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wdaher
13y ago
You should definitely apply. Hacker School has created a really productive space for people (of a variety of skill levels) interested in programming, and I think two things have made that the case: #1 is definitely that interesting people a
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13y ago
I think this is an awesome idea regardless of what comes of it. My internal data nerd is dying for a follow-up post with a breakdown: * How many site hits? * How many of those turned into actual coffees? * How many of those actually showed
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14y ago
I really like this analogy - very clear, and it gets at the essence of what's going on here. Reminds me of this similar abstract explanation of zero-knowledge proofs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof#Abstract_e...
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14y ago
That offer is for druiid only :), but --reverse is in the works. (And seriously, editing the script and hacking together a quick reverse is pretty easy, but I just want to make sure we take the time to get it right in all the annoying littl
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14y ago
Yeah, getting these posts back up has largely been a casualty of our lack of resources, not any sort of coordinated malicious plot against them. But we're glad you like 'em! (and I think your comment was the little bit of kick we needed to
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14y ago
https://wikis.oracle.com/display/oraclelinux/Downloading+Ora...
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14y ago
I'm not saying Oracle would have done so, but up until very recently, CentOS refused to accept cash donations. Now they're re-evaluating the policy.
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14y ago
Ironically, as a t-shirt/flip-flop nerd myself, I was hoping that this would be something that would appeal to nerds, rather than pissing them off: "Hey, Oracle is giving me this thing that sounds useful for free".
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14y ago
Correct.
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14y ago
'--reverse' is on my wishlist as well, and I want to see it implemented, if nothing else because it makes the whole situation less scary-looking.
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14y ago
For what it's worth, the thesis of the 'switch' page that the post references is "You're running CentOS, and aren't paying anyone for support, why should you consider Oracle Linux?" If you're looking for content on "Why run Oracle Linux rat
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14y ago
There isn't a reverse script yet, but you're right, making one would be fairly straightforward. '--reverse' is something I'd like to see implemented, though, if nothing else because it'll assuage people's fears, and makes it feel less risky
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14y ago
From the release notes: "By default, both the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel and the Red Hat Compatible Kernel are installed on the x86_64 (64 bit) platform, and the system boots the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by default. If needed, /etc/
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14y ago
Absolutely not! (The confusion stems from the fact that Oracle also has the "Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel", which it also offers, but you need to explicitly install that with the "kernel-uek" package.)
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14y ago
Yes, you're absolutely right, and that wasn't my intent. (If I could edit it, I'd tone it down a little.) My goal is just to have people consider the case on its merits. If you've thought about it and concluded "OK, I see what you're offer
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14y ago
druiid: If that happens, I will personally help you switch back any systems you switched over this way :) My email address is in my profile. As for everyone else, yeah, a '--reverse' was somewhere in our set of desired features for the s
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14y ago
The issue with that strategy is that it's totally untenable. As soon as Step 4 happens, someone else makes a new CentOS that everyone switches to. Fundamentally, there is a market need for something to fill the niche of CentOS. I happen to
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14y ago
Everyone we sold Ksplice to on RHEL is still running Ksplice on RHEL. So it's more accurate to say that we closed the door on new subscriptions for anything other than Oracle Linux, but all existing subscriptions remain unaffected (and thos
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14y ago
> I take the point that the script and the reversion of the changes introduced by the script could be tested on a development box running CentOS. Yes, that was my thinking here. That you'd spin up a CentOS VM or run it on a test system,
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14y ago
Honestly, my target audience with this page is precisely Linux enthusiasts. Presumably the enterprise customers are all either running RHEL or are already buying Oracle Linux support contracts, and wouldn't be interested in "Oh, I could j
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14y ago
I'm totally with you on fear of lockin, but for what it's worth, this particular case is basically the opposite of lock-in. You can, at any time, switch away to CentOS, Scientific Linux, or Red Hat (if you're willing to write the check) and
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14y ago
My understanding is: There's a DTrace beta for Linux. There are no plans to port ZFS to Linux (but, Oracle is investing a lot in making btrfs kick ass). [1] https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/entry/dtrace_for_oracle_linux... [2] https://foru
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14y ago
There's a ton to talk about in the "Why Oracle Linux and not RHEL" department, but I'm not trying to sell you anything, so I want to set that aside for now. (I have to say, though, even the "big price tag" is significantly smaller than RHEL
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14y ago
By the way, Scientific Linux isn't perfect when it comes to these delays either. I wanted to make a similar graph plotting SL, but laziness prevailed. (I crawled the RHEL, CentOS, and OL mailman archives to get the data, but SL uses listser
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14y ago
FWIW, I think if you actually talked to any of our legacy Ksplice customers and asked them if the Ksplice experience has changed for them after the Oracle acquisition, the answer would be "no".
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14y ago
I don't think I've ever espoused that opinion! I like CentOS a lot. I had a beer with Karanbir in London in 2009, and I'm totally impressed that they're able to put out an incredibly popular Linux distribution with next to nothing, resource
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14y ago
About half of this is accurate. We didn't discontinue support for CentOS; our legacy customers can continue to get access to Ksplice for all the distros we used to support. We did stop accepting new customers for anything other than Oracle
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14y ago
I was trying to go for a "for linux nerds, by linux nerds" vibe, so I'm amused that your complaint is "This doesn't sound corporate enough". At the end of the day, my view here is that Oracle has actually produced something useful, but lots
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14y ago
Yes, that's me!
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14y ago
Given that Red Hat still can't get some people to move off RHEL 3, I'm amused that you think this could actually kill CentOS :) And in the unlikely event that it were to happen, you could just switch to Scientific Linux, or whatever new RHE
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