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FYI instig007 is not part of the Haskell community but seems to occasionally lambast people about Haskell, risking giving the Haskell community a bad name: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44199980
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> > Hmm, I don't want to put words into your mouth here > Kinda seems like you do since I didn't say anything like that. > I said that Egypt bears some responsibility for the deaths because of they made that choice. I
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Oh Dan, come on , really?! OP has been making all sorts of claims and failed to justify them with any more than "just look it up", and also making all sorts of assumptions about me. Saying what I said was about the most kind I
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> > Furthermore, normally in times of war, third countries allow civilians to flee to safety. Why won't Egypt? Why won't other countries take in refugees via Egypt? Why do they insist that civilians must stay in harm's
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> This is not a war, this an occupation and slaughter. Isreal has killed 50 times as many people as Hamas. Right, so we come back to my original question, which I asked in order to determine whether we have a basis for a discussion: &quo
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A few thoughts: 1. "Not seeing any other reason" doesn't seem to be a particularly strong argument. But let's take it at face value. Estimates of German civilian deaths during WW2 range from 1.5m to 3m people: https:&
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There seem to be a few strands getting entangled here. If you look earlier in the thread you'll see I'm asking for justification of the claim of "collective punishment". So far I haven't seen any, and indeed I have
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Do you think Israel is acting against its own survival?
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> During a surprise attack. Yes indeed, I'm talking about the surprise attack phase. (Israel has experienced a surprise attack before that has put its continued existence in question: the Yom Kippur war.) And in fact, looking at h
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I'm still not sure what you mean. Are you saying that when children are unintentionally killed in war that is "punishment"? Were the children killed by NATO troops in Afghanistan "punished"? For that matter, do yo
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> Who has a religious decree against nuclear weapons since they cannot be used without massacring civilians? Did Iran kill any civilians when they bombarded Israel with ballistic missiles a few weeks ago? > Israel and it's 3 digi
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1y ago
It's not "faux". I mean it genuinely. It's one thing to claim that Israel should ensure food security (that's my point of view). It's quite another to claim "collective punishment", and that doesn&
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Can you please finish the argument? I don't think you can be saying that all starvation is punishment.
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It's indeed collective. Are you certain it's a punishment ?
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I suspect most Israelis think differently. Even if "the arabs in the region are bad at fighting" they still outnumber the Israeli population by something like 20 to 40 times, depending on how you count. About one Israeli was kil
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Do you believe Israel's continued existence is assured?
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1y ago
Which guideline did I violate? I genuinely don't know.
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OK, as you prefer. Thanks for persevering anyhow.
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Your proof of apartheid was supposedly "in the occupied areas Arabs WITH Israeli passports are not allowed to visit certain areas". That's the claim that I'm challenging. Sorry if you thought I was discussing something e
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1y ago
You did not link to a Wikipedia article. Unfortunately I do not have the resources to watch Louis Theroux's documentary, which I'm sure is full of his characteristic dry takes.
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1y ago
You haven't linked your sources on the matter at all ...
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Well, I have found some sources and they say that Arabs with Israeli citizenship can live in Israeli settlements in the West Bank: https://old.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/v8s88z/ara... https
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Thank you for unflagging some of the posts. I think that the discussion reads a lot better now. I sympathise with the difficult position that you're in but given the hostility here to hearing views from a variety of angles I'm af
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> What I pointed out is that there are areas within Israel where Arabs with an Israeli passport cannot enter. Actually you said > in the occupied areas Arabs WITH Israeli passports are not allowed to visit certain areas But in any cas
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I'm not sure what you mean. I'm saying that the reason that Arabs with Israeli passports are not allowed to enter certain areas of the West Bank is because no one with an Israeli passport is allowed to enter those areas.
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> in the occupied areas Arabs WITH Israeli passports are not allowed to visit certain areas No one with an Israeli passport is allowed to visit Area A of the West Bank, regardless of their ethnicity.
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I'm having trouble understanding the notion of "permanent military occupation of Gaza before 2005". Just out of interest, who occupied Gaza before 1967? And who before 1948? And who before 1920?
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So it seems that genocide per se is not actually considered an important topic of discussion by those who frequent HN.
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Interesting. Can you point to some discussions about the Masalit genocide, which is currently taking place?
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1y ago
My guess is as with most emergent phenomena: both. Accidental that it happens in the first place, intentional that little is done to redress the balance. How could it be anything else?
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