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More specs at anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/show/9797/asus-launches-the-chromebit-cs10-hdmi-stick http://www.anandtech.com/show/9797/asus-launches-the-chro

More specs at anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/show/9797/asus-launches-the-chromebit-cs10-hdmi-stick http://www.anandtech.com/show/9797/asus-launches-the-chromeb... Its Mali T764 GPU seems more powerful than an xbox360: the T760 has 326 GFLOPS; xbox360 xenos GPU has about 240 GFLOPS. Not sure what difference the 4 in 764 makes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_(GPU) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_(GPU) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_(graphics_chip) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_(graphics_chip) These PC sticks have been around for years... I wonder if the killer app will be 4K streaming? 4K TV's look great, but no TV programming available; no media (4K blu-rays are not out yet); downloading 40GB takes too long; whereas streaming is popular.

msh 11y ago
Dont all 4K TV's have a 4K capable netflix app build in?
- baddox 11y ago
  For the big brand TVs, yes. Most seem to have some set of Amazon and YouTube 4K support as well. My new TV is missing YouTube 4K support, because apparently they use a different codec than Netflix and Amazon.
oflordal 11y ago
>Not sure what difference the 4 in 764 It says it is a 4 core device.
jra101 11y ago
326 GFLOPS is with 16 GPU cores. Most likely it has 4 GPU cores which would be ~82 GFLOPS @ 600 MHz.
- Rubu 11y ago
  Yeah, I think so too. There's a list [0] over here with common mobile GPU specs which states the same (actually denotes T764 as an alternate name for T760 MP4). Not sure what his/her source is though so take it with a grain of salt. [0] http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/ http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/
zurn 11y ago
The stick only has half the memory bandwidth of the Xbox 360 though.
atmosx 11y ago
There is Intel's Compute Stick too[1] but I haven't try it yet. [1] http://www.intel.com/buy/us/en/product/desktop/intel-boxstck1a8lfc-463163#tech_specs http://www.intel.com/buy/us/en/product/desktop/intel-boxstck...
- make3 11y ago
  If it's x86/x86_64, it has a major advantage imho
  - creshal 11y ago
    Why wouldn't it be? It's certainly not Itanium-based…
  - trarman 11y ago
    It is, but it's also only got intel graphics. You won't be doing any 4k work on it. I have one and it's great for office work, but good luck getting a game to run even 1080p.
    - aagha 11y ago
      How do you use it? What's the advantage of having it?
  - mbreese 11y ago
    Quad core Atom
caractacus 11y ago
They're already hugely popular in China where a lot of the use is streaming tv and movies, via both legal and illegal means (the boundaries blur a lot over there anyway). I bought an Android-based stick from Alibaba a few years ago that plugged into HDMI and worked fantastically. Computing power and abilities have come on tremendously since so I can imagine how well this would work for high quality video. The portability of computing continues. Take anywhere, do anything.
- rplnt 11y ago
  Yet TVs still ship with crappy and slow interfaces for some reason.
  - freshyill 11y ago
    They're getting better, but still a mixed bag. The menu interface on my new Vizio is perfectly fine, but the Netflix app is actually nicer than Apple TV. The Amazon app, however, is a UX nightmare, that looks like some kind of very old Android UI and it doesn't even work with the TV's keyboard remote.
  - dzhiurgis 11y ago
    I'd rather see less features, but more polished and faster interfaces. You'll be plugging your devices anyway. It's like car stereos - just let me plug AUX cable and we are square for next 10 years.
    - joakleaf 11y ago
      The flatscreen producers would probably prefer you came back every 2 years to buy a new TV with updates to their OS, instead of just every 10 years.
      - kedean 11y ago
        Sure, but unless they stop supporting external hardware, nobody is going to. It's kind of like embedded GPS in cars; it's cool at first, but nobody actually pays Garmin and Tomtom the ridiculous fee for map updates, they just use the slightly crappier old ones.
ywy9876 11y ago
Molt be
scott_karana 11y ago
> downloading 40GB takes too long; whereas streaming is popular Um, what? If you can stream 4K media in real time, by definition you are able to download the file in at least the media's run time. That is: you're only spending ≤30 minutes to download a 4K TV show episode if you can also stream it.
- yefim 11y ago
  Pretty sure that's what he or she meant by "too long." Not many people want to wait 30 minutes to watch something for 30 minutes.
  - scott_karana 11y ago
    For anyone currently downloading non-4K media, with pipes fast enough to stream live 4K, it's likely a non-issue. For people not currently downloading media, the discussion is irrelevant: > downloading 40GB takes too long; whereas streaming is popular. Streaming the media would take (at best) just as long as downloading it.

msh 11y ago

Dont all 4K TV's have a 4K capable netflix app build in?

baddox 11y ago
For the big brand TVs, yes. Most seem to have some set of Amazon and YouTube 4K support as well. My new TV is missing YouTube 4K support, because apparently they use a different codec than Netflix and Amazon.

oflordal 11y ago

>Not sure what difference the 4 in 764 It says it is a 4 core device.

jra101 11y ago

326 GFLOPS is with 16 GPU cores. Most likely it has 4 GPU cores which would be ~82 GFLOPS @ 600 MHz.

Rubu 11y ago
Yeah, I think so too. There's a list [0] over here with common mobile GPU specs which states the same (actually denotes T764 as an alternate name for T760 MP4). Not sure what his/her source is though so take it with a grain of salt. [0] http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/ http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/

zurn 11y ago

The stick only has half the memory bandwidth of the Xbox 360 though.

atmosx 11y ago

There is Intel's Compute Stick too[1] but I haven't try it yet. [1] http://www.intel.com/buy/us/en/product/desktop/intel-boxstck1a8lfc-463163#tech_specs http://www.intel.com/buy/us/en/product/desktop/intel-boxstck...

make3 11y ago
If it's x86/x86_64, it has a major advantage imho
- creshal 11y ago
  Why wouldn't it be? It's certainly not Itanium-based…
- trarman 11y ago
  It is, but it's also only got intel graphics. You won't be doing any 4k work on it. I have one and it's great for office work, but good luck getting a game to run even 1080p.
  - aagha 11y ago
    How do you use it? What's the advantage of having it?
- mbreese 11y ago
  Quad core Atom

caractacus 11y ago

They're already hugely popular in China where a lot of the use is streaming tv and movies, via both legal and illegal means (the boundaries blur a lot over there anyway). I bought an Android-based stick from Alibaba a few years ago that plugged into HDMI and worked fantastically. Computing power and abilities have come on tremendously since so I can imagine how well this would work for high quality video. The portability of computing continues. Take anywhere, do anything.

rplnt 11y ago
Yet TVs still ship with crappy and slow interfaces for some reason.
- freshyill 11y ago
  They're getting better, but still a mixed bag. The menu interface on my new Vizio is perfectly fine, but the Netflix app is actually nicer than Apple TV. The Amazon app, however, is a UX nightmare, that looks like some kind of very old Android UI and it doesn't even work with the TV's keyboard remote.
- dzhiurgis 11y ago
  I'd rather see less features, but more polished and faster interfaces. You'll be plugging your devices anyway. It's like car stereos - just let me plug AUX cable and we are square for next 10 years.
  - joakleaf 11y ago
    The flatscreen producers would probably prefer you came back every 2 years to buy a new TV with updates to their OS, instead of just every 10 years.
    - kedean 11y ago
      Sure, but unless they stop supporting external hardware, nobody is going to. It's kind of like embedded GPS in cars; it's cool at first, but nobody actually pays Garmin and Tomtom the ridiculous fee for map updates, they just use the slightly crappier old ones.

ywy9876 11y ago

Molt be

scott_karana 11y ago

> downloading 40GB takes too long; whereas streaming is popular Um, what? If you can stream 4K media in real time, by definition you are able to download the file in at least the media's run time. That is: you're only spending ≤30 minutes to download a 4K TV show episode if you can also stream it.

yefim 11y ago
Pretty sure that's what he or she meant by "too long." Not many people want to wait 30 minutes to watch something for 30 minutes.
- scott_karana 11y ago
  For anyone currently downloading non-4K media, with pipes fast enough to stream live 4K, it's likely a non-issue. For people not currently downloading media, the discussion is irrelevant: > downloading 40GB takes too long; whereas streaming is popular. Streaming the media would take (at best) just as long as downloading it.