statistics/index.htm
  - searine 10y ago
    Relative. People are eating kilograms of meat a week, and colon cancer is far from the leading cause of death. Remember dosage is important!
    - mcbits 10y ago
      It is one of the leading causes of death, but I guess compared to heart disease, you could say every other cause of death is relatively rare and can be dismissed.