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one of the best games ever made.

mhurron 11y ago
OT, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqvXDTH-o_o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqvXDTH-o_o
seivan 11y ago
I know Diablo 2 was much bigger improvement over Diablo 1, but I feel like what really made it was Battle-net. Back then most online RPG games required you to install shit like Gamespy to play online, at least that's the feeling I got. But I never played until Lord of Destruction exp though, maybe some stuff came after.
- hitlin37 11y ago
  I think in Diablo 2, they got almost everything right. It's almost as if it can't be remade as perfect as they did back then.
  - pyrrhotech 11y ago
    FWIW Diablo 3 is now a worthy successor. It was terrible at launch, but the devs listened to the community and it's a great game now
    - matwood 11y ago
      I recently picked up the PS4 UE version and as far as this style games goes I have to agree. My only complaint is it feels too easy most of the time, and I cannot make it harder until I beat the campaign once. My long experience playing D1 and then D2 are probably showing though :)
    - abritinthebay 11y ago
      It's better, but it's not a patch on D2 however. Go in expecting a decent game in that style though and you'll enjoy it a lot.
    - d3notevenclose 11y ago
      IT IS NOT! Diablo 3 was the biggest disappointment in game history and that blizzard has not admitted what has been done wrong and those selfish developers that haven't even played d2 makes it even worse.
      - PhasmaFelis 11y ago
        Seriously, you created a new account to tell us that you don't like a video game?
    - jlarocco 11y ago
      Meh. I tried playing a few months ago, and it's better than at launch and when the auction house came out, but it still can't compare to the first two, IMO.
    - fletchowns 11y ago
      It seems like everybody has moved on though, there is no way I could convince my buddies to even re-install D3 let alone invest time into it.
  - rbritton 11y ago
    If you want to imagine D2 now, just think of everything that could be converted to an in-app purchase. Computer games have avoided it more than iOS has, but that concept has had more of a detrimental effect on the quality of games out there than anything else I can think of. It's incredibly hard to find quality, one-time purchase iOS games because the market for them isn't sustainable.
    - seivan 11y ago
      We don't have to imagine, we have D3 and it's not as bad as you made it out to be. I didn't mind in real money auction, then again I wasn't hardcore (not just the mode) . Heh, the irony.. I am working on a (what I deem to be) quality one-purchase game.
- degenerate 11y ago
  Battle.net was perfect, absolutely perfect.
- santaclaus 11y ago
  The sequels, while super fun games, didn't really capture the atmosphere that made the original so haunting. The desperation in the original was palpable, and moving through the dungeons really felt like a descent into hell and madness. Everything from the spanish guitar theme in the main town to the progressively more manic tone of the journals in the dungeons to the crazy ending just fit so perfectly.
  - Cowen 11y ago
    The way I've always put it: Diablo 2 was a better game, but Diablo 1 was a better experience.
  - seivan 11y ago
    Yeah the sequels feel like a greater game in terms of quality and features. But fuck me Diablo 1 was scary as hell, even when played multiplayer. Man.. that Butcher.
    - fenomas 11y ago
      AHH, FRESH MEAT! You can almost tell a gamer's age by how they react to that, said in the right voice.
      - seivan 11y ago
        If you want to hear that, try Heroes of the Storm :) you can play the Butcher, I actually kinda like him as a character.
jsnk 11y ago
Such an amazing game. There's so much to learn from this game still that I think if we took the same basic structure of the game and balance it again, we'll have yet another masterpiece. Even the mishaps in the game like, Stone of Jordan dupes, overpowered Gambling feature in the original, some under powered classes in terms of PVP (eventually got more balanced) and so on, there are so many learning opportunities here. Addition of Runewords in 1.10 really balanced the game even further. Magic Finding (MF) which was an attribute you would want to farm set/rare/unique items were pretty much invested in Sorceresses only for her Teleporting skill. Other classes without teleporting simply could not farm as effectively as her. With a new runeword "enigma" that gave you teleporting skill, it opened up the avenue for other classes to do what Sorceresses do. I can just keep going on and on about this game and how fun it was (even the grinding in cow level for exp).
- msc 11y ago
  One of the worst hacks was the Hostile Anywhere hack, especially for Hardcode mode. Apparently the Hostile button was disabled client side once you left town, but there were no server side checks. I also remember a gamble hack, where the server gave too much info to the client. The hack would tell you which were Unique/Rare/Magic gambles.
renke1 11y ago
I wholeheartedly agree. Try Path of Exile [1] if you are looking for a spiritual successor. For me, that's the only game that comes close to Diablo 2. [1]: https://www.pathofexile.com/ https://www.pathofexile.com/
- JTon 11y ago
  +1 for PoE. A bunch of friends and I had a weekend LAN party and took it for a ride. We all loved the additional features.
- gizmo385 11y ago
  Torchlight II is another fantastic successor for this genre!
  - duskwuff 11y ago
    Eh. I can't say precisely what was wrong, but the Torchlight games didn't quite hit the mark for me. Some details I can put my finger on, though, include: - The plot was, to put it bluntly, some of the most generic fantasy glop imaginable. The second game was particularly bad in this respect. - Item generation felt... off, somehow. Some combination of too many item bases and too uniform a distribution of affixes made items generally feel kind of boring. I personally found Path of Exile to be significantly better. Your mileage may vary.
gt565k 11y ago
Seeing this brought back some memories. I used to run farming bots for Diablo II when I was 13-16 years old and had about 20 copies of the game. Bots would run all day (while I was in school), and all night. I'd wake up early in the morning. Check the loot and transfer it to mule accounts, then restart the bots and go to school. I'd then try to trade items for general commodity items, like high runes, or certain skill items that were used as a form of trading currency due to their high demand. The bots had some custom features that would let you bypass IP bans by logging into your router's settings, changing the mac address, and restarting your internet connection so you can get a new IP address. One of the bots I used was written in the AutoIt Scripting Language. Since the bot was open source, I was able to see how the code was structured and modify it myself. I attribute my introduction to programming to this farming bot, and I believe is one of the reasons I chose to study Computer Science. The cherry on top was that I made about $600-$700 when I was 14 or 15 years old by selling a lot of farmed items on ebay. Personally, Diablo III was a big disappointment for me. The game felt quite different from a lot of aspects. Common loot was now split into player specific loot, too many crafting recipes, unique items were garbage, etc... I'd be happy to answer any questions regarding Diablo II or even the hacking/botting community around it.
- gadrfgaesgysd 11y ago
  Can you give a in-depth description of how the bots worked? You can assume the reader has good knowledge of programming, AutoIt and Diablo 2.
  - jakobdabo 11y ago
    You may also find this Diablo III story interesting - http://diablo3story.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-diablo-3-story.html http://diablo3story.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-diablo-3-story.ht...
    - gadrfgaesgysd 11y ago
      I have already read that last year. Blizzard really screwed themselves( and the players ) with the Auction House.
fierycatnet 11y ago
That's the game that I've dedicated most of my time in high school. It was gritty, challenging and full of possibilities. I managed to trade and find enough gear to buy high runes and elite rune words. I had a lance barb. It was different and frowned upon, but holy hell the amount of damage he would do. I think the greatest thing about D2LOD was their dueling system, especially in hardcore mode. I had a friend (RIP) who used to have high level barbarian with teleport amulet. In the older patches it was a rare item, before the crazy rune words and so on. So naturally he was able to assassinate a quite a few naive players, who tried to run away, to collect the ear. Oh man, the rush of playing in hardcore. The thrill was real. There was a real consequence to your mistakes. I think that was the fun part until Blizzard sanitized the game to prevent easy PK. One thing I wish Blizzard could do is to make a figurine of your character and send it to you. I'd love to have a small figurine of my lance barb that I've dedicated a lot of my time to. Too bad it's all gone now.

OT, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqvXDTH-o_o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqvXDTH-o_o

I know Diablo 2 was much bigger improvement over Diablo 1, but I feel like what really made it was Battle-net. Back then most online RPG games required you to install shit like Gamespy to play online, at least that's the feeling I got. But I never played until Lord of Destruction exp though, maybe some stuff came after.

hitlin37 11y ago
I think in Diablo 2, they got almost everything right. It's almost as if it can't be remade as perfect as they did back then.
- pyrrhotech 11y ago
  FWIW Diablo 3 is now a worthy successor. It was terrible at launch, but the devs listened to the community and it's a great game now
  - matwood 11y ago
    I recently picked up the PS4 UE version and as far as this style games goes I have to agree. My only complaint is it feels too easy most of the time, and I cannot make it harder until I beat the campaign once. My long experience playing D1 and then D2 are probably showing though :)
  - abritinthebay 11y ago
    It's better, but it's not a patch on D2 however. Go in expecting a decent game in that style though and you'll enjoy it a lot.
  - d3notevenclose 11y ago
    IT IS NOT! Diablo 3 was the biggest disappointment in game history and that blizzard has not admitted what has been done wrong and those selfish developers that haven't even played d2 makes it even worse.
    - PhasmaFelis 11y ago
      Seriously, you created a new account to tell us that you don't like a video game?
  - jlarocco 11y ago
    Meh. I tried playing a few months ago, and it's better than at launch and when the auction house came out, but it still can't compare to the first two, IMO.
  - fletchowns 11y ago
    It seems like everybody has moved on though, there is no way I could convince my buddies to even re-install D3 let alone invest time into it.
- rbritton 11y ago
  If you want to imagine D2 now, just think of everything that could be converted to an in-app purchase. Computer games have avoided it more than iOS has, but that concept has had more of a detrimental effect on the quality of games out there than anything else I can think of. It's incredibly hard to find quality, one-time purchase iOS games because the market for them isn't sustainable.
  - seivan 11y ago
    We don't have to imagine, we have D3 and it's not as bad as you made it out to be. I didn't mind in real money auction, then again I wasn't hardcore (not just the mode) . Heh, the irony.. I am working on a (what I deem to be) quality one-purchase game.
degenerate 11y ago
Battle.net was perfect, absolutely perfect.
santaclaus 11y ago
The sequels, while super fun games, didn't really capture the atmosphere that made the original so haunting. The desperation in the original was palpable, and moving through the dungeons really felt like a descent into hell and madness. Everything from the spanish guitar theme in the main town to the progressively more manic tone of the journals in the dungeons to the crazy ending just fit so perfectly.
- Cowen 11y ago
  The way I've always put it: Diablo 2 was a better game, but Diablo 1 was a better experience.
- seivan 11y ago
  Yeah the sequels feel like a greater game in terms of quality and features. But fuck me Diablo 1 was scary as hell, even when played multiplayer. Man.. that Butcher.
  - fenomas 11y ago
    AHH, FRESH MEAT! You can almost tell a gamer's age by how they react to that, said in the right voice.
    - seivan 11y ago
      If you want to hear that, try Heroes of the Storm :) you can play the Butcher, I actually kinda like him as a character.

jsnk 11y ago

Such an amazing game. There's so much to learn from this game still that I think if we took the same basic structure of the game and balance it again, we'll have yet another masterpiece. Even the mishaps in the game like, Stone of Jordan dupes, overpowered Gambling feature in the original, some under powered classes in terms of PVP (eventually got more balanced) and so on, there are so many learning opportunities here. Addition of Runewords in 1.10 really balanced the game even further. Magic Finding (MF) which was an attribute you would want to farm set/rare/unique items were pretty much invested in Sorceresses only for her Teleporting skill. Other classes without teleporting simply could not farm as effectively as her. With a new runeword "enigma" that gave you teleporting skill, it opened up the avenue for other classes to do what Sorceresses do. I can just keep going on and on about this game and how fun it was (even the grinding in cow level for exp).

msc 11y ago
One of the worst hacks was the Hostile Anywhere hack, especially for Hardcode mode. Apparently the Hostile button was disabled client side once you left town, but there were no server side checks. I also remember a gamble hack, where the server gave too much info to the client. The hack would tell you which were Unique/Rare/Magic gambles.

renke1 11y ago

I wholeheartedly agree. Try Path of Exile [1] if you are looking for a spiritual successor. For me, that's the only game that comes close to Diablo 2. [1]: https://www.pathofexile.com/ https://www.pathofexile.com/

JTon 11y ago
+1 for PoE. A bunch of friends and I had a weekend LAN party and took it for a ride. We all loved the additional features.
gizmo385 11y ago
Torchlight II is another fantastic successor for this genre!
- duskwuff 11y ago
  Eh. I can't say precisely what was wrong, but the Torchlight games didn't quite hit the mark for me. Some details I can put my finger on, though, include: - The plot was, to put it bluntly, some of the most generic fantasy glop imaginable. The second game was particularly bad in this respect. - Item generation felt... off, somehow. Some combination of too many item bases and too uniform a distribution of affixes made items generally feel kind of boring. I personally found Path of Exile to be significantly better. Your mileage may vary.

gt565k 11y ago

Seeing this brought back some memories. I used to run farming bots for Diablo II when I was 13-16 years old and had about 20 copies of the game. Bots would run all day (while I was in school), and all night. I'd wake up early in the morning. Check the loot and transfer it to mule accounts, then restart the bots and go to school. I'd then try to trade items for general commodity items, like high runes, or certain skill items that were used as a form of trading currency due to their high demand. The bots had some custom features that would let you bypass IP bans by logging into your router's settings, changing the mac address, and restarting your internet connection so you can get a new IP address. One of the bots I used was written in the AutoIt Scripting Language. Since the bot was open source, I was able to see how the code was structured and modify it myself. I attribute my introduction to programming to this farming bot, and I believe is one of the reasons I chose to study Computer Science. The cherry on top was that I made about $600-$700 when I was 14 or 15 years old by selling a lot of farmed items on ebay. Personally, Diablo III was a big disappointment for me. The game felt quite different from a lot of aspects. Common loot was now split into player specific loot, too many crafting recipes, unique items were garbage, etc... I'd be happy to answer any questions regarding Diablo II or even the hacking/botting community around it.

gadrfgaesgysd 11y ago
Can you give a in-depth description of how the bots worked? You can assume the reader has good knowledge of programming, AutoIt and Diablo 2.
- jakobdabo 11y ago
  You may also find this Diablo III story interesting - http://diablo3story.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-diablo-3-story.html http://diablo3story.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-diablo-3-story.ht...
  - gadrfgaesgysd 11y ago
    I have already read that last year. Blizzard really screwed themselves( and the players ) with the Auction House.

fierycatnet 11y ago

That's the game that I've dedicated most of my time in high school. It was gritty, challenging and full of possibilities. I managed to trade and find enough gear to buy high runes and elite rune words. I had a lance barb. It was different and frowned upon, but holy hell the amount of damage he would do. I think the greatest thing about D2LOD was their dueling system, especially in hardcore mode. I had a friend (RIP) who used to have high level barbarian with teleport amulet. In the older patches it was a rare item, before the crazy rune words and so on. So naturally he was able to assassinate a quite a few naive players, who tried to run away, to collect the ear. Oh man, the rush of playing in hardcore. The thrill was real. There was a real consequence to your mistakes. I think that was the fun part until Blizzard sanitized the game to prevent easy PK. One thing I wish Blizzard could do is to make a figurine of your character and send it to you. I'd love to have a small figurine of my lance barb that I've dedicated a lot of my time to. Too bad it's all gone now.