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Magic Leap: A New Morning [video]
- ck2 10y agoIf google glass had this, adoption would have taken off.
- ZenoArrow 10y agoIf I was being cynical, I'd say that's exactly why they're funding it. http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/21/7026889/magic-leap-google-leads-542-million-investment-in-augmented-reality-startup http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/21/7026889/magic-leap-google...
- ck2 10y agoGlass 2.0 is going to rocketship. Especially if they make the hardware far more subtle somehow. Though popup spam might give you a heart-attack. Could become an ancient ancestor to "ghost in the shell" type of living with external memory. Also solves the "problem" of 3D hologram TV, who would need it anymore.
- ZenoArrow 10y ago> "Could become an ancient ancestor to "ghost in the shell" type of living with external memory." If you like anime and AR, you may be interested in Dennō Coil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennō_Coil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennō_Coil
- alex_duf 10y agoIf google glass had more than 45 minutes of battery life it would have taken off.
- sirtaj 10y agoIf they hadn't positioned Glass as "a wifi webcam on your face!!" in all their marketing, you mean. What geeks wanted was AR. What we got was... not that.
- neotek 10y agoThe cynic in me wants to dismiss this as just another marketing video from a company yet to show us anything tangible, but the child in me desperately wants this to be a reality. Please, please let this be real.
- vonklaus 10y agoThe bottom has fine print saying the entire video was shot directly using magic leap technology and using 0 post processing with the only addition being [this] text explanation.
- nxzero 10y agoGiven the slow movement, wonder if there was a person wearing the their tech, or if it's mechanical.
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- amelius 10y agoI hope this will be open hardware. That is, without a gatekeeping entity that will control sales of software on the platform. Otherwise, meh, I'll wait for a similar piece of hardware from a different manufacturer. Demo looks cool though.
- fapjacks 10y agoLet's be honest though: Google et al have set the standard and now it's every hardware developer's dream to create a platform that they can then use to extract 30% of all app sales on. As a heavy crowdfunder of hardware projects, it is a rare gem that isn't one of those awful closed platforms hoping to become a walled garden.
- awinter-py 10y agoI love that this is based on a vibrating fiber optic designed for colonoscopies.
- npatrick04 10y agoIt looks very cool, but they definitely moved & rotated slowly in the video. Hopefully they can keep the motion tracking processing latency low enough to not cause nausea.
- interpol_p 10y agoEven with the slow movement it's quite jittery. Not sure how much that affects the experience. The other thing is the demo environment is very dark. All the lamps are dim and angled towards the walls.
- IshKebab 10y agoActually that's an interesting point - Oculus has shown that you can do tracking and display updates on a traditional display fast enough to appear more or less fixed to the world. But Magic Leap's display has a physically spinning component. I wonder if you move quickly there is a gyroscopic precesion effect that distorts the display...
- astletron 10y agoSometimes you eat the jellyfish. Sometimes the jellyfish eat you. I guess.
- seibelj 10y agoCurious what the head gear looked like. Also, the vibrations of the models were very jarring to me, I could barely look at it anymore by the time the video ended. Obviously this is amazing technology, but I can't adopt it until 1) It doesn't make me sick, and 2) I don't look like a total doofus while using it.
- raesene6 10y agoThe video looks very cool and the opacity of the AR images was darn good. That said Magic Leap are still awfully light on some key details like :- - Will it be tethered or untethered. - If it's untethered what's the FOV like (looked good in that video) - If it's untethered what's the battery life like.. They already have competition in the untethered space (hololens) and the tethered space (Meta 2), who look to be ahead of them in terms of getting a product to market (both have actual kits in the hands of 3rd party developers) I really hope Magic leap will be good, but I must admit a level of cynicism about the lack of solid detail on the product and technology
- IshKebab 10y agoIt was hard to tell if there was any 'opacity' at all. Looks like a bright light over a dim background which seems like the only way you could physically do it, given what we know about their technology.
- jyxent 10y agoMagic Leap has a patent which includes: "occlusion mask device comprises a display configured to either occlude or pass light at each of a plurality of portions of the display, depending upon a pertinent command to occlude or pass light at each portion." https://www.google.com/patents/US20130128230 https://www.google.com/patents/US20130128230
- IshKebab 10y agoHmm well I guess we'll have to wait and see (patents can describe anything they want).
- Nogwater 10y agoWhat's the field of view?
- wrs 10y agoSo this is the future! Someone trying to get work done while being totally distracted by bleeping notifications and virtual jellyfish. Grrkidsoffmylawn...
- svig 10y agoThe MR effects are awesome, but for the use cases the demo targets, it needs to be more...seamless? Probably it is just the way the demo was shot. Also, I would love for them to dismiss the windows, declutter the space and pull other things back in. I understand this just showcases all possibilities, but I feel a story could be told better. For instance, the email around Mt. Everest project was cool. Showing an interaction with the project would have been cooler. But, fun stuff nevertheless.
- iLoch 10y agoI'm not skeptical that this is real footage "shot from Magic Leap technology", however I am skeptical that the final product will be anywhere near this good. Microsoft announced HoloLens around a year ago now (I think?) and they were able to show videos like this at that time. My expectation of what the disclaimer in this video is saying is that you can use Magic Leap "technology" without using the consumer hardware. Microsoft has shown us how amazing this technology can be when you hook it up to very expensive gear that's tethered, etc. HoloLens probably represents the best technology we've ever seen in this field, and even still you have a very limited FOV and 3D capability in the consumer product. Sorry, but I don't think Magic Leap developers have the ability to solve this problem better than Microsoft Research.
- Grazester 10y ago"Wired claims the quality of Magic Leap's virtual objects "exceeds all others," http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/19/11457880/magic-leap-photonic-lightfield-chip-features http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/19/11457880/magic-leap-photon...
- erikpukinskis 10y ago43 exceeds 42.
- rtkwe 10y ago> "shot from Magic Leap technology" That's my main concern. Microsoft could have reasonably made the same claim about the HoloLens-on-a-Camera setup that they were using during their announcement videos that ultimately didn't show the actual view. The graphics and fidelity were really similar from what I've heard but the experience as a whole wasn't close. My biggest concern with the video's we've seen is a) how closely this FOV matches the real thing b) what kind of processing power this will require (AR gets much less interesting if it requires a highend PC attached to do the rendering and tracking) and c) what that room actually looks like, ie every Magic Leap video that's been shown as shot through the actual technology looks like it's REALLY DIM.
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- rfurlan 10y agoHoloLens user here, based on this video alone, the experience appears to be equivalent, although holograms appear to be a bit more stable on HoloLens, which also has no trouble tracking fast head movements
- rfurlan 10y agoHere is a video I recorded with HoloLens, but not through it, the actual holograms are transparent on the headset: https://goo.gl/photos/S2B9A8xkvyLkPK7U8 https://goo.gl/photos/S2B9A8xkvyLkPK7U8
- vezycash 10y ago>the actual holograms are transparent on the headset Lovely video. You mean the holograms appear transparent in real life usage? Have you tried watching a full movie through the HoloLens? Could you make another video while watching a video on a 90inch screen?
- rfurlan 10y agoYes, the holograms are literally objects made of light so at low brightness they are transparent, but if you crank up they will appear solid but you still won't confuse it for a real object because they are so bright. I haven't watched a whole movie on it yet, but it wouldn't be a problem, the device is reasonably comfortable so you can wear it for hours
- vezycash 10y agoThanks for the initial video. For long, I've fantasized carrying a theater screen around if you know I mean. So if you don't mind, I'd love to see the maximum size the movie app's screen could scale on the hololens. Also, if you're doing the vid, kindly add lazy mode scene" where you lie down watching a video affixed to the ceiling.
- tigeba 10y agoDoes the HoloLens work outdoors at all, or is it restricted to very dim lighting?
- 10dpd 10y agoHas a timeline for Magic Leap ever been made public?
- jonahx 10y agoDoes the user need to wear some kind of glasses to experience this? If so, how big are they? If not, how is it achieved?
- foreigner 10y agoLooked fun... right up until the side-effects kicked in and he started hallucinating jellyfish.
- gokhan 10y agoNeed batteries? What's the battery life? Is it heavy? Only eye wear or a helmet? What's the resolution? Can I go outside wearing it? What's the price? Any SDK? What's the timeline? After HoloLens, can this video considered revolutionary to justify 4.5B valuation based on their last round [1]? [1] http://www.wired.com/2016/02/magic-leap-raises-the-biggest-c-round-in-venture-history/ http://www.wired.com/2016/02/magic-leap-raises-the-biggest-c...
- cb18 10y agoWhat's the deal with giving girls these masculine names? Murph? Max? Also, this may be the hardware basis for interfaces of the future.(yes, it's neat, something similar to what many of us have been imagining for a long time I suspect. What does the actual hardware look like though?) But is this the type of software we want? The notification, reactive model? Our time and attention is limited, the beauty of computers is we can access the info we want at any given time, and control its flow. And yet we've set up this paradigm of being bombarded with pointless trivium, there's a business case sure, all the better to squeeze in some sponsored messages, but is there a case for human flourishing here? How many times a day does a device of yours feed you info that only serves to distract from what you're doing at the given moment? These notifications can be turned off of course. I encourage you to do so.
- Erwin 10y ago"Murph" (and the space helmet too) are likely an "Interstellar" reference; Cooper's daughter was named "Murph": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/reference http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/reference Young Murph: Why did you and mom name me after something that's bad? Cooper: Well, we didn't. Young Murph: Murphy's law? Cooper: Murphy's law doesn't mean that something bad will happen. It means that whatever can happen, will happen. And that sounded just fine to us.
- cb18 10y agoCool, I like those kind of subtle references. I've not seen that movie, what little I've seen about it seems interesting. Would you recommend it? That dialogue is reminiscent of "A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write if he is to be ultimately at peace with himself. What one can be, one must be." -Abraham Maslow Edit: Well, glancing at the IMDB page, I'm guessing you would recommend, I didn't know the movie had been so well received.
- dang 10y agoAlso a long article about them here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11526056 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11526056.
- Negative1 10y agoI'm sure that is representative (it doesn't seem that they've solved 'registration' yet) but I'm curious what's behind the camera lens. For all we know it looks like this: http://arcadeheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/swordvr.png http://arcadeheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/swordvr.p... Or it could be a Tango. Or a HoloLens devkit. Have they still not hit investor saturation so they don't want to show what they have because the speculation will bring in more funds than the real thing? Or are they just building up their patents so they can own the technology while companies like MS do the heavy lifting? Do they assume whoever has the smallest AR rig wins so don't want to show their cards yet (assuming this thing is the size of a normal pair of glasses)? Their level of secrecy is actually getting kind of annoying.
- 6stringmerc 10y agoThe more I think about how exciting this could be for education uses, the more reality kicks in with a dose of cynicism that no matter how whiz-bang fancy the presentation method might be, it takes actual personal work and investment to 'learn' things. I mean, sure, watching videos and clicking on stuff is great, but from my studies, I saw very little evidence that such engagements result in much of any valuable retention. Or, in other words, now instead of begging to quit piano lessons, kids can beg to stop having to work through their AR/VR Serato Club DJ Training Modules.
- zappo2938 10y agoHow to learn to code. 10 PRINT "Type a few characters" 20 PRINT "Bang head on wall" 30 GOTO 10
- phodo 10y agoThis reminds me of both the NeXT Steve Jobs demo and the Knowledge Navigator video they shot during Sculley's time.
- jpeg_hero 10y agoIs this Heaven? or is this Hell? I can't tell...