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by tpush 5y ago
> Apple hashes all of your photos offline [...] No, only the ones designated for upload to iCloud. > [...] it’s about governments forcing Apple to do things with this new weapon Governments can already force Apple to do any kind of sc
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by tpush 5y ago
It's a bit confusing; 2 paragraphs above that line: "Next, iOS and iPadOS will use new applications of cryptography to help limit the spread of CSAM online, while designing for user privacy." That implies macOS isn't get
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by tpush 5y ago
> [...] Appla can automatically send a report to the police. Just to clarify, Apple doesn't report anyone to the police. They report to NCMEC, who presumably contacts law enforcement.
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by tpush 5y ago
Since it concerns iCloud, it probably depends on your Apple ID region. But I don't think Apple has stated anything conclusive.
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It's generally just a tiny portion of hard core Mac fans. The vast, vast majority of users (most of which use Windows) doesn't care at all.
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Well, I guess it's hard to care about (platform-)native apps and toolkits when cross-platform apps are generally winning these days (VSCode, Figma etc.) over native Mac apps, even on macOS itself. Plus most new apps by Apple these da
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by tpush 5y ago
> Then it is almost useless. I'm sure you're in a prime position to judge that. > In reality, perceptual hashing systems use fuzzy matching on hashes by using a metric like hamming distance to calculate differences between t
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by tpush 5y ago
Apple's system only concerns exact hash matches, and is built so transformed images hash to the same number.
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'Similar' hashes wouldn't do anything; the system hashes perceptually similar images (cropped, resized etc.) to the same hash.
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by tpush 5y ago
No, manual review only happens after the threshold is reached. Meaning, there is a 1 in a trillion chance that threshold-number of images are manually verified by Apple.
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Got ya, sorry!
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Are you announcing a murder-suicide here? @dang
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'Communists' instead of 'socialists' actually; the US version is inaccurate due to anti-communist propaganda.
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It does not. Only photos (designated to be) uploaded to iCloud Photo Library.
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by tpush 5y ago
No, they did not. That was erroneous reporting by the Telegraph that a lot of outlets copied [0]. The correction: > This story originally said Apple screens photos when they are uploaded to iCloud, Apple’s cloud storage service. Ms Horva
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by tpush 5y ago
Does every post about Facebook have to result in a massive circle jerking of comments? These get tiring to read every time. Almost none of the comments right now offer any substance at all, just mindless sound bites and jokes.
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by tpush 5y ago
What I meant and the interview is saying is that they haven't ever scanned 'iCloud Photo Library'. As you point out, they were (still are?) scanning iCloud emails (only on warrant?), and of course are providing iCloud backups
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Because it's a vowel and always followed by a consonant, so you can always intuitively pronounce those names.
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Interesting infos: > This is an area we’ve been looking at for some time, including current state of the art techniques which mostly involves scanning through entire contents of users libraries on cloud services that — as you point out —
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by tpush 5y ago
> Clientside scanning will happen even without iCloud. Again, you don't know that. "Scanning" (whatever that even means) non-iCloud photos would be completely pointless. And you said: > The only reason to do this client
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by tpush 5y ago
With currently I obviously meant the system that's going to be deployed in the next major update. The rest of my points still stand.
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by tpush 5y ago
WhatsApp does by default save received images to your photo library (as opposed to e.g. iMessage). You can turn that off, though. And the permission to read from a user's photo library (to e.g. post images) includes the ability to writ
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by tpush 5y ago
This is not the kind of algorithm that Apple is be using. That one only scans for already known CSAM in NCMEC's database.
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by tpush 5y ago
> This will happen with or without iCloud; You don't know that. > The only reason to do this clientside when the data is already readable on the server is to do it to images that aren't hitting the cloud. Or to eventually e2
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by tpush 5y ago
Presumably you consent by turning on iCloud Photo Library.
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It only applies to children up to age 12 (inclusive).
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That capability obviously already exists independent from this CSAM-scanning system.
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Of course they can; The point is that they don't want to if they don't need to.
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I mean, that same situation already applies right now without this system being deployed. China already can mandate Apple to scan all iCloud or on-device photos for certain images etc. if they wanted to.
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by tpush 5y ago
They explicitly don't want to implement it server-side due to the privacy concerns of decrypting every image in iCloud Photos. Doing it on-device limits Apple's possession of decrypted photos to those likely to be CSAM.

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