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zeeg
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3y ago
That’ll get you the sidecar but not the UI widget. I think we could: 1- serve the widget from the sidecar 2- add the CDN distro
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zeeg
3y ago
This seems to be a super shared point of view. I’ll admit we were a bit fire-and-forget on the homepage and definitely agree with all the feedback that we need to explain what it is better.
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zeeg
3y ago
It leverages the sentry SDKs so not so much a replacement but something else that you can use during local development (vs sending this data to the Sentry dashboard which is a little odd in development).
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zeeg
3y ago
More control and far lower barrier to hack on. This actually opens up a lot of doors for us even if you ignore usability and discoverability. For example, we have a POC that pops the overlay when a server error happens, giving you a rich de
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zeeg
3y ago
Would a bundled JS asset work for the UI? Eg something from a CDN? Feel free to add a GitHub issue with more details if that’s easier!
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zeeg
3y ago
“What sql queries did the api make that my react ui is talking to” Makes it much easier to debug local systems during development. Same kind of thing for errors- takes something that shows up in a console somewhere and brings it into a UI.
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zeeg
3y ago
Its related in that we (Sentry) built it, and that it uses Sentry's open source SDKs to create its payloads, but its separate in that it doesnt require Sentry's monitoring service to work. Hopefully that helps, and definitely some
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zeeg
3y ago
Its run on your local device - its just a local devserver that allows Sentry's SDKs to pipe data to it. The overlay (the Spotlight UI) then connects to the sidecar via a Server-Sent Events stream (basically a pubsub HTTP stream which o
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zeeg
3y ago
Are you using NextDNS by chance? Someone reported an issue with it blocking the domain on there, but it was unclear _which_ setting was blocking it. Was also odd given its just a Vercel website and the domain (afaik) was unused prior.
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zeeg
3y ago
Stoplight vs Spotlight - names are going to names at the end of the day, but I’ll tell you I’ve personally not heard of that tool :')
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zeeg
3y ago
Yep- runs fully local! We had to make some small changes to our SDKs to support the sidecar, but a fundamental goal was that this was free software and valuable without the core Sentry service.
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zeeg
3y ago
What error are you seeing? Works over here. Its hosted on Vercel so shouldn’t be too complicated or different than most similar deployments.
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3y ago
David from Sentry here. If yall have feedback around Spotlight we’d love to hear it. This is a passion project for a few of us and seemed like a natural fit for our technology, and becomes especially interesting with the service oriented wo
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zeeg
3y ago
For clarity, I meant the two terms are not interchangeable.
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3y ago
Sentry releases a large variety of software. Some of it is licensed under OSS (which, yes, I will be pedantic about, because OSS is one less character than FOSS, and I do not believe in copyleft). Several of our core services are licensed u
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3y ago
https://github.com/getsentry You suggesting we are anything but what we are just makes you look like you have an agenda at best, or foolish at worst. All you're doing is harming the broader community by arguing about n
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zeeg
3y ago
It’s not misleading. You claiming we say something we do not is. I’m not going to continue this conversation as you’ve shown only to be here in bad faith.
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3y ago
Where do we (Sentry) ever call ourselves FOSS? If FOSS is represented by the community in this thread I want no part of that toxicity. We do what we think is good and for developers and customers, and the broader open source ecosystem. A lo
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3y ago
We haven’t been “FOSS” for many years and don’t pretend to be. What’s your point? We also don’t ask you to build our software for us, and instead give it away for free.
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zeeg
3y ago
We welcome you to spend 15 years and 10s of millions of your own money to compete with us, by writing your own software. If you think taking someone else’s software and spending ad money to sell it is “competition” I don’t know what to tell
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zeeg
3y ago
Did you actually look at the license, or any of the history of Sentry? It’s still just as “free” as it has been for years. If anything this makes our commitment to open source _more_ explicit than it was under the BUSL. On your free-riding
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3y ago
I believe you’re suggesting revocation means something else. Once the software is released under a license you’ve created a legal contract granting those terms. You can’t (at least in the referenced licenses) rewind and take away the licens
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Can you actually revoke it in practice? I’m not deeply familiar with MIT (and personally always opt for Apache as it’s more well understood), but I didn’t think that was possible.
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We are not trying to build a license with infinite options to fill out - it’s my opinion that will never lead to adoption. It’s intentional the choices we made and we see Sentry leading the way here. Theres a reason we’re forceful on it bei
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3y ago
I’m not sure what you mean? We’ve been using the BUSL for years successfully. This is just an improvement (for customers) on that license. Are you suggesting our successful business is going to all of a sudden fail now because we made the B
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I'll touch on it when we talk about relicensing, but the tl;dr is it didn't impact our business at all. It did however succeed at its goal of removing a nuisance (a story for a future post).
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I wasn't as rigorous about it as you around having a fixed schedule, but I applied similar principles: Avoid doing any work on my side project while at my regular job (unless it was needed by my regular job, e.g. on the open source fro
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zeeg
3y ago
This would a great segway for another post as theres a ton of nuance and interesting history in how Sentry has approached the competitive market. I'll add to the list and maybe at some point do one just around that. That said, almost a
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GlitchTip isnt a fork. Its a reimplementation of Sentry by folks who I had never had interactions with (afaik) before we migrated to BUSL. They leverage our SDKs, and maybe they've vendored in some of our original code (hopefully corre
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zeeg
3y ago
Will add to the list of potential topics. Its definitely a challenge, and does require personal sacrifice (e.g. its really hard to balance the demands of both jobs). I wanted to go deeper on so many things, but I also didn't want this
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