saizai

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by saizai 6y ago
I've now made a Slack for it: unlws.slack.com. Invite link: https://join.slack.com/t/ulws/shared_invite/zt-ewevpfmf-s1r3...
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by saizai 6y ago
There is now: https://join.slack.com/t/ulws/shared_invite/zt-ewevpfmf-s1r3...
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by saizai 6y ago
Thanks! People are complex. It's my personal site, not a topical one, so it likewise has on it basically whatever I think would be interesting to put up. ;) I'd welcome any feedback you have on the rest. Feel free to contact me di
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by saizai 6y ago
We have absolutely no interest in wide-scale usage, let alone if it were to come at the expense of fully exploring what a natively-2D language is like. Narrative is an utterly different thing in UNLWS. We simply do not have "stories&
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by saizai 6y ago
I have two concerns with that, above the (major) technical challenges: 1. we wanted this to be writable using colored pens 2. if we add a dimension, we must add it for real. #2 is to me the vastly harder problem. Just like in UNLWS, we alw
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by saizai 6y ago
I believe that *Pad¹ does what you describe. In multi-user mode, it has an option to show each contributor's writing in a separate color. (I'm not sure if one can pick the color, though.) ¹ eg https://cryptpad.piratenpa
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by saizai 6y ago
PS I really like the garden vs stream metaphor for UNLWS-native "conversation". I agree that it's very apt. It nicely captures the spirit of non-linear interaction. Thank you for this new way of looking at / describing i
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by saizai 6y ago
Interesting. I've long been interested in ways to make systems more pro-social, but I hadn't previously thought of UNLWS in that context. Thank you for giving me a new idea to mull.
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by saizai 6y ago
Thanks for reporting the broken link. Alex has fixed it in the document. The content is now at https://000024.org/conlang/relay19/index.html Google "conlang relay" to learn more about the context for whi
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by saizai 6y ago
Another way to express the latter is that if something becomes too popular, upper socioeconomic classes will want to adopt something else, so that they can preserve a class distinction of "higher register" speech. Meanwhile, lower
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by saizai 6y ago
Can we even distinguish those in practice? AFAICT its main problem was being so general-purpose that it was hard to describe as a compelling use case. Of course, I also don't subscribe to the belief that the popularity or memetic prowe
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by saizai 6y ago
D'aww. /blush
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by saizai 6y ago
That seems to me to be more like multithreaded linear than non-linear per se. There are multiple linear components, and it's not obvious how they emergently interact — but they don't quite have the interconnectedness and non-direc
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by saizai 6y ago
Actually IIRC, that was our inspiration for it. ;)
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by saizai 6y ago
You're describing Google Wave¹, which (sadly) was killed as unsuccessful. ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wave
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by saizai 6y ago
… or because of pure happenstance, i.e. it just didn't come up? Extant natural languages (including dead ones) do not come anywhere close to coming the entire ambit of what could happen in a language. My interest as a conlanger is pr
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by saizai 6y ago
FWIW, we deliberately decided to have no phonetic representation at all, to avoid any linearizing influence. Yes, it would need a large number of glyphs. Not so many as speculated above, though — e.g. we have one glyph that covers communica
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by saizai 6y ago
Anguilla permits them. I had to buy off a squatter. But Sai is literally my full name (I'm mononymous), at the time it was affordable to buy off the squatter, and the per year registration fee isn't too high. So I think it's
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by saizai 6y ago
Not really. Programming is very linear in all forms I know¹. 1. There's a start point. UNLWS has none. 2. There's a mandatory canonical traversal order of the text (the compiled instruction pointer, at base). UNLWS has none. 3. St
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by saizai 6y ago
UNLWS can definitely be described as being based on "predicate calculus" (as in formal logic). I personally have never felt it to be a very apt or helpful description — I think of it more in terms of Lakoff-style "frames&quot
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by saizai 6y ago
Could you elaborate? How do you see this as relating to NLP? FWIW, I very strongly recommend Rick Morneau's monograph Lexical semantics of a machine translation interlingua ¹. It was a major influence for me, and is squarely intended
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by saizai 6y ago
Yes, we're still working on it. (E.g. we were discussing the concept "only" a couple days ago.) Right now, our main blocker is technical: we want a JavaScript based method for rendering it from a DSL, because making, loading,
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by saizai 6y ago
Tracking: if you're asking a question or otherwise anticipating where the other will add, there are relatively few places to look. Also, we use different colors per author in multi-author utterances, which makes it easy to spot another
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by saizai 6y ago
See also Ouwi¹ by Schuyler Duveen, which is one of the very few other non-linear written languages. It takes a somewhat different approach, and (IIRC) has some examples of conversational output. (Ouwi & UNLWS were developed without eith
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by saizai 6y ago
Part of the inspiration for UNLWS was Heptapod B from Ted Chiang's Story of Your Life , from which Arrival was made. See also my essays Non-Linear Fully Two-Dimensional Writing System Design ¹ and On the design of an ideal langua
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by saizai 6y ago
I'm Sai, co-creator of UNLWS. AMA(relevant).
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by saizai 10y ago
Jake's response: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1soorlp /via https://twitter.com/ioerror/status/739731362404536320 I note that he does not deny any of Nick's factual claims.
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by saizai 10y ago
See http://conlang.org/axanar/#press for more articles on it. (Will update soon for stuff that came out over the weekend.)
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by saizai 10y ago
That's very neat. Could you email me (eg press@conlang.org) so we can collaborate / keep updated?
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by saizai 10y ago
I think it would be grossly inappropriate for me to comment either way on an issue about our counsel, especially one that he disputes. What I can say is that he is a brilliant First Amendment lawyer and we are very satisfied with his servic

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