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Exactly. I used to work with a government contracting company. The simplest piece of software took many thousands of dollars in lawyer fees and compliancy. A

Exactly. I used to work with a government contracting company. The simplest piece of software took many thousands of dollars in lawyer fees and compliancy. A beginner dev could build many simple web applications in a day. However, it will probably have security holes and spaghetti code.

gglover 11y ago
I don't think lawyer fees imply anything about the code quality. See: HealthCare.gov fiasco.
- jonesb6 11y ago
  I think OP meant that bootstrapped code, written as quickly as the developer feels like writing it on a weekend, has its own flaws as well.
  - ZanyProgrammer 11y ago
    Though an app showing a randomized arrow veers closely into, well, not Hello World, but an intro example for developing a mobile app. There's not going to be a lot of code to spaghetti-ize.
    - AndyNemmity 11y ago
      In Enterprise software? You'd be surprised...
- ori_b 11y ago
  It implies that you know who to sue if code quality isn't up to scratch. This is important to large organizations for some reason. Even though it may be cheaper to just do it 10 times over with cheap one person shops and throw out the worst 9.
  - scrollaway 11y ago
    And who was sued in the case of the Healthcare.gov debacle? I get the feeling this "knowing who to sue" saying is a bit of a myth.
    - ori_b 11y ago
      I suspect that the myth is that anyone will follow through on it. The ass covering is probably real.
hiimnate 11y ago
>security holes It's an arrow that points in one of two directions. I can not think of a single way this could be made insecure. Even if someone was able to influence the direction the arrow was pointing, everyone is still going through the same ineffective screening process.
- odinduty 11y ago
  They could hack into the iPad to make it display this: http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf High chance somebody gets shot.
  - rimantas 11y ago
    That's a lot of hacking to display Flash on iPad :)
- Johnny555 11y ago
  One way it could be made insecure would be if it didn't use a good source of randomness, so the arrow direction could be predicted. A worst case example would be if the app just cycled through a fixed table of "random" choices like "L R L L R L R R", then the attacker could just watch the pattern and position himself in the line appropriately to make sure that his buddy Joe is the one to screen him. repositioning is easy, just dig through your bag and say to the guy behind you "I can't find my passport, you can go in front of me".
  - Scoundreller 11y ago
    That problem would be solved by making the app very unstable and require constant restarts ;)
  - gambiting 11y ago
    And all of this trouble to achieve.....what exactly?
    - 11y ago

gglover 11y ago

I don't think lawyer fees imply anything about the code quality. See: HealthCare.gov fiasco.

jonesb6 11y ago
I think OP meant that bootstrapped code, written as quickly as the developer feels like writing it on a weekend, has its own flaws as well.
- ZanyProgrammer 11y ago
  Though an app showing a randomized arrow veers closely into, well, not Hello World, but an intro example for developing a mobile app. There's not going to be a lot of code to spaghetti-ize.
  - AndyNemmity 11y ago
    In Enterprise software? You'd be surprised...
ori_b 11y ago
It implies that you know who to sue if code quality isn't up to scratch. This is important to large organizations for some reason. Even though it may be cheaper to just do it 10 times over with cheap one person shops and throw out the worst 9.
- scrollaway 11y ago
  And who was sued in the case of the Healthcare.gov debacle? I get the feeling this "knowing who to sue" saying is a bit of a myth.
  - ori_b 11y ago
    I suspect that the myth is that anyone will follow through on it. The ass covering is probably real.

hiimnate 11y ago

>security holes It's an arrow that points in one of two directions. I can not think of a single way this could be made insecure. Even if someone was able to influence the direction the arrow was pointing, everyone is still going through the same ineffective screening process.

odinduty 11y ago
They could hack into the iPad to make it display this: http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf High chance somebody gets shot.
- rimantas 11y ago
  That's a lot of hacking to display Flash on iPad :)
Johnny555 11y ago
One way it could be made insecure would be if it didn't use a good source of randomness, so the arrow direction could be predicted. A worst case example would be if the app just cycled through a fixed table of "random" choices like "L R L L R L R R", then the attacker could just watch the pattern and position himself in the line appropriately to make sure that his buddy Joe is the one to screen him. repositioning is easy, just dig through your bag and say to the guy behind you "I can't find my passport, you can go in front of me".
- Scoundreller 11y ago
  That problem would be solved by making the app very unstable and require constant restarts ;)
- gambiting 11y ago
  And all of this trouble to achieve.....what exactly?
  - 11y ago