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VPaint: An experimental vector graphics editor
- jackmaney 11y agoIt's a damn shame that the executable downloads are hosted on SourceForge. I'd be willing to give it a try, but it'll have to wait until I have the time to go through the rigmarole of compiling the source code.
- Breakthrough 11y agoVPaint was recently migrated to Github; you can download the binaries/source directly from the releases page: https://github.com/dalboris/vpaint/releases https://github.com/dalboris/vpaint/releases They migrated the project just a couple days ago, so I assume the download links on the main site will be updated in due time.
- jackmaney 11y agoAwesome! Downloading now.
- talkingtab 11y agoThanks. Just say no to sourceforge.
- krautsourced 11y agoI'm confused, what's the problem with them being hosted on SourceForge?
- iamflimflam1 11y agoSee here: http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-downlo... and here: http://www.information-age.com/industry/software/123459675/hotbed-malware-another-blow-sourceforge-google-discovers-588-pages-malicious-software http://www.information-age.com/industry/software/123459675/h... etc...
- sambe 11y agoThe second article suggests GitHub has a similar problem and the first says that SourceForge has an opt-in policy. I can obviously understand people wanting to boycott SF but no-one is talking about avoiding GH downloads. Did I miss an element of this story?
- nissehulth 11y agoI guess the main difference is that it is SF themselves that add some of the crapware in binaries distributed by them. As far as I know, Github have never done that. That people may upload malware to their github repo is quite different.
- Maxious 11y agoSourceForge has been wrapping adware around executables http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/source...
- jackmaney 11y agoAs others have pointed out, SourceForge has become a malware distribution network.
- radiorental 11y agoI haven't seen evidence of malware, just adware wrappers from sourceforge. It's a small, but important, difference.
- sbarre 11y agoDepends on your definition of malware I guess.
- makomk 11y agoIt's hard to see exactly what SourceForge are offering because apparently they do VM detection and their installer is much better behaved when running in a VM, and most folks don't have a spare physical machine they can test it on and wipe afterwards. Which I think says a lot about how malicious their installers actually are.
- lambda 11y agoadware is a type of malware.
- jotm 11y agoIt's literally one click away... or are you boycotting Sourceforge?
- kwhitefoot 11y agoIsn't everyone?
- jotm 11y agoNever had a problem with them - just don't click on the misleading ads (or block them) :-)
- userbinator 11y agoIt's a .msi. You can download it, open in 7-zip, extract all the files, and run it directly. Quite frankly, it would've been better to distributing it as a single .zip file. SF has not been touching anything other than .exe installers, so there is no problem here.
- rtpg 11y agoWatching the SIGRAPH video... isn't this basically how Flash animation works? Does anyone know the major differences?
- arketyp 11y agoIt does seem like this technology is either old or just a decade or two too late. Aren't there ways nowadays of generating 3D models from 2D sketches that would serve better for this kind of intuitive topology animation?
- _yosefk 11y agoIf you know about such ways, please do tell, it'd be great... I haven't heard about anything along these lines that is actually used in professional work.
- arketyp 11y agoWhat about [1] for example. I'm also thinking about the growing trend of technologies related to auto calibration such as Microsoft's Photosynth. It seems pretty certain to me that 3D modeling is the future of animation. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbUljHJv4Rg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbUljHJv4Rg
- _yosefk 11y ago[1] is pretty cool! I don't think it's quite production-ready; first of all it's simply very new (2014), and then the 3D models seem to me to need manual polishing, and most importantly, this demo doesn't mention animation, which I guess would require the same rigging and then control manipulation as you'd do with hand-modeled 3D, and you'd run into the same limitations as with normal 3D rigs (with some things "breaking the rig".) I wager that the 2D approach in TFA has a different set of limitations and these will be preferable to some. Still, cool stuff! I wondered when something like this will show up.
- dahart 11y ago
- paulus_magnus2 11y agoWorking on something kind of similar: - vector graphics/drawings created by freehand / writing http://write-live.com/d/dba21681-8d3f-4fbe-8b4b-e5c1983df934 http://write-live.com/d/dba21681-8d3f-4fbe-8b4b-e5c1983df934 http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e - unlimited* levels of zoom http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=3483c3de-b329-4af1-97d7-2d7f27d96ad1 http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=34... - draw on a tablet, view on tablet / web http://write-live.com/d/538254c5-7d31-41f2-83bb-bcd0a7cee7ab http://write-live.com/d/538254c5-7d31-41f2-83bb-bcd0a7cee7ab A bit like if google docs had a baby with OneNote :) Exploring now a possibility to render digital ink via webgl as Canvas poses performance problems for very complex drawings.
- paulus_magnus2 11y agomore elaborate drawings / samples: http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=2ca5af1b-184e-4a9e-b5b5-f34a354ffa3b http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=2c... http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e http://write-live.com/d/f1b5c413-a291-4409-a549-93312cef7ca1 http://write-live.com/d/f1b5c413-a291-4409-a549-93312cef7ca1
- supercoder 11y agoNothing seems to appear.
- deleted 11y ago[deleted]
- paulus_magnus2 11y agoYou need a browser supporting w/s connections and NOT be behind a corporate firewall. Also, give it at least 10s if your network is slow.
- ycnews 11y agoCan write-live drawings be saved or exported to a file?
- donpark 11y agoImpressive. FYI, source is at: https://github.com/dalboris/vpaint https://github.com/dalboris/vpaint
- caligastia 11y agoand the paper is at http://www.dalboris.com/research/vac/vac.pdf http://www.dalboris.com/research/vac/vac.pdf
- dbbolton 11y agoPiggybacking to mention that the download links on their landing page are all hosted on SourceForge, but their releases page on GH has the same version (1.5) for all three platforms: https://github.com/dalboris/vpaint/releases https://github.com/dalboris/vpaint/releases I won't download any binaries from SF if I can help it, due to the recent unpleasantness.
- kolev 11y agoHomebrew Cask request: https://github.com/caskroom/homebrew-cask/issues/13121 https://github.com/caskroom/homebrew-cask/issues/13121
- Quanttek 11y agoWhen compiling, as specified on Github [1], I get a SIGSEV [1] https://github.com/dalboris/vpaint#linux https://github.com/dalboris/vpaint#linux
- k2xl 11y agoFlash actually can do very similar things with their IDE via Object Tweens. And yes in flags you could edit the interpolated frames and "adjust it" However, at least with my experience with flash, the interpolations never did exactly what you wanted, and this tool seems to better predict what is desired. With that said, despite being free I am not sure if VPaint interface is that much better than Flash.
- _yosefk 11y agoFrom my experience, Object Tweens "never doing exactly what you wanted" is an understatement - they're pretty much useless for any non-trivial shape, not doing anything remotely sensible. There seems to be a lot of room for improvement in 2D interpolation, and their video shows stuff that looks impressive enough. I'd have to try it to form an opinion, of course... I hope I will find the time
- lebek 11y agoFlash doesn't support shared edges or multiway joins which sound pretty crucial for non-trivial animation work. VPaint is based on Vector Graphic Complexes (http://www.dalboris.com/research/vgc/ http://www.dalboris.com/research/vgc/) which supports both.
- baldfat 11y agoVersion numbering is that 1 is beta. Why are people fine with this but when KDE did a KDE 4.0 with publishing saying don't include it with your distro they got killed. P.S. I think all beta should any number people say it is beta and people shouldn't get mad about numbering.
- baldfat 11y agoSo I do a post on why people should not get mad at Beta numbering and I get 4 down votes Nice. Maybe it is because I missed a word "be" before any number. Just say why you don't like the post and don't just down vote. Let your voice be heard instead of being passive. Engage with differences.
- hyperpallium 11y agoBTW when researching competitive advantage, I noticed Adobe dominated vector graphics, with postscript (and pdf) - apart from Macromedia's Flash, which was progressing quickly, including an optionally typed version of Javascript (ActionScript 3.0), with performance comparable to Java. A few months later, boom, Adobe bought Macromdia. Retaining their monopoly? Since then, Flash development strangely languished... Just sayin, keep going, and you may get a call from Adobe M&A.
- jvehent 11y agoVery impressive tool. Not hard to pick up at all. It builds and runs on Fedora 22 without having to battle with dependencies, which is way easier than I expected :)
- jarvuschris 11y agophpBB and sourceforge? what a throwback!
- fuzzythinker 11y agoIs an API on the roadmap? Before 2.0?
- taivare 11y agoAnyone get this loaded on windows 10 ?
- snake117 11y agoSo is this kind of like Flash and Illustrator rolled into one free product? If so that's pretty amazing.