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thimabi
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> Personally my theory is that Gemini benefits from being able to train on Googles massive internal code base But does Google actually train its models on its internal codebase? Considering that there’s always the risk of the models leak
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For first time, Webb telescope discovers an alien planet
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I mean, using data that has been explicitly opted out of training paves the way for lawsuits and huge administrative fines in various jurisdictions. I might be naive, but I don’t think that’s something OpenAI would deliberately do.
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thimabi
1y ago
That bears no relation to OpenAI using data for training purposes. Although the court’s decision is problematic, user data is being kept for legal purposes only, and OpenAI is not authorized to use it to train its models.
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1y ago
Workspace users with the Business Standard plan have access to Gemini Advanced, which is Google’s AI offering via the Web interface and mobile apps. This does not include API usage, AI Studio, Gemini CLI, etc. — all of which are of course a
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You raise an interesting topic. Right now, when we think about privacy in the AI space, most of the discussion hinges on using our data for training purposes or not. That being said, I figure it won’t be long before AI companies use the dat
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An interesting thing is that Google AI offers are much more confusing than the OpenAI ones — despite the fact that ChatGPT models have one of the worst naming schemes in the industry. Google has confusing model names, plans, API tiers, and
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1y ago
> Does this mean I can use Gemini CLI using my Workspace entitlement? No, you cannot use neither Gemini CLI nor Code Assist via Workspace — at least not at the moment. However, if you upgrade your Workspace plan, you can use Gemini Advan
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> everyone else has either the same policy or no free usage That’s not true. ChatGPT, even in the free tier, allows users to opt out of data sharing.
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Don’t know about Claude, but usually Google’s free offers have no privacy protections whatsoever — all data is kept and used for training purposes, including manual human review.
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1y ago
The reason is that billing is separate, via the paid tier of the API. Just a few minutes ago, I was able to test Gemini CLI using a Workspace account after setting up a project in the free tier of the API. However, that seems to have been a
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> free tier for Workspace isn't yet supported. sorry. you need to set the project and pay. Well, I've just set up Gemini CLI with a Workspace account project in the free tier, and it works apparently for free. Can you explain w
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Thanks for your clarification. I've been able to set up Gemini CLI with my Workspace account. Just a heads-up: your docs about authentication on Github say to place a GOOGLE_CLOUD_PROJECT_ID as an environment variable. However, what th
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1y ago
I believe Workspace users have to pay a separate subscription to use the Gemini CLI, the so-called “Gemini for Google Cloud”, which starts at an additional 19 dollars per month [^1]. If that’s really the case, it’s very disappointing to me.
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Thanks for picking up that minor spelling mistake. Can’t correct it now, unfortunately, but at least the message is understandable. I do disagree with your premise that Gaddafi’s death was a natural consequence of the Western intervention.
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> The US and Israel were lucky that Iran built their Fordow plant only 50 meters underground. What will the US do when Iran rebuilds it far deeper? Most likely Israel would attack even before such a facility became operational. It’s not
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In this specific case of the Iranian nuclear program, I believe the highly-enriched uranium weights more in the balance than any other domestic reason for Netanyahu to act. There’s no way any Israeli government will willingly let Iran have
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Considering that his own population was vehemently opposed to his authoritarian regime, I don’t think it’s fair to say Gaddafi’s fate was tied to the end of the nuclear programme. I certainly hope he wouldn’t leash nuclear weapons on his fe
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Thank you for clarifying that. I’ve researched this once again and confirmed that Google treats all AI Studio usage as private if there’s at least one API project with billing enabled in an account.
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Yes. I haven't had problems with the output limit so far, as I do translations iteratively, over each section of longer texts. What I like the most about translating with Gemini is that its default performance is already good enough, a
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My complaint is that any data within AI Studio can be kept by Google and used for training purposes — even if using the paid tier of the API, as far as I know. Because of that, I end up only using it rarely, when I don’t care about the fate
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The models in the Gemini app are nerfed in comparison to those in AI Studio: they have less thinking budget, output less tokens, and have various safety filters. There’s certainly a trade-off between using AI Studio for its better performan
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In my experience, Gemini 2.5 Pro really shines in some non-coding use cases such as translation and summarization via Canvas. The gigantic context window and large usage limits help in this regard. I also believe Gemini is much better than
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1y ago
I recommend 1Blocker, it’s actively maintained and pretty good. However, if you’re not a grandfathered user like me, it does come with a small price.
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1y ago
In my experience, o4-mini has been fast and accurate enough for most use cases. If needed, I use o4-mini-high. I just bother to use o3 when there’s a gnarly issue to solve and I can wait its long response times.
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Can you share what are the main challenges OpenAI has been facing in terms of increasing access to top-tier and non-lazy models?
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Most certainly. I’m all in favor of more regulation for both AI and SEO sectors, in order to deal with these ethical dilemmas.
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I don’t think that’s bizarre at all, there’s a clear financial incentive for things to be this way. Apple can’t have normal people sharing a single device instead of buying one for each.
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> injects hidden prompts to influence AI outputs Have you not thought about how unethical this is?
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"We Are Not Prompts " [video]
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