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throwawayq3423
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
> Huh? ICE is targeting illegal aliens. Overstaying your visa is a civil offense. Kidnapping and assaulting people who haven't even committed a misdemeanor is illegal and unconstitutional. > Protesters try to interfere ICE target
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
> See... this is kinda how I know you have a political axe to grind. > Allow me a quick rewrite of your breathless response in a more reasonable language. The fact that you won't just reply point by point and want to spin up a se
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8mo ago
> Targetted killing of US citizen without a trial via drone strike ( Anwar al-Awlaki ) This was in a literal war zone against a man who literally declared war on the United States. > Signed 2012 NDAA with 'indefinite detention&#x
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
One more try, what did Obama in terms of abusing his police state targeting American citizens that even approached what we are seeing with ICE, the FBI, etc. right now.
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
> If Snowden hasn't moved quickly, he wouldn't have been able to leak any of it. How does stealings sensitive materials not related to domestic surveillance improve his odds of successfully leaking information and fleeing the c
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
How does that change or affect the point I'm making? > This was of course not known at the time. The only thing that was known is that a single individual was responsible for the greatest breach of classified secrets in the nation&#
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
> On Friday, May 10, a top official with the Internal Revenue Service dropped a bombshell. IRS staffers had singled out conservative organizations with “tea party” or “patriots” in their name that were seeking tax-exempt nonprofit status
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
> The federal government was found violating the constitution This was of course not known at the time.
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
It's the standard we're discussing. It's what Donald Trump's DHS is doing right now and the Snowden comparisons are irrelevant and imo a bad faith attempt at trying to muddy the waters. Stop both sides-ing everything the
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8mo ago
> The info was already out there when they were going after him. This was of course not known at the time. The only thing that was known is that a single individual was responsible for the greatest breach of classified secrets in the nat
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
europeans are well versed in the consequences of autocratic takeover of their governments, why they pretend to not know even recent history of the 20th century, I'll never understand.
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
Who was imprisoned for their speech against the US president by Obama and how did Snowden stop that? Because that is exactly what we're talking about here. And if you don't have a like-for-like comparison, then we have nothing to
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
Less than 1% of what Snowden took and leaked pertained to domestic surveillance programs, The rest was intelligence capabilities and sources and methods. But that's besides the point. There is a real argument that the U.S. government,
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8mo ago
just to be clear trump administration is not using Patriot Act era standards. They're going far beyond what any previous administration has done and openly breaking the law. I have a feeling they would have gotten here even if Obama di
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
Good faith by the federal government can no longer be assumed. Donald Trump's real legacy is not any single action, but a complete inversion of trust of the US government by its citizens. And the world.
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
Edward Snowden had stolen the most sensitive classified secrets from The United States Intelligence Community and Donald Trump is looking to squash dissent of his attempts to nullify the Constitution and establish a dictatorship. I get what
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
It's the people most convinced they have certainty over the mass web of conspiracies that secretly run the world that can never get basic things right, like attributable quotes.
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
Honestly, that's clever.
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
> This quote, often phrased as "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false," is widely attributed to William J. Casey, who served as the Director of Central Inte
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
Not if everything is made up on the spot for clicks and views, which is where we're heading.
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
I would also like to see a comparison to prove the point.
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throwawayq3423
8mo ago
At least they let the people behind it give a farewell message. Most cuts to government are abrupt and unceremonious.
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throwawayq3423
9mo ago
I imagine the "what's next" is the same for replicating Coke or WD-40, you have a similar product and none of the name recognition or ad spend. Not worth much.
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9mo ago
> Even the Rodney King riots didn't have as many deaths (gunshots or otherwise) as the worst EU football events. I honestly don't even know what you're referring to. There have been tragedies related collapses of stadiums
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throwawayq3423
9mo ago
Considering Americans get shot during riots, I would say you're wrong.
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throwawayq3423
9mo ago
Why is every fortified civilization gone and their remnants a tourist attraction then at this point?
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throwawayq3423
9mo ago
> History seems to indicate that in the absence of law, those with the most people inside a fortified structure and position are the most likely to survive. Source?
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throwawayq3423
9mo ago
Ok they are "consultants" with a federally guaranteed moat.
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throwawayq3423
10mo ago
Whistleblowers know that jail is a real possibility. That's why whistleblowers are brave, and that's why Edward Snowden is not one.
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throwawayq3423
10mo ago
> His options at that point were pretty much limited to prison in the US or seeking protection from the Russian government You're just justifying his decision, not refuting that he made it.
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