verttii

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by verttii 7y ago
But on the other hand, it's been hard to put my finger on the tangible benefits of all that time spent on Haskell. I'm worried that I end up going deep into that rabbit hole without really benefiting from it.
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by verttii 7y ago
I'm just like you. I use Elixir for anything serious and Haskell for personal or small scale projects. The way I see it is that Haskell abstracts away the runtime considerations. You spend the majority of your time modeling your busine
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by verttii 7y ago
This kinds of harsh yet legitimate criticism puts me off from spending more time on the notoriously steep Haskell learning curve.
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by verttii 7y ago
Unfortunately, without concrete examples it's hard to grasp what features you really mean.
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by verttii 7y ago
I think declarative is a paradigm, a way of thinking and reasoning about code, rather than a means to an end. Declarative code would obviously raise the abstraction level (as it hides implementation details that you produce with imperative
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by verttii 7y ago
Not sure what all that sunshine has done so far about those concentration camps in Xinjiang and possibly elsewhere too. I'd say just about nothing. The communist party seems rather immune to criticism. Franky, HK's struggle looks
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by verttii 7y ago
Forgive my ignorance, but how can C++ programs be easily as high level as Haskell, which is declarative, garbage collected and curried by default? Does C++ even have algebraic data types, not to mention more advanced stuff like GADTs etc. t
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by verttii 7y ago
But what can we do? Invade China for what they're doing in their own city?
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by verttii 7y ago
Nobody is waging war against China over HK. There may be blood shed but that'll be the HK locals', not any foreign nation. I don't see how this could anyhow escalate beyond HK. China can hate the USA as much as they want but
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by verttii 7y ago
Though what could we do about it?
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by verttii 7y ago
To be honest there's really not much anyone is willing to do for HK. Particularly the European nations are doing everything to avoid provoking China anyhow. Look at how almost no one is willing to even acknowledge Taiwan's indepen
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by verttii 7y ago
I don't think you're wrong in reasoning that you would learn new beneficial concepts by picking up new less mainstream languages that pioneer these concepts. I've invested some time in picking up Haskell and it's been wo
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by verttii 7y ago
I feel you're unfairly comparing Haskell to the likes of C/C++ that it's not really a rival with. Haskell is a (very) high level language, not a procedural language to build systems on. A more appropriate comparison would be
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by verttii 7y ago
I really doubt it's that. Probably more to do with how little sunshine there is over the winter (which is long and cold).
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by verttii 7y ago
But on the other hand, any meaningful comparisons get harder and less relevant for us if we use a time span of the past 150 years. I don't know if it really even matters that much that most companies die eventually. They're still
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by verttii 7y ago
But even Linux was ultimately developed in USA. So was/is Unity. I don't know if Linux would've ever been the success it is had Linus Torvalds stayed in Finland developing it. I'd hope we would have a big list of recent
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by verttii 7y ago
> So your complaint is that Nordic countries try to make give everyone a good standard of living rather than creating poverty so a few more millionaires can become billionaires? That's putting words into my mouth. I'm not compl
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by verttii 7y ago
In all fairness the Vietnamese had among the most battle-trained armies of the time, with massive manpower, enough of weaponry and extreme determination. Plus a difficult terrain. Equipment-wise they had infantry weapons, artillery, air for
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by verttii 7y ago
The people in HK have no training in any form of warfare, guerilla or not. They're just not mentally nor physically equipped to conduct any sort of warfare, especially against a superior power like China. I doubt China ultimately cares
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by verttii 7y ago
Hehe yes the Haskell community certainly suffers from the dynamics you just described. I guess my problem with TS ADTs is just that they're done with the TS primitives whereas they could be true first class citizens. But such a feature
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by verttii 7y ago
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.j...
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by verttii 7y ago
it's of both. Nokia was heavily constrained by the Finnish labor laws and working culture.
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by verttii 7y ago
I agree with what you said. All these things compound and have multiplied effects. It's hard to blame a single factor like working hours when the underlying reasons for even that are cultural, political, geographical, historical etc.
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by verttii 7y ago
Ok I'm used to considering only Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Iceland as Nordic countries. They're also the only members of the Nordic council. Estonia I've always just considered a Baltic country, which I suppose is a
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by verttii 7y ago
In contrast, if USA is not performing better then why are most of the digital innovations of US origin? Why do like half of the world's tech billionaires live in Silicon Valley? While Finland has maybe 1? The Scandinavian countries foc
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by verttii 7y ago
Yep, that's much of the reason. The whole ecosystem is just incredibly well developed over there.
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by verttii 7y ago
Estonia is certainly performing well. But since it's so tiny it's really hard to compare against a giant like USA. Although much of the same problem applies to Nordics. We use Google, Facebook, Youtube, Snapchat, Whatsapp, Apple -
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by verttii 7y ago
Interesting, since New Zealand is in many ways comparable with Finland. In Finland the tax rate for $100K USD would be 41.3% on average. The common consumption tax is 24% (VAT). On top of that, certain goods like alcohol, gas, cars, could h
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by verttii 7y ago
Well just dropping a link to a news article or a study wouldn't really change things. If you look at who's the one producing major digital innovations it's still USA. Sure the Nordic countries are smaller but it's hard t
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by verttii 7y ago
I guess it depends on what you compare with. If you're coming from Java or the like, surely TS does not feel particularly verbose. However, coming from a truly terse language like Haskell you'll just feel TS is too verbose and not

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