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I also found this thread very interesting, and then I got here and thought I recognized your username. Turns out you asked to try the alpha of my own tool Cicerone ( http://cicerone.co ). Hi! Cicerone doesn't yet do the kind
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> For one there is no software tool that can let someone visually move elements around and still produce reasonable CSS. Indeed. CSS was never designed to be worked with in a visual design tool. There are so many intricacies in its rules
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Yes I have EdgeHTML16 and my grid-based sites look good.
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Hmm, I'd like to like this, but it appears you're just getting computed style. But "computed" !== "used". To get the actual used font you can get it in dev tools. Explanation here: https://developers
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That's a great use case and I could really use that right now. Now if retro clip could also record keystrokes* and mouse clicks that could be even more helpful. * OK, maybe keystrokes is a security issue? Not sure.
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Intrigued by the title but getting 502 Bad Gateway.
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Exactly. A common adage in the aerospace world is that it's not aerodynamics that makes airplanes fly, it's money. Same thing here. The only way NASA is going anywhere outside LEO is with a commitment by congress to spend gobs and
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I get it, thank-you.
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> Making CRDTs consequence-free is ongoing research. What do you mean by that? I found possibly related language on this page the other day [0]: CRDTs are "[t]ypically not suited for editing application with consequent UI." Can
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Ditto. Show me the goods before you start making me do work (filling forms). However it may be an MVP. Has anybody bothered going through the process to the end?
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Yes this is true. Such a system would not be accessible. Not cool.
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How interesting! My tabet comes with a pen, and my new Windows laptop does too. Tried it with the tablet and it worked well. Maybe there is something there? At the very least it would drive the screen scrapers nuts!
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There are a bunch of bugs in their tracker for vue: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issues/WEB?q=vue So I figure it'll get fixed some day... probably after I move to another framework.
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Thanks, I appreciate your help.
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> Do you happen to have a repo I can clone to reproduce the problem? I'm interested in fixing that. Yeah for a repro you just just need to do this: https://imgur.com/a/N2S2r And you can see the warning when you
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Yes I am using this PostCSS plugin: https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/8578-postcss-support But it's flawed. PostCSS is itself a host for plugins. So a WebStorm PostCSS plugin would need to allow user to select
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My problem is more with CSS and template support. Here is Webstorm complaining about in a legit Vue v-for statement in a .vue single-page component. And second image is what it does when I try to use PostCSS variables. https://im
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I like Webstorm, it's my primary dev environment. But I can not praise its abilities as you do. My experience has been mixed. Sure it's cool when it works well, but then its bugs are all the more painful. You expect intelligence a
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I don't know the answer, but I'd be surprised if it did. I've also been very frustrated by CSS due to 1) its lack warnings and debug errors as mentioned above, and 2) that so many properties have side-effects (like setting an
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Are those snips supposed to be syntax-highlighted? Because they are black on grey as I see them, just FYI.
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CSS is so weird. On one hand people can do absurdly amazing things like this, and on the other I am sitting here trying to line up baselines of two text elements that are in different parts of the layout and I want to just throw my computer
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Thanks! Yes I think there are bunch of us trying to rethink rich editors (for example: all the block-based editors, prosemirror, WP's Gutenberg, etc...)
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There is a similarity with React (and Vue, etc...) in that it's based on the idea of components. But the similarity ends there (and the project is not based on React). The core capability is to interact with your page directly as you b
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Like many others I got the idea because of an itch I had with work. I run a small SaaS and I found myself constantly creating and updating HTML pages of various types: help and documentation for users, landing pages, product description, in
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A lot of these things are solved, or at least there is a tremendous amount of experience to draw from now. It's more a problem of packaging the different pieces together into a cohesive system.
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> But every proposed replacement for CSS I've seen (e.g. Cassowary) has made the complexity problem worse. Hi, what other proposed replacements for CSS do you know about? I'm interested in seeing what problems they ran into. I
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I use the DrawExpress app for exactly that. It's brilliant. http://www.drawexpress.com/
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Or be forced to pay for v2 because you upgraded your OS and now v1 doesn't work anymore.
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I keep hearing about Blender's UI. What's the deal with that? I see all sorts of things in that screenshot but I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Is there a good description of the UI somewhere for those interested in UIs
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> and (soon) Flex Grids If you mean CSS Grid, and you can afford to target only modern browsers (with usable fallback CSS for the others) then you're good to go right now. Even Edge is working on bringing their implementation up to
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