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rglullis
8mo ago
> They found a way to offer a discount for some of that cost, providing even greater value, but it has a condition which is possibly directly connected to their ability to provide that discount. That is a lie. It's the excuse they
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8mo ago
> as the market is loaded with LLM service providers The LLMs are not commodities. The program that interfaces with them are. > they aren't intended for public use. It was available at first, it made possible for people to use
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8mo ago
> n any case, the point is it's not tying; you're free to choose any combination of products. These products can function independently, and the acquisition at a heavy discouont for one of them is conditional on the acquisition
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8mo ago
> that agreement is there, with the condition that their app is used. And setting this condition is what constitutes a tie-in sale. > if one has to go to extraordinary lengths to gain access BS! Sorry, there is nothing extraordinar
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8mo ago
Try not making it sound like the company is doing me a favor by letting me access the thing I was paying for. I wasn't "invited to a party", I was sold on an agreement that by paying a guaranteed monthly fee I could have acce
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8mo ago
> They give users 2 choices: a) use their service via their public API, with the client(s) of their choice, at the regular price point; b) use the apps they provide, which use a private API, at a discounted price point. There was a thir
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8mo ago
> I don't understand why people should expect companies to provide things exactly the way they want at exactly the prices they would like to be charged This is a gross misrepresentation of my argument. I wouldn't be complaining
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8mo ago
> but the pricing is different because the price of claude.ai and Claude Code includes the API charges they incur. If that was true, then getting equivalent usage of the API without claude.ai and Claude Code should cost less , not mo
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8mo ago
> But that's not a product that they're offering Of course it was. - It was possible to do it. - OpenCode did not break any security protocol in order to integrate with them. - OAuth is *precisely* a system to let thir
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8mo ago
> What law is actually being broken in Brazil? "Tie-in sale": the business practice where a seller conditions the sale of one product (the tying good) on the buyer’s agreement to purchase a different product (the tied good). Th
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8mo ago
> in many cases what you are specifically paying for is the combination of the software and the service that are designed to work together And in many cases like Claude Code and the Anthropic models, they can and do work perfectly indepe
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8mo ago
> That does not make it illegal. "Both parties are okay with the terms" is far from being sufficient to make something "legal". Tie-in sales between software and services is not different from price dumping. If any of
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8mo ago
I am not asking for "complete" freedom, am I? Can you please argue in good faith and not resort to cheap rhetoric tricks?
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8mo ago
I absolutely have zero concerns about their cost to acquire new customers. As a (former) customer, all I am concerned is the freedom to consume the service I am paying for however I see fit.
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8mo ago
I just cancelled my Pro subscription. Turns out that Ollama Cloud with GLM-5 and qwen-coder-next are very close in quality to Opus, I never hit their rate limits even with two sessions running the whole day and there zero advantage for me t
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8mo ago
> But the entire reason it's subsidized is that Anthropic can use the data to improve their product. This is grade A, absolute crap. It's subsidized because everyone else is subsidizing it, and everyone is doing it because they
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8mo ago
> If they can provide a relatively cheap subscription against the direct API use Except they can't. Their costs are not magically lower when you use claude code vs when you use a third-party client. > For me, this is fair. This i
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8mo ago
> people rarely pay for increased performance. I wasn't using "Performance" in the sense of "how fast does it go?", but it the sense of "how well does it do what I need to do?" > Mozilla, Blender, Si
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8mo ago
Paying a premium for "luxury" makes sense for people looking status signaling or an unique experience. Software is (most of the time) an utility. People would be willing to pay for a premium when there is tangible performance impr
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> Which results in them making more Not necessarily . You are assuming that the people can consume whatever is put in front of them. Markets get saturated fast. The "changes in the industry" mean nothing.
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9mo ago
Oh, can we do Civilization next?
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9mo ago
It's not about the content, but the format and the economic pressure that corporations exert over everyone. If you want to distribute short videos on a website that let's you choose what you want after search and deliberately c
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9mo ago
The "subset of the population" is not small, and there is no easy way to protect the most vulnerable. > it's a wildly popular form of entertainment with millions of creators sharing their lives I don't think we should
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9mo ago
I'm going in the opposite direction: with each new model, the more I try to optimize my existing workflows by breaking the tasks down so that I can delegate tasks to the less powerful models and only rely on the newer ones if the resul
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9mo ago
> Commoditized fields are more competitive. Doesn't that also lead to the conclusion that "software engineers" are going to lose their ability to command high salaries, if the real value is in the domain expertise and not
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9mo ago
Sorry, but that logic is pure cope. If you want to go down the value chain, then by definition the less valuable the software is and the easier to be commoditized. The automation is not going to help just the manager-turned-vibecoder, it&
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9mo ago
What software engineers are being hired to work on: - A facilities management company - A bar/restaurant with a staff of 8 - An Architecture office - A Law Firm with 10 associates - A day care - A car repair
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> holding back industry from making something truly better and more reliable. What "industry"? If you are talking about the software industry, then I'd say you are creating a circular reasoning. If you are talking about al
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9mo ago
You are taking my comment way too literatlly. The point is not that people will be using specifically Excel, but that most business only pay for software because it is the tool that gives them the most power to automate their processes. T
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9mo ago
> AI-generated code still requires software engineers No, they don't. A domain expert armed with an Excel spreadsheet and the ability to write VBA macros will be enough for most business.
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