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zionic
5y ago
You're essentially saying the FBI will audit themselves and find they did something wrong, then fix it.
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zionic
5y ago
The list Apple uses is the property of the secret police, which is owned by the government. The government can change the database at a whim and push new targeting data to your phone.
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zionic
5y ago
Oh how the mighty have fallen. Now I can’t help but wonder if this was all for show.
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zionic
5y ago
Tether is famously centralized, you’re attacking a straw man.
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zionic
5y ago
If an AWS hosted site gets SQL injected who is to blame?
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zionic
5y ago
My $1000 hardware is my property, not “Apple’s platform”. Also, messaging is a protocol… which is not a platform.
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zionic
5y ago
I know this is a joke post, but I think in all seriousness it's going to take a crisis like this to get these laws/society changed. "Thousands of developers swept up in CP ring!" that later turns out to be malware planti
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zionic
5y ago
Yes, Apple is opening up these APIs to 3rd party apps. Many commenters are unaware of this as the initial release said iCloud only.
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zionic
5y ago
>that has not been verified nor ever reported on by a news publication) How could it be? The list is literally property of the secret police, you can't know what's on it. No one can audit it except the police themselves.
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zionic
5y ago
-Apple "lagged behind" because it built private and secure services it could not monitor by design. This is a feature, not a bug. -Facebook's reporting overwhelmingly flags burner accounts signed up via tor etc, only absolute
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zionic
5y ago
Wow, he's actually suggesting Apple should build a "trust and safety" team for reporting E2E Encrypted messages containing "hate speech" to directly? Sometimes I forget how messed up Twitter is.
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zionic
5y ago
Of course not, Apple will simply match the much more reliable Youtube flagging system :P
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zionic
5y ago
This is out of date. It took less than a week for Apple to announce this tech is coming to "3rd party apps".
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zionic
5y ago
The US is the same.
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zionic
5y ago
Nope, Apple announced this tech is coming to 3rd party apps via API. iCloud was just the start, it wasn't the end.
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zionic
5y ago
How do we know they aren't? Anyone with your credentials to social media/any cloud service like gmail could send CP on your behalf to get you flagged and interrogated. Good luck mounting a defense against a subject this taboo. Eve
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zionic
5y ago
This is needless Apple apologetics. They deserve to be raked over the coals for this, there's no world where their current design is a "good" or "right" one. Child abuse is a serious problem, but building a surveill
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zionic
5y ago
It's going to take NSO spyware putting CP on apple execs personal devices to get them to understand... isn't it? Not that I would ever advocate for such a thing of course.
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zionic
5y ago
That’s not enough, Apple is “open” to adding these APIs to 3rd party apps as of today’s news. It was never going to stop at iCloud uploads.
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zionic
5y ago
Nope, Apple is opening this up to 3rd party app devs as announced today.
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zionic
5y ago
To be honest, this entire episode is starting to radicalize me. Everything stallman has said about proprietary software is slowly coming true, and I must admit that now I’m reevaluating a lot of the technology in my life.
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zionic
5y ago
How do we make them care? Or more politically worded, show them it is in their interest to care?
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zionic
5y ago
Also a parent, and I couldn’t more strongly disagree with you. We cannot protect our children by building a dystopia for them to grow up in, and normalizing this kind of invasive spyware on every device is pretty much guaranteeing that.
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zionic
5y ago
But that doesn’t work, because the crazies will simply take this victory and move the goalposts forward. They’ll do so emboldened by your capitulation and shame you for not acquiescing earlier. The only winning move is not to play.
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zionic
5y ago
It’s like your spouse’s communication has broken down, they’re doing things that don’t make sense, and they just randomly went out and bought a gun without telling you. Sure, they haven’t killed you in your sleep yet … but they sure are ac
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zionic
5y ago
Exactly, we can’t save the children by giving them a dystopia to grow up in.
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zionic
5y ago
OP knows that, and is acting accordingly. They enjoy being “unquestionable”/above being audited.
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5y ago
> There is nearly a 1-to-1 relationship between people who deal in CP and people who abuse children. And they rarely victimize just one child. Nearly 1 in 10 children in the US will be sexually abused before the age of 18. These are clea
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zionic
5y ago
Legally, a visual proxy of CP is CP
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zionic
5y ago
Please stop spreading misinformation. Apple has built the system to scan your entire phone, their claims about its limited scope are suspect.
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