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11mo ago
Yep, we are BY FAR the fastest signal approach and built in. Datastar is just a set of tools to ture data-* attributes into fine grain reactive expressions. Everything else is a plugin.
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11mo ago
Cool effort, but to say this is like Datastar is a stretch at best.
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11mo ago
Just Datastar and my new WC framework (which is 6kb). Was the shortest, valid HTML, no build step https://gist.github.com/delaneyj/8c55b6a9768a38c873750afdebd... Backbone was a pain as you make more, React is a husk o
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1y ago
> A guy told me that they were told to defend the project. Might be nice if you can back that up. I see no drshapeless in our Discord logs. > he only nice thing I got from them was an alternative method to imitate replace-url functio
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1y ago
You think Datastar CEO is nothing beyond a joke. Oh I get it now, you have literally no idea about this space at all and are just a karma tourist farming for troll points. Sorry to feed you! Was hoping you'd actually engage with the
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1y ago
I'm the CEO of literally nothing. You clearly do understand anything about this space. I looked through your comments and your behavior and lack of positive dialogue on literally any subject is telling. I'm the same person all
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1y ago
I get the trolly natural of your response. But please point at anywhere in that five hours any of this about me. What do I get out of this beyond pushing hypermedia forward? Whoever you are mad at it is not me and I hope you can find pea
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1y ago
Oh don't worry, it's made it much less likely that I never develop in the open ever again
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1y ago
We tell people to show code and to prove their positions instead of asserting them blindly. If you got pushback it's 100% because of that
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1y ago
care to become the community manager for Datastar?
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1y ago
You are very very right, I guess my real problem is I don't care what they say behind stuff that is a straight out lie. Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what they cheer for. I'll push back a bit in that I'm still
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1y ago
Our community is fine, all this is coming from people so far that haven't actually used Datastar on project at any kind of scale. If this is not the case please show your code and how it effected you directly. Otherwise, it's fa
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1y ago
I am not nice, but I do care... https://youtu.be/y79L3fhJI3o?t=8054
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1y ago
to be clear, the pro plugin versions ARE NEW IMPLEMENTATIONS. they are not just old code now behind a paywall.
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1y ago
https://youtu.be/y79L3fhJI3o?t=8054 if you want to understand my feeling or approach.
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1y ago
as always, my issue is never with how you spend your time. you are a giver of gifts and I wish more people that relied on HTMX stepped up to make it better. in no way should anything be expected of you. How you spend your time is obvious
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1y ago
The irony is I mirror people's response. The only way to stay sane is to not take yourself seriously. The flagged comments that people take offense are South Park quotes. The general tone police is what is being railed against. Ope
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1y ago
Our Discord is generally a friendly place, but not the nicest. If you can't backup your ideas or defend your code with metrics you are gonna have a bad time. We help those that help yourself. IIRC you were forcefully tell how things
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1y ago
1980s yuppies bred counter culture punks. Time is a flat circle.
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1y ago
Sorry to hear that man. It does really sour the ideas of the MIT license especially. It's a social problem and won't be solved by tech. My response now is a pretty hard line, cool... then fork it. Anything softer doesn't
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1y ago
Thank you so much! The core team does realize there is a silent majority that doesn't get involved in the drama. Sorry you had to make an account to say that. We really do appreciate it!
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1y ago
Ironically Non-profits have to show profits. We don't particularly want devs money as much as Teams/Enterprise to pay for tooling. Inspector make life easier and more stuff (like Stellar is in route).
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1y ago
Datastar author here. I'd really have rather it be about the tech or perf numbers. We pride ourselves on being fast and simple to a silly degree. The drama seems to be about anything but the underlying implementation. It makes me s
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1y ago
You keep accusing me of something that's a lie. Rhetoric indeed
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1y ago
Yes, issues that are years old show me the commitment level. Not a knock against HTMX but a clear sign of priorities. Carson is free to meme all day and talk about other projects. It's very clear where he stands and that's fine
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1y ago
it's really a full stack back end agnostic framework. i haven't really seen anything like it.
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1y ago
happy to abide, didn't read the guidelines so sorry about that @dang. yes it's quite interesting that we are getting slammed for making plugins in a way that literally any user has access to do own their own. hackernews is a wil
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1y ago
Datastar is 40% smaller than HTMX even before you add SSE or Alpine or JS head support, etc.
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1y ago
NOTHING changed about the license. FUD
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1y ago
that's just not true, the current ones are a complete rewrite. Use the old way to your heart's content. It's MIT
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