> The histrionical descriptions of other people's takes are like nails on chalkboard and kinda gross. (bloody murder?) Claiming that Apple is trying to “kill”

> The histrionical descriptions of other people's takes are like nails on chalkboard and kinda gross. (bloody murder?) Claiming that Apple is trying to “kill” PWAs is in and of itself histrionic. Especially when behavioral evidence that clearly points to the opposite is completely ignored and the bad faith intents are attributed wholly based on “vibes”. My categorizing that as screaming bloody murder isn’t an escalation in rhetoric[0] in the slightest. > Jen Simmons isn't a "rock star." It’s a figure of speech within the industry, granted, it typically also implies big ego issues, so perhaps the term isn’t so suitable when it comes to Simmons. > Hiring someone with a lot of Twitter followers Trying to diminish someone’s accomplishments and relevance within an industry by pretending they “just have a lot of Twitter followers” does nothing to refute my arguments. She’s one of 82 web developers with a Wiki bio and one of 177 programmers, that alone signifies notability. Point is that that she’s a high profile programmer and web developer and those come at a premium. That, plus the significant efforts made in the last four years to not only support PWAs but also improve standards, runs counter to the notion that Apple has ill will towards PWAs. While she has spearheaded a lot of the investment in PWAs, for the purposes of this debate I only brought her up to emphasize Apple’s investments in making improvements. Even with Simmons out of the equation there’s still four years of significant engineering efforts to reconcile. > doesn't preclude the company from stopping doing something. You’re begging the question here. Without you substantiating the implication that Apple has stopped improving PWAs, you’re just throwing around empty words. Nevertheless, it’s clear Apple hasn’t stopped their efforts on PWAs, given that the next Safari update will, again, include a slew of improvements to the benefit of PWAs as can be seen in the Safari Technology Preview release notes[1]. I’m amenable to debate this further, provided you put in some effort into make a credible case with substantiated arguments and you can keep the tone policing to yourself. 0: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scream%20bloody%20murder https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scream%20bloody%2... 1: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-technology-preview-release-notes/stp-release-189 https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-technology-...