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10y ago
I m a greek idiot who doesnt own any houses. If i owned 4 i would certainly not consider myself middle-class.
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10y ago
big subject, and i m likely to start civil war with other greeks here. Certainly its better somewhere with an airport (preferably international). Salonica can be great, or some island. I am biased, but Crete is usually loved by visitors and
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10y ago
It is, but bit hard to parse: http://www.et.gr/index.php/82-2013-01-30-08-00-00/204-4500
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10y ago
Thats really a fringe case of some long-forgotten property in a no-construction zone. The solution is to disown the property. It's not a comparison of real price <> assessment
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10y ago
Hey we are not all shipping magnates! For a greek at this point, the taxes are extremely heavy, because you have to add mandatory insurance costs. The current govt. has chosen taxes instead of public sector cuts, so greece is bad for busine
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10y ago
Different perceptions - Greek market was and still largely is heavily regulated and closed. It will take many years for people to adapt to a free-er market. It doesn't help that government does not communicate it to people. For example
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10y ago
Olive oil has relatively good price and is very easily exportable. An olive grove is a profitable investment, unlike a house/flat. Also olive trees are very easy to cultivate, very durable and last for centuries! disagree strongly on
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10y ago
How many years ago? You might be experiencing the property boom - everything under construction with cheap loans from a careless ECB. It's not a way to dodge taxes. Many of those constructions were finished, others stayed halfway. What
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10y ago
> own 3 flats and 1 house > Seriously Rich people in Greece pay no tax and they don't care as well. Maybe you should realize your parents are the rich people.
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10y ago
> which might be 10x more than the actually market value (sometimes even 50x, not kidding Given that the values have been recently reassessed [2016], i would like to know where these 10x and 50x values are. Not disputing you, but curious
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10y ago
> Personally I would vote for revolution - national default, totally new political leadership A large part of our electorate thinks like that, and thus came Syriza (Syriza may be a household name, but not everyone knows that it stands fo
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10y ago
Well to be honest most of these houses were build in the past 3 decades from the parents so their children have a ready-made home for them. We had a property boom in greece that was fueled by dirt-cheap loans from easy ECB money. Now the l
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10y ago
Maybe it has to do with the nature of the subject. Nobody is gonna get hurt if they go offline for a few hours (unless blue balls count). And customers will keep coming back if the ... product is good. They might not be so careless with pay
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10y ago
Yes transactions costs are high in greece, but it's not what stopping people from buying. Prices are still too high. Rental yields do not justify buying at this time[1], even for newer constructions that are 100% legal. While the gover
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10y ago
Sure it is. Greece is still a very safe country with excellent climate. Avoid athens, the overcrowded center and heavily-hit by the crisis. You will find the cost of living is very cheap for a european country (provided that you have your o
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10y ago
Property is a bad investment in greece. Rental yields too low. Rent instead, it's dirt-cheap at the moment.
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10y ago
So your house price went from EUR10000 (optimistic) to EUR 500000 (actual price 8 years ago , nowadays ~40% cheaper). You're still property-rich. why are you complaining?
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10y ago
Not everyone is lucky to inherit a house. Houses are overpriced and out-of-reach for middle class incomes in Greece. We also pay exorbitant income taxes. Is that fair?
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10y ago
Or simply rent out the house?
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10y ago
You're not wrong. Greece experienced a property bubble that is bursting painfully slowly. Homeownership is high in greece; it's part of the culture and successive governments protected it despite its heavy cost as a populist measu
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It has become bad because greece basically did not have a property tax before 2011. The tax rate is not much higher than what is usual internationally. Given the very low rental yelds however, owning property may have become a bad deal. (
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10y ago
I would wager those are "normal" things, not good. When did hunger, poverty, death etc go up outside wars?
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10y ago
snapchat & blockchain(?) the rest (crispr, higgs, deep learning) are not even american, let alone obama-age
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> the constant churn of scientific progress. That is a relatively silly remark. Science and technology never go back, by definition. Not even after world wars. Economies can go back, or cultures.
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indeed, Calendar advancement is not progress.
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I guess this article is part of the democratic campaign, in which the obamas are the shining beacons. The US president may know better than anyone if his country is in its best state ever, but the rest of the world is not. My country greec
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Could Thiel be the first gay US president in a few years? BTW don't miss the ridiculous article [1] which basically says Thiel is not gay because he s not a liberal. 1. http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2016/
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10y ago
Twitter is basically reddit without subreddits.
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10y ago
Google+ in 140 characters. Hint the problem has been solved decades ago , called tree-like comments.
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10y ago
So higher supply will create higher demand?
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