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turquoisevar
3y ago
This is why nuance and details are key in legal matters and where the sum is greater than the parts. Where the line gets drawn is often unclear and is often a matter of “I know it when I see it”. Just individually comparing prices isn’t an
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turquoisevar
3y ago
> The core platform service in this case would be iOS itself. You’re right, iOS is a CPS. But that doesn’t change much in the meaning of the provision, nor does it make it applicable to web developers. Specifically for iOS it would chang
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3y ago
You’re misreading pretty much everything you’ve quoted from the DMA. > No, DMA wording made it very clear that it's about web browser engine. You follow this up by quoting a clause that manages core platform services. What it says i
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turquoisevar
3y ago
Really? This is what you want to spend your time on doing? > Source for where I claimed this? Source for where I said you claimed this? > Source for where I said anything about accomplishments or relevance? Source for where I said a
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3y ago
> Investing in PWAs for four years is only going to get you so far when you’re eight years behind the competition. I don’t think this speaks to intention, the investments that have been made and are still being made bring with them a cos
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3y ago
> The histrionical descriptions of other people's takes are like nails on chalkboard and kinda gross. (bloody murder?) Claiming that Apple is trying to “kill” PWAs is in and of itself histrionic. Especially when behavioral evidence
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3y ago
Who do you think gave their blessing for PWAs to run on WebKit only? https://9to5mac.com/2024/02/26/apple-blocking-web-apps/
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3y ago
This is the most likely theory. The notion that Apple was purposefully trying to kill PWAs never made sense in light of their significant investment in supporting PWAs over the last four years, down to recruiting industry rockstars such as
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3y ago
Nope, that’s not what iA says, and it would be a gross misrepresentation of the DMA to be honest. The section they’re referring to is clause 64 in the lead of the DMA[0] and it is not only limited to cases of interoperability, unlike what i
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3y ago
That’s simply not true. Don’t take my word as an iOS dev for it, the fact that a bunch of effective ad blockers exist, one of which I use and just told you about, directly refutes your claim.
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turquoisevar
3y ago
What a weak argument. So because uBlock Origin refuses to make an extension for iOS, extensions don’t exist? I use Wipr, and it’s been better than the beloved uBlock has ever been.
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3y ago
> Do you know if Apple’s MDM is the same for their retail and corporate employees? Apple Connect, SSO authentication service, is used by all Apple employees, both corporate and retail. The actual MDM itself (what is allowed, how much is
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3y ago
Apple’s MDM is a bit different. It runs through a SSO service called Apple Connect and Apple encourages employees to use their personal Apple ID to link to it instead of creating a separate Apple ID. It essentially adds a special entitlemen
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3y ago
How do you reconcile this claim regarding Apple’s intent to crush web apps with their increased investment in supporting PWAs over the last four years up to and including the upcoming Safari release and recruiting top talent such as Jen Sim
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3y ago
> Siri won't learn from Safari activity, anymore? Can you clarify what you mean by this? If Siri would be the one benefiting (which is what you seem to be saying?) then it wouldn’t give Safari an unfair advantage. No virtual ass
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3y ago
I see this point, and others similar to it brought up often, and I think it stems from misunderstanding what antitrust regulation is trying to solve. By the way, I say this respectfully, not as a dig towards you. From a US antitrust perspec
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3y ago
And what do you say to those who point out that Apple has invested significantly in supporting PWAs the last 4 years or so? To the point that PWA support matches, and in some cases surpasses, Firefox with more on the way as we speak? Doesn’
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3y ago
Pretty much. You emphasized “all” to imply there are so many, but honestly I can’t think of much beyond what they’re already mitigating to comply with the DMA. You’ll get a browser selection screen now, other engines will be allowed, defaul
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3y ago
> That's kind of the point, PWAs don't have parity on any platform That’s not true, nor what I posited. PWAs have almost all the native features, if not all, depending on the platform. Plenty of “pro-PWA” people go out of their
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3y ago
> The whole reason they are low usage on PWAs is because of a lack of investment from Apple and a lack of parity This is a trite argument that hasn’t been true ever since Jen Simmons joined Apple in 2020 and changed the course of Safari
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3y ago
It's the other way around, actually… sort of. It means that a Dutch court can't test the constitutionality of laws made by the Dutch government in concert with parliament. In legal parlance translated from Dutch, these would be ca
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3y ago
The topic at hand is developers, more specifically developer sentiment towards Apple and the App Store. That is the topic of the article (RTFA) and it’s the topic of the GP you replied to originally. You had no qualms going OT talking about
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3y ago
Prefacing this with the fact that I never had a good feel for UK law due, in part due to it being a common law system vs. the common law system I’m more familiar with on mainland Europe. Plus, I’ve not kept up with what, if anything, the UK
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You’ve got it backwards. The US allows for a lot of interpretation on intent and context by judges. In the EU this is far more restricted and the black letter law is way more important. That said, in the EU there’s more of a tradition in ci
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3y ago
> Most developers are pleased with the current paradigm. I am. I’m also a developer that is very happy and who’s sick and tired of corporate devs acting like they speak for me, followed by outlets who echo everything they say like it’s g
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Users obviously would like to pay less. But you imply that lower commissions somehow trickle down to users. I happily admit that I pocketed the 15% discount I got once the Small Business Program launched and so did all of my peers. I can’t
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Sadly, and I say this with all the love for my Polish brethren and sisters, Poland and many Eastern European countries still have some catching up to do. The silver lining, however, is that these countries make significant headway at a stea
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Your framing is a bit disingenuous. For one, there’s, of course, the simple matter that these kinds of things shouldn’t happen and that cases like hers bring it to light. The implied alternative by you would mean companies can keep being po
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That might be part of it, but far and away the main reason for that is to offset the state’s ability to tout about having no income tax. There’s a list floating around by some personal finance blog that ranks the states based on effective t
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Fair, you got me there. I meant more so regarding future plans and other than release notes. But fair is fair, they make comments in their release notes.
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