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Show HN: Honest Salary – Help make salaries fair and honest by sharing yours
- Tharkun 11y agoVery US centric. No currency field? Not everyone expresses wages in amount/year. Are these amounts before tax? After tax?
- coldtea 11y ago>Very US centric. Well, it WAS made from Americans, and for US use first and foremost. >Not everyone expresses wages in amount/year. But everyone knows how to multiply, e.g. by 12. The currency field might be legit (through extra work for no benefit: it's easy to convert to USD, and wages aren't really comparable between countries anyway, as they depend on the cost of living and national economy).
- walshemj 11y agoI think most professional Salaried jobs quote salary per year.
- yitchelle 11y agoNot so true in Europe. There are quite a significant number of countries where it is normal to specify a monthly wage rather than a yearly salary. Germany being one of them.
- negrit 11y agoThere is already a ton of websites to check salaries. Glassdoor is the most famous one and I made http://data.jobsintech.io http://data.jobsintech.io last year.
- eecks 11y agoGlassdoor is so spammy
- CydeWeys 11y agoThe one you made seems completely focused on foreign workers. What am I missing? At first glance it does not appear to be of any relevance to me. Also, and this is a usability complaint, but when I'm searching for companies all of the search results are coming up in all lowercase. This is not a good user experience. You should style the companies using the same case that they themselves do. The use of "llc" is particularly bad, as is completely lowercasing companies whose names are acronyms, e.g. "ibm". See this list for what I mean: http://data.jobsintech.io/companies http://data.jobsintech.io/companies
- titusblair 11y agothe site does not have search so maybe you are referring to a different one?
- CydeWeys 11y agoThere's a search bar in the header in the upper right corner on every single page ...
- negrit 11y agoLegal foreign workers are required by law to have the same salary than U.S. workers so it's relevant. >I'm searching for companies all of the search results are coming up in all lowercase. This is not a good user experience. You should style the companies using the same case that they themselves do. The data come from government records and it's all in uppercase.
- malux85 11y agoHey if the creator is here -- you should write "optional" or mark which fields are compulsory ... or somehow indicate it's all optional. I was hesitant to enter the "Employer" details because the combination of all this info would make me personally identifiable ... I abandoned the site, but then came back after thinking "maybe it's optional" most people wouldn't come back!
- titusblair 11y agothanks great feedback it has been updated.
- studentrob 11y agoCool to have another one in case glassdoor disappears or something.. Is the benefit here that this would show a list of salaries whereas glassdoor shows averages? I haven't used glassdoor in awhile but I sort of recall that it checks your domain. Does this do that too?
- effie 11y agoWhat do you mean by "it checks your domain"? Does it change information displayed based on where you connect from?
- studentrob 11y agoSorry, email domain. If I work at Bugaboo then verify my email is rob@bugaboo.com before allowing me to submit a salary for Bugaboo
- effie 11y agoThanks for clarification. That's going to filter out lots of people who don't want to share their identity, unfortunately.
- eitally 11y agoWhy, just why? Besides Glassdoor, there's now comparably.com (which I also question), plus Quora and mobile apps like Blind. Imho, Glassdoor is actually pretty accurate and you can fill in the gaps (things like vesting schedules, promotion paths, etc) through searching and asking questions on Quora.
- mettamage 11y agoHere's a peculiar opinion. I don't have them often, so enjoy ;) I agree that implementing an idea that is fairly common already has a high risk of adding only marginal value. I didn't see the website yet, but I was thinking the same thing "don't we have salary sites already? Why would we need another one?" Then I read your comment and to be honest (and peculiar): if all the value that the website was is having your comment on a HN thread, then it made my day. I never knew that Quora had salary answers. I never knew about Blind and comparably.com either. So your comment, that's why this site should exist. It's a small reason, but a reason nonetheless. There are other reasons as well but other HNers said them already and this is the first one that popped into my mind. To add a few myself that I just learned about: - http://h1bdata.info/ http://h1bdata.info/ - http://visadoor.com/ http://visadoor.com/
- fapjacks 11y agoIt would be a very valuable company, that could automate these kinds of insights and aggregate them for individuals.
- eitally 11y agoAnd to be honest with you, that is exactly why I made the comment, because I suspected the OP (and a large fraction of the readership) didn't know about those (or the h1b search portals). The comments sections of HN is one of my most valuable news sources. :)
- rawnlq 11y agoIf you're a new grad a good place to look at is your school's salary survey. For both MIT and CMU with just a BS the median starting salary is 105k (you have to be bottom half of the class to make less than that!) https://gecd.mit.edu/sites/default/files/documents/2015-gss-survey.pdf https://gecd.mit.edu/sites/default/files/documents/2015-gss-... Min: $70,000 Max: $185,000 Mean: $106,407 https://www.cmu.edu/career/salaries-and-destinations/2015-survey/pdfs-one-pagers/scs-2015-post-grad-stats-12-17-15-kc.pdf https://www.cmu.edu/career/salaries-and-destinations/2015-su... Min: $30,000 Max: $150,000 Mean: $103,608
- itsdrewmiller 11y agoI looked at the MIT one - seems like maybe you misread it? Starting salaries for undergrads are mean and median low 80s. There is a bonus column but it says it's only a measure of the people who got bonus offers in the first place, and even then only brings things into the 90s.
- rawnlq 11y agoYou might be reading the wrong section since this is for all majors. Try searching the numbers I posted to find the line I got it from.
- zump 11y agoWho is getting 185k with just a BS from MIT?
- rawnlq 11y agoSearch for the "2015 Bachelor’s Industry & Employer Data" to see salary range by industry. It seems like it must be from one of the companies in the "Investment Banking" section.
- CydeWeys 11y agoI'm in New York, where the SWE landscape is a combination of traditional big tech companies and finance companies. The latter will pay you a lot, but at the cost of working you to death for it. Finance is not a good field for anyone who wants a life outside of work. The tech companies seem to do much better with work/life balance.
- fiatjaf 11y agohttps://nimbus.everhelper.me/client/notes/share/423790/4ras1k8y7kqwk38kfeuo https://nimbus.everhelper.me/client/notes/share/423790/4ras1...
- TheRealDunkirk 11y agoJust posted this to the other discussion, but it bears just the same. This is just going to be a collection of anecdotes from people who self-select to report because they feel good about where they're at, or because they feel righteously justified in complaining about their situation. Self-selection ruins the data. The responses have to be random to be useful. And the silly thing is that most people who are involved in this business know this.
- coldtea 11y agoIt's not actually that bad. First, even in your version, the "feel goods" (high salaries) and the "complainers" (low salaries) would cancel each other out, and (assuming equal numbers of them) will give us a usable median value. But in the real world is more complicated than "self-selection" in the basic mode you describe. Who might "feel good" and who might feel "justified in complaining" will not be so much based on the salary, but more on the person and their personality (which we can assume are evenly distributed among salaries). In other words, it won't only be actually great salaries that are reported from people "feeling good", nor only low salaries reported from people "justified in complaining". And then you'll also have people that regardless if they consider their salary high or low, they want transparency etc, and report their salaries. The end median result, given enough samples, would be a useful, if not 100% accurate, representation of the situation.
- nck4222 11y ago(which we can assume are evenly distributed among salaries). Why would you assume that? To me it seems the opposite, that they wouldn't be evenly distributed.
- coldtea 11y agoI mean the personalities. I don't think being a "complainer" vs a "feel gooder" personality type changes much based on salary.
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- Tasboo 11y agoHa! I've been working on something similar, but as with all of my side projects, its probably never going to get finished. Good job on getting it out there. I'm sure HN will rip it to shreds, because they are good at that, but kudos to getting something out there!
- titusblair 11y agothanks!
- transman 11y agoAs a transgender person, I won't fill it out unless I have the option to opt out of gender identification or select "other" for gender. I'm not alone. http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx http://associationdatabase.com/aws/NCDA/pt/sd/news_article/109566/_PARENT/layout_details_cc/true http://associationdatabase.com/aws/NCDA/pt/sd/news_article/1... http://www.autostraddle.com/facebook-wants-you-to-do-you-adds-new-non-binary-pronoun-and-gender-identity-options-223746/ http://www.autostraddle.com/facebook-wants-you-to-do-you-add...
- Diamons 11y agoSo I'm guessing you never fly, because TSA only allows you to pick male or female.
- quaunaut 11y agoSince when do you register your gender with the TSA? Whenever I fly, I just walk through the checkpoint and move on to my flight.
- fma 11y agoWhen you purchase your ticket, they ask for your name, date of birth and gender.
- 467568985476 11y agoWhy the snark? It would be trivial to add another gender option to the page, and it would make the world a slightly friendlier place to a few people. Must everything be an argument?
- xeromal 11y agoI agree. I self-identify as black and refuse to fill out forms that force me to select my ethnicity.
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- arjie 11y agoThe worst kept secret is that lots of H1B application data is not private. There are many indexers. Here's one http://h1bdata.info/ http://h1bdata.info/. And pretty much any tech company has at least a few H1Bs.
- pcurve 11y agoyikes... I make too little. :-/ I graduated from an ivy almost 15 years ago...
- KKKKkkkk1 11y agoI don't understand why this matters. I can see why someone graduating just now from an Ivy should demand a better salary, but 15 years ago ... ? Not criticizing, I'm just curious as a foreigner. The US university system kind of remind you of the Indian caste system.
- a_imho 11y agoTake aside legal aspects, why wouldn't any employee share their salary with their peers? All the secrecy just create noise, how could transparency be bad? I only see some incentive from the company's pov, you can position yourself somewhat better at bargaining salaries, when your employee has no access to the same data to debate, thus lowering costs a few percents. What am I missing?
- hn_user2 11y agoIf you on the high end of the pay scale, then sharing your information can hurt you. When it comes time to negotiate a raise, the company could be reluctant to give you a raise knowing that your peers will also expect a similar raise. If you keep your salary a secret, when it comes time to ask for even more money, then the company could be more likely to offer it since it will not have repercussions across the whole team. Selfish? Yeah, probably, but there you have it. If you are on the low-end, then getting the salary information of others helps you. If you are on the high-end then it can hurt you (IMHO)--as salaries will tend to trend to the average if they are public info.
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- walshemj 11y agoActualy transparency acts to bid up the going rate for the job you can see that effect in how CEO pay has increased.
- RodericDay 11y agoI read a really interesting account of how public disclosure of lawyer salaries led to a boom in the 90s. Finance people also are very brazen about how much they're making, from accounts I've read. Doctors too.
- muzani 11y agoVolunteer's dilemma. If everyone tells (honestly), it benefits the group as a whole. If only one tells, it would be to that individual's disadvantage, since she'll be seen as violating company secrecy policy. Some companies do set wages as confidential info.
- buro9 11y agoNeeds: 1) A currency field to make this globally applicable. 2) Clarification text that salaries are gross, not net. 3) Ability to select some base benefits: health, eye, dental, travel costs, etc
- CydeWeys 11y ago401(k) matching details would be nice. My job has 50% match, no limit, so that's another free $9K per year on top of my salary, which is quite significant. The best way to represent this field would be "How much does the company contribute per year if you max out your contribution?" And maybe also a field for number of years to vest. Fortunately my company is 0 for that.
- cptn_brittish 11y agoAnd a search tool so that you can compare salary's in your own field.
- CydeWeys 11y agoThe biggest problem here is that you don't specify whether "Stock Value/Bonus" is annual. It should be. Otherwise you're going to get all sorts of inconsistent results. Signing bonus shouldn't be as prominent as it is. A lot of companies don't do it, and it doesn't factor into compensation past the first year. How about an "Other Bonus" field? A lot of people at my company get paid on-call compensation. It ends up being pretty significant, but absent a field for it, I'd have to either include it in salary or annual bonus, neither of which quite feels right. Oh, and some basic demographics fields that you should add that would help a lot include age and highest degree awarded (and in what field).
- mpeg 11y agoOkay, before you all start adding your data there, consider the fact that it's all made public. In the UK, post codes are usually very specific (sometimes to a single building) and I'm seeing someone from Colindale that has put in their entire postcode alongside their salary, this would be very easy to deanonimise by doing a reverse lookup on census data and then checking the job titles of the full names you'd get for software professionals (for instance, via Linkedin or Facebook). In that specific example, I was able to find the social profiles of the person who added their salary with just a couple searches in the UK open register; ironically, a data engineer.
- antouank 11y agoGood shout. And 120k GBP sounds like a lot. Is it supposed to be USD? Or is he converting a contractor's daily rate to a perm's salary?
- thisone 11y ago£120k is a hell of a lot. I've got to assume that's been translated into dollars. Being the internet someone will tell me that "everyone in London with at least 2 years experience makes that, easy", but yeah, that number is high for a country where the Home Office considers £35k to be a fair reflection of skilled salaries.
- twic 11y agoOn the subject of conversion, there are currently three jobs in central London. The salaries are 58000, 59331, and 70000. 59331 USD is 40999.97 GBP at the moment, so that's someone earning £41k who's converted properly. The others are round numbers, which suggests to me that they're in GBP and haven't been converted. Not sure what to make of the fact that it's the two people with the highest salaries who didn't read the instructions.
- mpeg 11y agoIt's definitely not a normal salary for a developer regardless of experience, even as a mid range manager (say managing a team of 20+) it'd probably be on the higher end. Most likely a contractor, or adding on other considerations like stock grants; when I was at Salesforce.com they gave the stuff away like candy, so while my base salary wasn't too great the full compensation was good.
- LorenzoLlamas 11y agoAs well noted, Glassdoor and other places already do this. Why do software developers feel compelled to constantly "invent" things we already have plenty of. Do something unique, original, or amazing. Stop copying everyone and just putting new UIs and a few extra database fields on stuff and calling it 'innovation'. So tired of the internet and all the noise clogging it up. Once the crash happens, we will have a glut of 'developers' who will claim they are disenfranchised and out of work and blame the economy... just like the steel-mill workers of the 70s/80s. We don't need this now, and we won't need it later when your main employer stops paying you because you don't actually BUILD anything interesting.
- home_boi 11y agoglassdoor doesn't break the compensation down into RSUs/bonuses/salary. Salary isn't the only form of compensation
- BinaryIdiot 11y ago> Why do software developers feel compelled to constantly "invent" things we already have plenty of. Do something unique, original, or amazing. You're completely right. I'm glad no one redid MySpace / friendster better. We have plenty of social sites! I'm glad no one redid altavista / Yahoo search. We have too many!!! I'm glad no one tried to make yet another email client after AOL / compuserve. I'm glad no one else got into the space industry after Boeing / BST / ATCO / Lockheed; what a waste of time! I'm glad no one made another laptop after the Epson / HP. So stupid! I'm glad no one tried their hand at making a tablet; Microsoft essentially invented the category! No one could have done better! No one! I'm glad no one reinvented the smart phone / pda. Who needs anything but Windows Mobile 6 / Palm / Newton? (I could go on for longer than the text field on HN can hold) > Once the crash happens, we will have a glut of 'developers' who will claim they are disenfranchised and out of work This will never happen even if there was a "crash". You forget that literally every single industry is moving to be more and more technologically controlled, automated, savy, etc; you really think that if there is a "crash" that software developers are going to just sit there out of work? It wouldn't last long...
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- ilostmykeys 11y agolet salary = "$" + Number.MAX_SAFE_INTEGER
- hocuspocus 11y ago> Please use US dollars, thanks! Free currency converter http://www.xe.com/ http://www.xe.com/ Ah, too late. And I don't think that's a good idea. Exchange rates vary. Comparing within a country/region/city makes a lot more sense than across the world. Let people input their salary in the local currency.
- yitchelle 11y agoAgreed, I would seconded the suggestion to keep it to the currency of the country that you are from. This helps the comparison to be more realistic. Ie, if I want to compared my salary in two months in the future to the data that is entered today, the comparison is not useful or accurate due to the moving currency exchange rate.
- xofer 11y agoThe assumption here is that salary is set by forces beyond the employee's control, and it's either fair or unfair. I would argue that everyone's salary is fair, b/c it's set at what the employee negotiated for. If you accepted a salary offer as-is, then that's what you get. If you feel your salary is unfair, then contact your boss and negotiate for more. I won't get into all the tactics of negotiation, but it works the same for salary as for a used car. It will help to have as much leverage as you can get, for example an open job offer at the salary you want.
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- Paul_S 11y agoGlassdoor already has a bigger pool of salaries and a longer history - consider contributing there.
- beeboop 11y agoCool site, I added info. It doesn't display as you probably intend it on high res screens though: http://i.imgur.com/2NZZoln.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2NZZoln.jpg
- nhumrich 11y agoAm I the only one that feels shaky sharing my salary? I work at a start up and if I share my position and company it won't really be anonymous, as I am the only person at the company with that position. I do agree its nice for people to post their salaries so i know if I'm underpaid. But what if I'm overpaid, or at least played more than most at my company? What will that do to people I work with who find or how much I'm paid? It makes me a little uneasy to think my friends might find out I make more than them, I don't really want to flaunt my pay. I'm not saying I am overpaid, but that is the thought that gets in my way from sharing my salary on sites like this and glassdoor. I always assumed because of this salaries on glassdoor where scewed to the lower spectrum. Am I alone in this?
- anuj_nm 11y agoMaybe you can add some details about what stage your company is at (seed vs Series A/B/C), instead of identifying your company?
- lokeshk 11y agoYou can just mention "A startup in XY technology located in bay area", and hopefully that would be enough to give you ambiguity.
- pizza 11y agoIf it weren't for status anxiety, I imagine people would prefer to have this information available (rather than assuming everyone is paid fairly).
- the_gipsy 11y agoJust don't fill out the company name field.
- BinaryIdiot 11y agoUltimately salary transparency is actually a net positive. You can easily know if you're over or under paid and all groups (gender, ethnicity, etc) can see how their pay compares to the other groups. Yes there is a pain point that you mention when transitioning to such transparency. If the company hasn't been typically fair with salaries or not properly explaining why person X isn't getting Y then it's not going to be fun. But overall it should give you a better position to negotiate a higher salary when you're underpaid and it makes everyone well aware if discrimination is happening. I'll tell anyone who asks. I don't publicize because most people I work with are really uncomfortable with it but personally I don't care and I think ultimately, as a society, we're going to move in that direction. It's just going to take a long time.
- alecmgo 11y agohttps://twitter.com/talkpay_anon https://twitter.com/talkpay_anon provides similar information in tweet form. People can post anonymously to this account through http://talkpaybot.com/ http://talkpaybot.com/. Disclaimer: A friend and I made this.
- gkop 11y agoFor start up employees, what we really need is compensation tagged with company stage (seed, series A, series B, and so on). I know private entities that maintain such a database, so it's definitely doable. If AngelList added this feature, their database would be extremely useful [0]. Also it would help to ask for the date of the negotiation and allow filtering salaries by "negotiated in the last 90 days," "negotiated in the last year", etc.. In the meantime, in SF, the best thing I and my company have found is asking around our friends... not terribly scalable :/ [0] https://angel.co/salaries https://angel.co/salaries
- derwiki 11y agoThat AngelList tool is great! Thanks for sharing.
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- sosuke 11y agoIf I were making a good deal more than my peer what do I gain by being fair and honest. What makes it fair? Why shouldn't I make more or less by the skill of negotiation? I've not yet read a reason for the top paid people to talk about their salary. It seems they would have more to risk than gain and it would hurt them in the next negotiation. Not having spoken about my salary I've got no idea if I make more or less. It only matters if I am happy or not.
- firewalkwithme 11y agoSometimes I feel I make more than I should. But I got there by identifying a need, proving myself for long periods of time, and convincing my employer I was completely necessary for the company. And I truly believe I am. It's all a game - It's a SALE! you are selling yourself at the highest possible price
- coralreef 11y agoWill you always be earning more than your peers? When it times come for a promotion or job switch, how will you research your worth?
- sordina 11y agoI don't know any general answers, but here are some scenarios: * Your colleague who did not realise that they were being highly underpaid gets a reasonable offer from another company and leaves. They were a lynchpin in the organisation and the whole company goes under. You now earn zero salary. If they were more aware of others salaries within your company they may have renegotiated and stayed. * After years of hidden salaries within the company, some colleagues salaries are leaked. What was previously imagined to be an equitable workplace is now exposed to be highly inequitable. This is felt to be a betrayal of trust by many and sows discontent within the company. The previously happy workplace is now a minefield of distrust and back-room back-stabbing. Now everyone is stressed. This situation would have never arisen if salaries were disclosed from the start. * An elite of skilled negotiators emerges within the company that far out-earns the contingent of members whose domain-skills would grant them the greater reward in a meritocracy. This leads to a bozo-effect as they rise in the ranks due to greater financial freedom. Nobody can quite pinpoint where it all started going wrong. This transition would have been transparent in a disclosed-salary scenario, and would have been suppressed. * Your conscience is plagued by guilt about the possibility that you might be robbing your equally deserving peers of their share of the pie. You don't sleep so well. If you knew that they were earning the same as you you could sleep better. You get the idea.
- a3n 11y ago“Anonymized” data really isn’t—and here’s why not http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/09/your-secrets-live-online-in-databases-of-ruin/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/09/your-secrets-live... So if you answer this, don't answer honestly, because your employer can probably ID you with just salary and zip.
- batz 11y agoLet's look at what someone would believe to also believe that sharing their salary is a good idea. 1. that if enough people share their salaries, it will cause salaries to revert to the mean, increasing the equality of outcome, independent of inputs. 2. that the data will be real, and not sabotaged or cherry picked. 3. that employers are somehow obligated to pay more than people are willing to work for, presumably just as you make up the difference from shopping at whole foods by paying the ethnic grocer an extra few bucks, because justice, and they're just so grateful, amirite? 4. People with poor negotiation skills, aka those who have less to offer, will make more money. Yay, sample bias. Now I get to know what people stupid enough to share their salaries earn, which is useless, because if I wanted cogs with minimal value add, I could offshore the work for less. Seriously, if an HR person ever used that site as a data point for why they made a crappy offer I would say, "yes, I can see that's what you would pay someone with a misunderstanding of how the world works for this job." Put another way, if you have any doubt about whether someone is overpaid, don't worry, they'll tell you.
- bvdbijl 11y agoI'm getting a MySQL connection PHP exception, which includes most of the database password... You probably want to change it
- sgallant 11y agoSad you're not using Hugo to power the engine room blog :(
- GigabyteCoin 11y agoHow do they ensure that their submitters are being honest?
- learc83 11y agoHow could you possibly do this without requiring documents that no one is ever going to give out?
- BinaryIdiot 11y agoJust like with Glassdoor you're not going to be able to verify. Ideally most people will be truthful and the fakes will be minimal but all it takes is a single 4chan "raid" on a new site to populate it with tons of bullshit making it useless. Now the site could at least verify email addresses before showing them to ensure it's not a bot and make people less likely to make up random crap. But that's still not verifying the input.
- fapjacks 11y agoActually did you see the link on HN the other day? From somewhere like the Atlantic or something, which had the story about the attack on the UCSD team's effort to crowdsource-solve a DARPA challenge? Like the whole time they thought it was a sprawling 4chan raid, but it turned out to just be this one dude and his other friend that happened to be around that day. Proof positive that it only takes one determined attacker to undermine an enormous crowdsourced effort.
- BinaryIdiot 11y agoNo I hadn't seen that but it sounds unfortunate =/
- siliconc0w 11y agoI'd make this site more focus about apples to apples comparison within the same company. I.e 'Share your salary at X and invite your colleagues to do the same'. So people could go to honestsalary.com/company and collaborate there with the main page showing the aggregate. And maybe instead of job title use department and 'level' to make it more ambiguous. I.e engineering,marketing,operations or 'associate, sr, manager, director, vp, cto'. The problem with title is that with small companies title alone isn't ambiguous enough. Yeah yeah I know it's technically illegal for a company to retaliate but that is being a bit naive. Some companies will - the law is pretty toothless here and there are plenty of ways to subtly do it. Also use HTTPS. For obvious reasons. Otherwise i'm a fan and I was actually looking for an something similar the other day.
- h43k3r 11y agoJust to add: You can use https://letsencrypt.org/ https://letsencrypt.org/ for free HTTPS certs.
- anonsalarylol 11y agoHere's the source for a small webapp to anonymously share your salary with a pool of others: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/894b151cc981f783e3af https://gist.github.com/anonymous/894b151cc981f783e3af I did try to make most of the selections ambiguous in order to better preserve anonymity. The way it works is that the pool creator sets a minimum number of responses before anyone can see the salary info. You also can't see any salary info unless you yourself have submitted. I made it a while back for people trying to understand tech salaries in a particular area. It's not geared towards startups but maybe someone can modify it.
- anonsalarylol 11y agoOne thing I forgot to mention is that the app is based around sharing unique URLs; there's no need for users to create accounts of any sort.
- victorantos 11y agoChecked the "whois" data, the website was put together today I bet in an hour or two , and it's already on HN frontpage, well done. What's next?
- substack 11y agoThis salary-focused data collection (aside from issues with self-selecting mentioned elsewhere here) is missing a huge number of freelancers who have much more variable income from contracts and other kinds of unpredictable work. Most discussions of wages in tech ignore this rather large cohort that is difficult to count and often forgotten.
- codeddesign 11y agoI really don't understand this. Just in the tech industry, salaries can vary drastically worth the job title even within a company. For example, as a senior front-end developer I was able to negotiate a much higher wage than my counterparts because I had a specific skillet that they were looking for. Unless you are in a low level position, there are unlimited factors that come into play at the negotiating table with salaries. One size does not fit all. Should I not be able to negotiate a higher salary? What if I could bring something to the table that others could not? Or if I can code 10x faster than current employees? Or can think outside the box? Should a company not put me both based upon what I feel I am worth and what they feel that I am worth? ...or is this purely a Silicon Valley gender pay issue?
- arvinsim 11y agoMandatory postal code makes me sad.
- masukomi 11y agopretty sure that if i put my job title, and years of XP there would be ZERO question as to WHO at my company was making that amount. hell, if i just put my job title... The thinking here is really shortsighted. It only works at companies where there are LOTS of people and lots of people with the same title. Not only would it make for uncomfortable conversations at work, it would likely get me in trouble with my employers. I can't believe you're actually putting the company names out for people to read when you have SO little data. there is NO practical level of anonymity here. Lot's of folks can (and probably will) get in trouble.