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ryanklee
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That doesn't render it useless. It means that citations are have additional utility. Further, LLMs do not only spit quotes. They engage in analytic and synthetic knowledge.
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ryanklee
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> societal impact of AI is weighed fairly It's doubtful that the courts are going to accomplish anything so broad. And the media is unlikely to accomplish anything so nuanced.
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ryanklee
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That was the whole statement. It doesn't have qualifiers left out
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ryanklee
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> useless if it can't directly quote its sources. Why
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ryanklee
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The commenter's point is that History as an academic discipline organized by institutions is part of the humanities departments. It's not a deeper point. Of course science has its own history and that history is examined (sometime
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ryanklee
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> if philosophy can't take It's got nothing to do with what philosophy can't take. The context of this conversation: science is not self-sufficient to be a force for good in this world without the aid of the humanities. Sc
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ryanklee
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Those are his words. They are not out of context. I don't see how any of that negates the effect of one of science's pre-eminent public advocates bad mouthing philosophy and the humanities. People hear this and take it at face val
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ryanklee
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That makes sense. No disagreement there. Thank you for clarifying your position.
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ryanklee
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He is referencing the field of History, not history.
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And you think that those individuals are representative of the value of the field of humanities? Sorry, but that's just a red herring. I mean, I'm suspicious of individuals who can't hack it in general, too, but not sure how
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Sure. Please tell me how I can possibly read this interview in any other way than NDT doesn't see the value in philosophy: https://scientiasalon.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/neil-degrasse... As far as I can
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> the humanities did plenty to devalue itself, by adopting the view that 'value' itself is likely a social construct. The humanities is not a monolith. If you ask a philosopher in the analytic tradition, which is the tradition
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ryanklee
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This is not correct. See my comment with numerous citations.
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1. Tyson dismissed the intellectual value of philosophy in a podcast, which led to criticism from those within the discipline[1]. 2. He has been quoted saying, "What they teach in the humanities is not 'skepticism' or 'c
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> humanities got taken over in some sense and filled with mumbo jumbo This is exactly the kind of opinion that results from improper familiarization with the various sub-fields of the humanities. Is there bullshit? Yes. Is it typical? Ab
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This is not correct. This attitude was nurtured by science's most successful public mouthpieces. Stephen Hawking and Neal Degrasse Tyson have been running around for decades telling everyone that the humanities are worthless. Young stu
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I think you are putting words in GP's mouth. They never said anything about avoiding learning formal logic or math. The context of that statement was a sarcastic position.
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Absolutely agreed. I find it embarrassing how STEM devalued non-STEM studies for years, and now that LLMs are center stage, so is the near-universal unpreparedness of interested parties and stakeholders to wrestle with issues of cognition,
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That's such a silly standard of success to think that one must be entered into the Western cannon to be considered successful. The number of authors that have made good money writing books far, far exceeds, by many orders of magnitude,
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ryanklee
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Again, you seem very intent on misreading very clear statements. I never claimed that what he did with Twitter is problematic (though it's very problematic), I said it raises the visibility of his behaviors.
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ryanklee
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Objecting to someone's retrograde ethics is not resentiment. People in power ought to understand the world better than Musk does. His ethical and intellectual facility is inverse to his net worth. It's ridiculous and horrifying th
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Of course I was aware. I've been of the opinion that Musk is a piece of shit since 2015. My point, which I stated very clearly and which you have chosen to ignore despite explicitly being pointed to it by the other poster, is that his
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Get what partially figured out? We are nowhere close to understanding how human cognitive processes are constituted. We are farther away from that than we are from AGI. These are not interdependent enterprises.
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> simulate human-like thought processes It ought to be clear to a cognitive scientist (which the author is) that we do not know how human thought processes work except at a very course level. The idea that we have an understanding refine
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ryanklee
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Related, from yesterday https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38864958
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1. Accused of promoting the debunked "Pizzagate" conspiracy theory[1]. 2. Violated the social contract with employees, investors, suppliers, and regulators[2]. 3. Fired SpaceX employees for criticizing his behavior[3]. 4. Alleged
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I don't know that we lost much; Twitter is was hugely problematic before Musk arrived. (The problems are not native to Twitter, but hip-shot social media in general.) What we gained, though, is better visibility on one of the most toxi
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Yeah, I doubt it does anything close to what I'm talking about. If it did, it would be a massive leap forward in integration. More likely, the button opens up Copilot side-bar and only takes text input. But we shall see. Maybe some RAG
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I'm addressing your particular point about not seeing any use for this in the OS. I disagree. If there is a flexible layer that can consume and correlate context, there are tons of use cases
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> I can't for the life of me think of a reason I'd need an AI to do any of the stuff I use my desktop OS for. If the key can flexibly consume whatever content is in the current context -- images, audio, text, selectable files
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