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yters
6y ago
i see, so this topic is considered 'intellectually curious' while anti-ccp is 'loyalty to a cause' i am not really sure how you make that determination, i personally find accounts of what the ccp does to exploit its citi
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yters
6y ago
why are you asking loaded questions? it is almost as if you are not interested in having a discussion, but would rather post talking points that i already agree with hard to understand the point of what you are doing
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yters
6y ago
i bring up this argument when anti ccp topics get flagged or modded, but for some reason the argument does not work in that context
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yters
6y ago
i am curious about that too it is the justification given for shutting down anti ccp discussions and articles what makes this situation different? surely not the scale of human atrocity? ccp still has the us gov beat, hands down. maybe us
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yters
6y ago
consider why you are making assumptions about what I believe? even if, for sake of argument, bad cops are instigating all the riots and looting, the media optics will make this a slam dunk for trump 2020 and more militarized police exactly
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yters
6y ago
why dont you think the dictatorship is the outcome of implementing at scale? e.g. if private property must be eliminated to have a commune, and most people wont give up their private property willingly, what other way is there to eliminate
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yters
6y ago
perhaps if i saw protesters actively stopping violence and looting instead of just spectating and filming and cheering, as well as comments supporting violence getting flagged on hn otherwise, plenty of people may not be personally willing
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yters
6y ago
i've conversed with a couple of people on HN who seem to think rioting is aligned, and in fact more effective than peaceful protests they weren't downvoted, whereas my counter comments were so, it seems this opinion that violence
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yters
6y ago
i wonder if the rioters realize that violence in the streets is exactly how dictators gain power
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yters
6y ago
ironically, or maybe not, antifa tactics are those most likely to induce a truly facist regime, e.g. how hitler took control
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yters
6y ago
what exactly is your counter proposal? the united communes of america? monopoly on violence exists because people are evil and violent without a lawful monopoly on violence you get much of what you see in the rest of the world anarchist wan
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yters
6y ago
i would say it is short term gain, but longer term police and businesses will just leave black neighborhoods leaving them even more broken and poverty stricken, meanwhile the politicians will keep them on welfare and drugs to bring in the v
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yters
6y ago
i think the cop issue is a higher standard cops have a lawful monopoly on force, and if you cannot trust that will be used justly, then we lose the whole basis of rule by law
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yters
6y ago
would you prefer a country with no rule of law? there are plenty of those around to check out
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yters
6y ago
it seems you believe i am racist. how did you arrive at that conclusion? or do you assume people who disagree with you are racist?
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yters
6y ago
how would you characterize your efforts to understand what i am saying and communicate in a clear and unbiased manner?
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yters
6y ago
i would ask you the same thing you have never met me, but seem to know a whole lot about what i do and do not know how did you get this information about me, and how do you know it is true? or are you just making a bunch of baseless assumpt
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yters
6y ago
why are you asking loaded questions?
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yters
6y ago
look, i get the point that riots draw attention and show people are fed up. that makes sense but, in baltimore that just led to lax police, more crime, and more homicides i believe the same will happen with these riots. police will withdra
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yters
6y ago
I showed the crime rates went up after the riots because the police have stopped actively cleaning up crime. You never showed how the supporting evidence is wrong, nor why my inference was incorrect. You mainly nitpicked insignificant det
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yters
6y ago
Yes, that is a fair point. I just wish the experts were better communicators to us lay people.
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yters
6y ago
The point is clear the police withdrawing has not improved things. The solution clearly lies elsewhere. And the 2015 riots did not make anything better.
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yters
6y ago
This article from USA Today in 2018 implies the effect has been indefinite. Interesting graph, too, that shows the drop in police actively stopping petty crime correlates with a growth in homicides. I heard a Baltimore radio show in 2019
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yters
6y ago
There's the homicide rate, which jumped from 33.8% in 2014 to 55.4% in 2015, and has stayed above 50% since. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Baltimore#Crime_stati... A little further down: "Homicides i
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yters
6y ago
I've done a bit of reading from the experts. I read the main debunking article about this lab theory, and personally did not really understand why the authors were so confident their evidence eliminated the lab theory. - https:/
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yters
6y ago
I've heard the 2015 riots resulted in a stand down of the police force in Baltimore, and since then crime in the city has increased significantly. Sounds like the reason criminals are not rioting is because they won. Great for the cr
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yters
6y ago
I am not aware of facts supporting the claim that african americans live under an authoritarian regime. I am aware that a number of african americans have been unjustly killed by police. That is a different claim than african americans are
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yters
6y ago
What are the facts supporting your claim?
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yters
6y ago
Hmm, still not following. Why would the fact both are betacoronaviruses entail ace2 is conserved? Is human binding ace2 a common feature of betacoronaviruses? Are you arguing that sars is the more recent ancestor than ratg13? I blasted s
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yters
6y ago
I spend most of my free time programming for fun. It is not unheard of.
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