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by rhaksw 4y ago
Your replies aren't harsh they're just off topic, and I think you're trolling me for laughs, trying to get me or someone else mixed up. For example, > As you've stated in this thread, an involuntary contract between t
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Not yet! I don't think there would be any basis for it. The site is all code. Data comes from Pushshift and Reddit, and even Pushshift hasn't had any trouble as far as I know. On top of that, legal action might draw more attention
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> I think the issue here is that you’re blurring your complaints between the two quite distinct issues of heavy-handed moderation, and shadow moderation. You’re talking about having a philosophical or principled issue with shadow moderat
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> Not at all. For the same reason that heart surgery isn’t. Or black belt karate isn’t. Some human activities just have high skill floors. Science (at the levels we are talking about here - groundbreaking hard to understand complex stuff
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> If moderation isn’t silent then r/silence becomes “r/hey why has my comment been moderated, this is bullshit”. Same result as not moderating - The conversation about science gets diluted by the noise people lacking the basic
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> On my phone, the link to the CantSayAnything/About/Sticky page goes to a 404. Try this, https://www.reddit.com/r/CantSayAnything/comments/xwvbsy/wri... > I thought Kelly Cotters paper w
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> I was a mod, this tool is the worst from a mod's perspective. In a sub with 100k-200k people, I would spend all my time telling users why I took action. Instead I take action when content breaks rules, and it's your responsib
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You must be trolling, haha, there was more to my quote! We do throw criminals in jail, the point was we don't do it without making a public record of how and why. That was an analogy that you've taken completely out of context and
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Check out this talk from Jonathan Rauch [1]. He goes through how both the left and right censor, and how that ends up being good for nobody, even if it starts out happening only in the private sector. [1] https://www.youtube.com&
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"There are youth speaking out" should not be taken to mean "all youth". It means "some youth". It's another point of view on an issue that I'd only previously seen presented from one perspective. That
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> It took a long time for you to get around to it, but was the reason your comments keep getting moderated because you show up in every gender / transgender thread dropping links and "just asking questions"? No, this is on
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> I find it a little sad that in order to disagree with me you have to be mean about it. I didn't find what was written to be mean. Eleanor Roosevelt said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." If you
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> it is definitely better than “opening the gates and letting everyone in”. Letting users discover when their content is removed is not "letting everyone in". You can have both moderation and transparency. They're not mutu
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> Can we agree that hundreds of meme posts and hundreds of "That's what she said" posts are not helpful? The dispute here is secret moderation, not what content gets removed. If moderation were transparent, users would a
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No, it's just hard to advertise them. Groups often offshoot specifically because they disagreed with moderators of the previous group. The new group will want to attract users from the old group, but the old group's moderators set
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Moderation is fine, but what about secret moderation? The issue here is that users are being shown their removed comments as if they are publicly visible . I share my thoughts on the impact at 19:54 [1] in the video linked in this post
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> No, it really is not. Forgive me, I live in Taiwan and in this region "democracy" can sometimes be colloquially equated with "free speech", perhaps because the two concepts seem distant to some stricter regimes. You
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That's nothing. There are far more powerful removal tools than automoderator these days, and that was already very dystopian itself. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/reveddit/comments/sxpk15/fyi_my_tho.
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> Is there option for preapproving/hiding comments from new users in a subreddit? Yes, I mention this in the talk at 14:50 [1]. A year ago Reddit upgraded its "Crowd Control", which once only collapsed comments from new us
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> We experienced that too, at a much higher rate. Mods would get blamed for deletions AutoMod would do. Turned into quite a shitshow. Sorry, how are mods not responsible for the bot they coded? Or, are you saying users were attributing t
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> As far as I know this is not a feature Reddit officially provides No, it's provided by Reddit and is in the docs, > With a bot ban, some users won't realize they've been banned. [1] There are several more dystopian
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> Subs cannot "shadowban" users themselves. They can. It's now called a "bot ban" and used to be called a shadow ban. It's done by adding a user's name to the sub's Automoderator configuration. &gt
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It's narrower than you might think. For example, I've recently been paying attention to the trans issue because some are saying that pro-trans groups are equating words with violence [1] [2]. Apparently the pro-trans groups have b
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> Why bother though? See 18:20 [1] and 19:52 [2] in the talk linked on this post. Nobody will visit r/scienceforall because r/science will remove references to it. Plus, forcing me to set up a group doesn't sound like a so
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> The problem is the unauditable censorship. It's not even that. The biggest problem is more basic, that authors themselves are shown their removed content as if it's not removed! You can see that in action here [1]. It&#x2
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But then you don't get the slides which sync with the video :)
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> science is not democratic I strongly disagree, it's inherently democratic. The scientific method is all about making mistakes and trying again. Discourse is all about sharing knowledge. Open societies do this effectively. Jonathan
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> I can see how shadowbanning ("bot-bans")is effective against bot accounts, since it's less trivial for a bot maker to write code that detects when their bot has been detected, resulting in a lower rate of new bot account
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> It is a scary reality that I think the average person would be strongly against if they were aware of it. That makes it easy to support raising awareness about it, which isn't scary at all. > I would go so far as to say there s
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> teddit right now does have reveddit integrated. Oh I see, they link it from the [deleted] author name instead of the [removed] content. That's an odd choice. > Could the reddit tracker be proxied from reveddit's end teddit

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